Israel vs Palestinians II

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MAD said:
Italian doctors - Marah died from leukemia

Israeli doctors - Marah died from leukemia

Gaza Cancer Centre - Marah died from leukemia

BBC Headline - ISRAEL STARVES GAZAN WOMAN TO DEATH

Huff - “See, Look Disgusting Zionist baby killers”
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All this for it to apparently not even be leukemia

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Smokey123 said:
Pisan cut ties with Israeli universities and called it a genocide so obviously this is just lies
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I disagree with your conclusion, I don't think the bold means they are lying about whether or not their tests showed leukemia. Israel is even more invested than Pisan is and could easily be lying themselves
 
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NashVol11 said:
I disagree with your conclusion, I don't think the bold means they are lying about whether or not their tests showed leukemia. Israel is even more invested than Pisan is and could easily be lying themselves
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I was being sarcastic. It will be the genuine response you see from some tho
 
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marcusluvsvols said:
That makes me sick. Mom and dad forcing their young teenaged daughter to marry a much older man. Its sex trafficking. Period. Selling your daughter to some nasty old man who can and will beat her because she is now his "property". Guess there was a goat shortage in Crapstainistan.
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But a blind eye to the guy actually arrested for preying on children? Yikes

All of the suspects believed they were meeting minors when undercover officers instead confronted and arrested them, police said.
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The Israeli news outlet Ynet reported on Wednesday that the US had detained “an employee of the Israel National Cyber Directorate” for interrogation while he was representing his country at a professional conference. That employee then returned to his hotel and flew back to Israel two days later.
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“Israeli officials downplayed the incident, saying it carried ‘no political implications’ and was resolved quickly,” Ynet reported, without naming Alexandrovich or mentioning he had been arrested in connection with a felony charge leveled against him by Nevada law enforcement officials. “The reasons for the questioning remain unclear but may relate to the employee’s conduct.”
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www.theguardian.com

Israeli government official arrested in Nevada in internet crimes against children sting

Tom Artiom Alexandrovich was released and returned to Israel after being charged with luring a child for a sex act
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marcusluvsvols said:
That makes me sick. Mom and dad forcing their young teenaged daughter to marry a much older man. Its sex trafficking. Period. Selling your daughter to some nasty old man who can and will beat her because she is now his "property". Guess there was a goat shortage in Crapstainistan.
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A lot of people in this thread spend time freaking out about bad things that are way out of our control and not enough time freaking out about what the US is actually doing to directly support bad things.

What is the point you are even making? That you prefer Jews to Muslims? OK, cool. I prefer that our government not let pedos off the hook.
 
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MAD said:


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Maybe. Why didn't we follow standard procedure? Someone facing felony sex crime charges usually has their passport seized and travel restricted.

Regardless of who intervened when, this smells to high heaven.

"It was a state judge" doesn't mean anything, and this admin is practiced in that sort of deception. They don't even explicitly say that no one intervened.
 
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n_huffhines said:
A lot of people in this thread spend time freaking out about bad things that are way out of our control and not enough time freaking out about what the US is actually doing to directly support bad things.

What is the point you are even making? That you prefer Jews to Muslims? OK, cool. I prefer that our government not let pedos off the hook.
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Liar.
You prefer the government not let the pedos you don’t like off the hook.
 
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🚨 A self-proclaimed “progressive” salon owner heard a foreign accent and asked, “where are you from?” When the client answered “Israel,” she called him a “genocidal baby killer” and kicked him out. So I booked an appointment… and confronted her on camera.
 
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jmacvols1 said:
Olivia Reingold
@Olivia_Reingold


Two weeks ago, I noticed something strange: the same emaciated toddler in Gaza that The New York Times had put on its front page had also appeared in nearly every mainstream outlet. Different news organizations, different photographers, same boy. So I did something no one else bothered to do: I ran the children’s names through Google Translate and combed Arabic media. What
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and I found is that nearly every image told the same story: these were kids with cystic fibrosis, rickets, or other serious ailments used by mainstream media to give the false impression of a famine.

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Great article, PR damage is already done though.

None of us want any of the children to starve.

It’s all part of the Hamas strategy imo.

And it makes you wonder why they couldn't actually find even one starving child as their poster child? 🤔
 
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n_huffhines said:
Maybe. Why didn't we follow standard procedure? Someone facing felony sex crime charges usually has their passport seized and travel restricted.

Regardless of who intervened when, this smells to high heaven.

"It was a state judge" doesn't mean anything, and this admin is practiced in that sort of deception. They don't even explicitly say that no one intervened.
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Curious, where do you get your basis of knowledge for what “standard procedure” is in these types of cases?

It is also interesting that you think the feds must commonly scour state charges to “intervene” on behalf of Israeli citizens at their bond hearings.
 
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NCFisher said:
Well, no; I'd spoken in the prior deleted thread of 1800s history when Jewish groups began purchasing land from Turkish, Syrian, Jordanian landowners to re-establish Israel. When you're attacked multiple times with every Arab/Muslim entity around you vowing to erase you from the earth and you manage to survive that, you're a fooking idiot to not keep strategic land you've acquired. And those countries are fooking idiots for gambling with land and having any expectation of owning it again.
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Except acquiring land by force is out of bounds now. Remember the new rules we helped set forth after WWII. That's why it's called illegally occupied. Other than of course Palestine and Syria with the Golan Heights, whose land has Israel occupied?
NCFisher said:
You seem to indirectly agree on how pointless the term 'genocide' has become. Hamas has clearly stated their intent - no Jews. What you're actually saying is that intent doesn't matter if the group lacks the practical wherewithal to clearing the area. I agree, but that's the problem with a literal, self-serving reading without considering the Armenian and Jewish holocaust origins. Hamas is a valid, governing military target; that is the 'group' Israel is 'genociding' and if anyone but Jews in Israel were doing it, it'd be just another country defending and securing their nation. Why don't the rules apply to a Jew statey?
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It's still as valid a term as it ever has been. Intent remains key.
Where has hamas stated no Jews as a matter of policy? Their charter say Jews are free to stay but under hamas / Muslim governance.
Israel is genociding Gazans. It can't be said that they're genociding hamas since hamas is a political party.
Gaza isn't Israel; it's occupied territory. Any government attacking a foe with the disregard for noncombatant casualties and frequent targeting of noncombatants like Israel has done would also be condemned as Israel, Sudan, Myanmar, and Russia have.
NCFisher said:
Israel could and probably should have cleared Israel - from river to sea - of Muslims long ago. Instead, they've allowed >2 million to be Israeli citizens and multiply, who apparently like it enough to not emigrate to an Arab country.
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They tried but only ran off 750,000 or so,, Muslims and Christians. What other country would take them and why? They're not Egyptians or Jordanians; they're Palestinians.
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To appease Westerners such as yourself, they gifted the Arab land (strategically captured from yet another Arab state seeking their destruction) and essentially created a 2nd state.
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It wasn't a gift and it wasn't Israel's to gift.
NCFisher said:
Gaza should be viewed as the 2-state solution trial-run. All the Arabs had to do was simply live there, create a vibrant economy with seaside ports, and not turn it into a military launch pad. Instead, they - and Westerners who've parroted the Islamists - created this state of affairs. Welcome to your handiwork, anyone?
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It would have been a bit difficult to create a vibrant economy when they aren't even allowed fishing rights off their coast, their airport was destroyed, they aren't allowed control of imports and exports, etc. In short, they have no de facto sovereignty over the territory. Israel controls entrance and egress. It's been pretty much an open air prison for years.
 
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OrangeTsar said:
If a person really cares about kids; the best thing they can hope for is the rapid and total defeat of Hamas. Then the children of Gaza maybe have some hope of growing up in a world in which their parents don’t hope and pray that they become martyrs or blow themselves up with a suicide vest. And enjoy a childhood free of weapons training and constant indoctrination in hate.
The lives of children in Germany and Japan were much more hopeful in 1946 than they were in 1944.
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That's sophomorically disingenuous. Pray tell what happens when hamas is totally defeated? Do rainbows appear and unicorns prance and everyone live happily ever after? It's what happens then that determines a lot about the surviving kids' futures. It's perfectly humane and reasonable to call for an immediate stop to the atrocities visited upon the kids and other noncombatants now.
 
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OrangeTsar said:
So you believe those are the policies of the state of Israel?
If that is your belief, then yes indeed you SHOULD condemn such.
I however do not believe that premise. I am sure that individual soldiers have crossed a line sometimes (as happens in every conflict) but I do not believe that such incidents reflect Israeli policy.
Most of the examples cited by opponents of Israel are either wholly staged or are reported giving only the Hamas interpretation.
Have you ever seen the film Rashamon?
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By that token you wouldn't have condemned My Lai.
 
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