Charlie Kirk Shot and killed

[McDad]

But unfortunately, there’s a segment of the population that believes it isn’t only right, but necessary.

How large is it? No idea but it seems like it’s getting bigger as time passes.

Let them believe it. It's more corrosive to their spirit than it is a danger to us.

 

[McDad]

I agree with that. But accept people’s opinions. Just because someone is getting through to kids, doesn’t mean he should be murdered.

Agreed.

 

[volfanhill]

I have a significant amount of rage inside me, too.

No one wants to hear about the time you got booted out of Golden Corral for abusing their "all you can eat policy" again. We get it. You were mad

 

[PEPPERJAX]

Oh BS.

You believe it’s “morally acceptable” to “do anything” to random, no-name ICE Agents.

Can’t imagine what you thought was “morally acceptable” to do the political figure you hold most responsible for the current discourse around illegal aliens.

Yeah
Kirk called illegal aliens invaders. Oh no!!!

 

[McDad]

So guns aren’t the problem?

Correct. Never have been.

 

[ETV]

based on the actions of a mentally ill person. You have no room to talk about humanity.

Are you referring to the Charlotte murder? If so, the audio file from the security camera clearly has him speaking "I killed that white woman".

Sounds race related to those paying attention.

 

[Volnanza]

It would be a unicorn Antifa member based on what I’ve seen. The ones I’ve seen over the years don’t even know how to throw rocks

Because you are ignorant of their existence, you don't think they exist. I've seen many videos of them hitting the gun ranges talking about doing stuff just like this. To them, anyone who is not a rabid liberal is Hitler.

 

[CobbWebb71]

If you look at our rates of violent crime, we're actually getting safer.

What we're experiencing is that the smallest minds have the biggest megaphones.

What we’re experiencing is the fallout from closing the “horrible” mental institutions and just turning people loose into society, many with no homes, and no mental capacity to care for themselves or think rationally.
But those evil mental institutions though...

 

[McDad]

No one wants to hear about the time you got booted out of Golden Corral for abusing their "all you can eat policy" again. We get it. You were mad

Big mad. Bobbing for donuts in their chocolate fountain is not strictly forbidden in their terms of conduct.

 

[Vol8188]

I wish you guys got this worked up over school shootings, maybe something would change.

Perhaps if you stopped calling for political change in response to political violence, the violence would cease.

It’s a logical thought, so I don’t anticipate you’ll understand

 

[Voltrapnbama]

None of us deserve murder. Being killed for words or ideas is a bridge too far.

So, why do we have to have an emotional connection to be upset about it?

 

[volbound1700]

Some of you people are sick!!
It’s almost as if you are defending this?
This thread reminds me of how stupidly and sheepishly people will blindly follow politics, right to the edge and over the cliff.
How disgusting some of you are and I don’t care if you’re democrat, republican or of this “offends” you.
People get murdered and it’s left wing this, right wing that...
Some of you need to step away from the political BS for a minute and actually try to become human again and have some damn sympathy for your fellow man, politics be damned!

Sadly, it has always been that way. US Politicians and Speakers have been assassinated since the 1700s. It has been pretty common throughout history. It was almost a daily occurrence in the Roman Republic and the political parties in their time even raised armies and killed each other in battle.
Of course, there is always a strong man that eventually steps in to stop them (Augustus for Rome, Stalin for Russia, Oliver Cromwell for England, etc.). We may one day follow that course.

 

[marcusluvsvols]

I wouldn't compare this to MLKjr but will add that some of what MLKjr advocated; particularly content of character instead of color of skin is directly contrasted to the orthodoxy of intersectionality and it's foundations in DEI philosophies. IOW, he was saying things that quite a few on the left would find highly objectionable and they may not consider that fighting for equality.

Yep. He was also a former preacher and therefore believed the Bible. There goes gay stuff, "trans" stuff, and abortion at a minimum. The modern Left would absolutely villify MLK and label him an "uncle Tom" and "right wing extremist" full of "hate speech". MLK would definitely be a Republican in 2025 if only for a lack of better choices. The Democrats would HATE HIM though just like Dr. Ben Carson.

 

[McDad]

What we’re experiencing is the fallout from closing the “horrible” mental institutions and just turning people loose into society, many with no homes, and no mental capacity to care for themselves or think rationally.
But those evil mental institutions though...

I agree to a point.

The mental institution in middle tennessee was closed due to horrible abuse (mental, physical, sexual) of the patients by staff.

 

[CobbWebb71]

Race wars? What race war or wars?

I am a white man with 2 black sisters. I promise you that none of us are at war with ANYONE of this world or country. I don't even know of anyone in a "race war". Because it doesn't exist.

TURN OFF the Leftist Media. Do not believe the lies on ABC,NBC, CBS, CNN or even FOX. FOX has never said there was a race war in the US...but they do lie also. Turn that crap off. Get to know REAL people around you. They arent at war with ANYONE unless deployed over seas in the military. Give God a chance. Go to Church man. God is LOVE.

I will pray that you see the truth and tune out the lies. God bless you and yours

This guy gets it, and he luvs the Vols...good guy in my book.

 

[dalton_vol]

Correct. Never have been.

Absolutely, we've had guns for centuries but we have not seen this level of violence.

 

[K-town Vol Fan]

Perhaps if you stopped calling for political change in response to political violence, the violence would cease.

It’s a logical thought, so I don’t anticipate you’ll understand

Yes, I alone can stop the violence from my couch.

 

[RDU VOL#14]

Kirk has lots of videos on youtube. Watch some. He was using his free speech rights to engage in civil exchanges. What he did was the SOLUTION- free exchange of ideals.

He was killed because his speech offended leftist ideas.

Someone asked why this was bothering people so much. This bothers me because Charlie didn’t hold office, he didn’t make policy. He engaged people on college campuses in a way that allowed for the market place of ideas . I think that his ideas bothered some, but I also think that there’s nothing wrong with the idea of being rooted in your family and having faith. Those are things that when executed make the world a better place. I have 2 small children, knowing that 2 small kids lost their father and a wife lost her husband bc of words is pathetic . Only words. Not retribution for actions that killed innocent civilians in a far away part of the world, but words that shared his views on how he lived. I don’t know who or what the equivalent on the left is, but I would have the same feelings towards them if the situation was reversed . There is no place for the actions today.

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

Here we go .... fat boy governor blames the Charlie Kirk shooting on Trump.

 

[McDad]

So, why do we have to have an emotional connection to be upset about it?

You don't. No one needs an emotional connection.
I made an assumption of hyper-emotionalism due the the pace and number of thread posts.

 

[volbound1700]

Absolutely, we've had guns for centuries but we have not seen this level of violence.

Humanity has been more peaceful sine 1950 than prior. 1940s you had this event that was the most deadly event in Human history. You also had another big event just 20 years before that.

 

[McDad]

Absolutely, we've had guns for centuries but we have not seen this level of violence.

Correct. It has been much worse

 

[n_huffhines]

I've got a lot of hate in my heart, and there are indeed some who i would celebrate their deaths. But not like this. Not political ********.

There isn't anyone on this forum i hold any hate for, and though I might think this person or that person is an idiot, I like most everyone here in a we're all vols {even lg (you cant be here this long if you aint in the vols closet)}

I left Tennessee a decade ago for the Mid-Atlantic and this forum is kind of like my Mayberry, making me feel some connection still to where I was born. The political climate here kinda stinks bad enough(I dont mean its too far left or too far right, I mean its just so much finger pointing and link spamming and "these people here are always bad"!) that sometimes I consider leaving, but football season starts and it always brings me back.

I did not like Kirk, but my heart sank today for America and for his family. This is not good at all. He didn't deserve it.

But if people in this thread are going to use his death to condemn how the left approaches discourse, then we have to have an honest conversation about Kirk, too. And nobody should ever confuse this for the idea that "he deserved it."

 

[Smokey123]

Not to be callous towards the man, but why do so many of you feel an emotional connection to Charlie or his murder?

For me personally; I’ve watched him for years not necessarily because I liked him or what he says but because of what he stood for. Open dialogue with people you disagree with, we’ve seen the dehumanizing and villainizing of people for a long time simply because they have different views and as a result we’re seeing people killed for it. 2 kids will grow up without a father because someone didn’t like his politics

That’s the main reason, but I also (sadly) watched the video and it made me sick to my stomach. My brother also used to work for TPUSA. We have to get to the root of the issue but this will only make things worse

 

[n_huffhines]

Are you referring to the Charlotte murder? If so, the audio file from the security camera clearly has him speaking "I killed that white woman".

Sounds race related to those paying attention.

Hey, thanks for interjecting. I said TT's trying to start a race war over the actions of a mentally ill person. Which part of that is refuted by the idea that the guys said, "I killed a white woman?"