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hjeagle1vol said:
As I said you are stupid. So you can’t understand 30% efficiency on a product 😂 what a maroon…
So if your car only works 2.5 days a week you couldn’t understand efficiency.
Please tell us from you wise experience in the field about the reliability and efficiency of solar and why it’s only 30%.

Ok damn I feel sorry for you I’ll tell you why…heat. Maybe you can figure it out from there. Tell us whether you’d use micro inverters and run in parallel or whether it’s be better to just run serial straight to the meter? Does a meter accept DC yes or no? Again you don’t know 💩 other than what you’ve been fed by the experts to believe. It’s the same with your political beliefs.
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You're just full of maga hate and make no sense at all.
 
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swampfoxfan said:
You're just full of maga hate and make no sense at all.
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If MAGA is hate stupid people than you got me. You’re a dumbass that knows nothing about ecological energy trying to play. Go ahead and answer my questions above about how you set up your system and paid for it 6 months 😂
Go to Abingdon and ask all them liberal green scam idiots that invested even when it was subsidized how quickly or actually are still paying for their systems.
 
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swampfoxfan said:
My understanding is the government offers a 30% tax credit. What other funding are you speaking of?

Maybe you can explain hjeagle 30% efficiency, I mean 30% of what?
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For individuals, yeah, it starts at 30%

Since we were talking about large wind/solar farms, most of the time, these are getting one of the kickers from IRA that will bump it up to 40% or more. Layer on state incentive, favorable depreciation writeoff, and the amount the govt subsidizes gets large pretty quickly

My theory is this subsidization places more emphasis on production than innovation. Just think that hurts price and efficiency....
 
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hjeagle1vol said:
If MAGA is hate stupid people than you got me. You’re a dumbass that knows nothing about ecological energy trying to play. Go ahead and answer my questions above about how you set up your system and paid for it 6 months 😂
Go to Abingdon and ask all them liberal green scam idiots that invested even when it was subsidized how quickly or actually are still paying for their systems.
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You'll have to learn how to construct a sentence and ask a sensible question.
 
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hog88 said:
If the govt wants to push solar they should incentivize small scale projects, homes and businesses.
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They did in Tennessee and the TVA’s 5 yr experiment produced fail after fail…especially wind. Solar with battery backup is the only way it comes close to working unless you own acres of panels and sell it back to the market without any other overhead. Just panels covering green fields perfectly SW positioned for optimal sun.

Go ahead and run to the solar calculators and run a test at .$10pkwh on a $50k residential solar project. I’ll tell you the answer 12-15 yrs ROI with subsidy. I lived it and I know firsthand.
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
For individuals, yeah, it 30%

My theory is this subsidization places more emphasis on production than innovation. Just think that hurts price and efficiency....
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Actually it has nothing to do with commercial or residential on efficiency. The panels can only operate at 30% because of heat produced. Turn them up and burn it all down.
 
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swampfoxfan said:
You'll have to learn how to construct a sentence and ask a sensible question.
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As I said you’re stupid and can’t play in the deep end with the big boys. Keep your swimmers on with kids in the shallow end.
Or please do tell us all your vast knowledge about solar and wind. What parameters did you use to size and set up your system? Battery backup or no? Micro-inverters or no? What happens at the junction box? Go ahead and show us how it’s done 😂

You look as stupid in this discussion as you do in every other btw…it’s sad you are such a maroon and act like you know stuff. Sister you are - Light years from actual reality in all aspects of your life.
 
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hjeagle1vol said:
As I said you are stupid. So you can’t understand 30% efficiency on a product 😂 what a maroon…
So if your car only works 2.5 days a week you couldn’t understand efficiency.
Please tell us from you wise experience in the field about the reliability and efficiency of solar and why it’s only 30%.

Ok damn I feel sorry for you I’ll tell you why…heat. Maybe you can figure it out from there. Tell us whether you’d use micro inverters and run in parallel or whether it’s be better to just run serial straight to the meter? Does a meter accept DC yes or no? Again you don’t know 💩 other than what you’ve been fed by the experts to believe. It’s the same with your political beliefs.
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Can't make this up. I agree with you he has no clue, but you are running close. "Other than what he has been fed by the experts?" You think he's quoting experts? I kind of doubt it. I am curious as to your inference towards experts. It makes me think you're an expert. What are your bonafides?
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
For individuals, yeah, it starts at 30%

Since we were talking about large wind/solar farms, most of the time, these are getting one of the kickers from IRA that will bump it up to 40% or more. Layer on state incentive, favorable depreciation writeoff, and the amount the govt subsidizes gets large pretty quickly

My theory is this subsidization places more emphasis on production than innovation. Just think that hurts price and efficiency....
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In comparison how much subsidies goes toward nuclear,hydro, coal or oil produced energy.
I can't speak for solar but I know wind power is getting a great deal more efficient. I know in a survival setting you can line a cardboard box with foil and bake biscuits,but it's mighty slow.
 
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BernardKingGOAT said:
Can't make this up. I agree with you he has no clue, but you are running close. "Other than what he has been fed by the experts?" You think he's quoting experts? I kind of doubt it. I am curious as to your inference towards experts. It makes me think you're an expert. What are your bonafides?
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Oh great purveyor of knowledge I bow to you. You are the expert of all thing.

JUST RELAX
 
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BernardKingGOAT said:
Can't make this up. I agree with you he has no clue, but you are running close. "Other than what he has been fed by the experts?" You think he's quoting experts? I kind of doubt it. I am curious as to your inference towards experts. It makes me think you're an expert. What are your bonafides?
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I ran an ecological energy company for several years. I witnessed the owner lose $750k of feel
Good project money…a good woman. I designed, sold, installed, and maintained solar and wind projects. In Cali at $.30+ pkwh and heavily subsidized yes a residential project could pay for itself in a few years. The TVA ran a 5 yr (diminishing each yr) subsidy program. They bailed out because at $.10pkwh energy cost here in northeast Tennessee the ROI even with subsidies were taking 5-7yrz commercial and 12-15yr residential.

If you wanna buy 20acres set up a field and know how it’ll pay ~ $6k a month running it straight to the meter and selling it back. Paid for in 5-7 yrs and with a healthy return - maintenance costs…if it lives 20yrs and you know what you’re doing in optimal design and product selection.

Or I’m just FOS. Makes no difference to me what ya believe.
 
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swampfoxfan said:
Your stance that windmills take as long to repay the cost has already been shown false. Cost is paid back in six months or so. But you keep posting lies of big oil. You know one of the industries that purchased the presidencyand the maga base.
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"Shown to be false" by who, exactly? Do you ever research anything before posting? 6 months??? I mean, Lord.

Let me help:
Calculation Steps for Simple Payback Period:
Initial Investment: For a 3 MW turbine at $1,700/kW midpoint = $5.1 million.
Annual Gross Revenue: 9.47 GWh × $40/MWh = $378,800.
Annual Net Cash Flow: Subtract O&M (~$32.5/kW/year × 3,000 kW = $97,500) = $378,800 – $97,500 = $281,300.
Payback Period: Initial investment ÷ Annual net cash flow = $5.1 million ÷ $281,300 ≈ 18 years (high-cost scenario). Adjust for better conditions (e.g., 45% capacity factor, $1,300/kW capex, $50/MWh price) = ~10 years. Averaging viable projects yields 8–15 years.
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hjeagle1vol said:
I ran an ecological energy company for several years. I witnessed the owner lose $750k of feel
Good project money…a good woman. I designed, sold, installed, and maintained solar and wind projects. In Cali at $.30+ pkwh and heavily subsidized yes a residential project could pay for itself in a few years. The TVA ran a 5 yr (diminishing each yr) subsidy program. They bailed out because at $.10pkwh energy cost here in northeast Tennessee the ROI even with subsidies were taking 5-7yrz commercial and 12-15yr residential.

If you wanna buy 20acres set up a field and know how it’ll pay ~ $6k a month running it straight to the meter and selling it back. Paid for in 5-7 yrs and with a healthy return - maintenance costs…if it lives 20yrs and you know what you’re doing in optimal design and product selection.

Or I’m just FOS. Makes no difference to me what ya believe.
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You gave me your resume on the matter. You cared a little bit as to what I believe. Thanks for providing some good info!
 
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swampfoxfan said:
You and so many magas want to believe that solar and wind are pipe dreams. You completely ignore the truths that some countries rely on wind, solar, and hydro for nearly all thier energy.

You want to believe what you want to believe, irregardless of evidence.
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That's fair. Technically, communism doesn't have to be authoritarian, but it usually is.
volbound1700 said:
If I had to redo it, far left would be anarchy and Libertarian would be the far left party. Both Democrat and Republican parties are left in my poll. Authoritarian regimes like Communism and Fascism are far right with monarchies being middle to far right. Anything in the USA leans left in that logic.

Right = More Government control
Left = Less Government control

It is basically how you would look at governments when this nation was founded. It takes an all-time versus 20th/21st Century approach.

A good example of how our current terminology is broken, if Nazi Germany is far right than what is Germany in 1914? What about the Holy Roman Empire and the Hapsburgs or Prussia? Modern systems can't even address it.

As socialists as the Democrats maybe at time, they are still pretty far from Communism and are closer to the Republican Party than they are the USSR. USSR is closer to Nazi Germany (and vice versa) than it is any political party in the USA.
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