Recruiting Forum Football Talk IX

[knoxvol52]

And everyone will always know he was a cheater now.

I bet Harbaugh has many sleepless nights ...

 

[DD4ME]

Patriots cheated and won in a way that is hard to debate long term. They cheated some, but they also just beat the crap out of everyone.

Michigan is a title built on pure fraud and now it will crumble. So I am sure fans will justify it, but to me they cut their own throats and lost any chance at legacy.

 

[jave36]

Question: considering the new NCAA precedent set for opponent espionage, aside from honor, is there any reason not to be doing this?

Not every college coach has a guaranteed NFL job they can jump to if they get a show cause. So it's a pretty big deterrant for those.

 

[DD4ME]

I bet Harbaugh has many sleepless nights ...

That's a him issue.

 

[Jimmy Football]

They gave Pruitt similar for IMO less.

Significantly less.

(Btw, I’m not advocating Tennessee start sign-stealing, because it’s wrong. My point is I don’t think the NCAA has sufficiently deterred teams from trying this.)

 

[rikberry31]

got the QB coms now as well, although I wonder how effective they are.

I don't think having the coach in your ear is that helpful for pre snap reads, it takes away the stealing signs business. Most defenses wait til there is under 15 seconds (coms are off) to fit into their pre snap formation.

 

[Enki_Amenra]

That’s one year of Adidas money. It’s not nothing, but for a natty? Seems worth the risk.

Also, my guess is they wouldn’t have dared giving Harbaugh a 10-yr ban if he wasn’t already realistically out of their jurisdiction. That’s the worst part of the punishment, by far, and it doesn’t affect 2025 Michigan at all.

they should vacate the heck out of that title.

 

[jave36]

show-cause has no real effect on Harbaugh....how about a few million dollar fine out of his pocket and permanent ban from NCAA

GROK: Since Harbaugh is established in the NFL with a lucrative contract and no indication of returning to college football, the show-cause penalty is largely symbolic in his case.

That article says Moore will receive his own 2 year show cause?

 

[DD4ME]

Significantly less.

(Btw, I’m not advocating Tennessee start sign-stealing, because it’s wrong. My point is I don’t think the NCAA has sufficiently deterred teams from trying this.)

I disagree, this seems like a big deterrant to me, but I do wish there had been more. So i get that perspective 100. As Brooks pointed out. This has more to do with TV money causing the softer touch.

 

[SKV84]

I did think Gibson was a transfer. Pruitt I'm pretty sure recruited Lally and Hadden. Martinez is also the coach I have least issue with out of the three, because at least he can take guys that are performing on other teams from the portal. I do wonder if he even bothers with recruiting any CB in the top 100 out of high school. I just don't remember him landing a splash recruit. The Oline coach has finally stopped missing on everyone last year, but that group looked awful pass blocking last year.

While I agree with you about transfer portal issues could definitely contribute to depth, we are still recruiting 5 oline every year. Are we missing on that many evaluations? Our tackles looked like the were playing in quick sand last year.

And since you brought up Ohio State, it's apparent that they know what they're doing with NIL compared to our absolute lack of success landing big names. Right now we are holding on to hope of flipping Keys from LSU whom we led for last year according to the VN sages on this board. Gray is a long shot, and we supposedly lead for Hitter with an NIL that keeps getting out bid. If we land one of those 3 and finish with 3 top 50 guys, it's a success. If we just end up with Faizon and Moa, then we are still going to be a second tier SEC team on the depth chart. I'm not a star gazer, but we have to have those recruiting wins to take the next step in my opinion.

Lmao...you thought Gibson was a transfer!? Pruitt didn't recruit those other 2 either. Jesus.....before you started spewing your crap in here and such...you probably should have made sure you knew what you were talking about. Now you just look stupid but that's par for the course.

 

[Rishvol]

Where's the scholarship reduction?

 

[DD4ME]

Brooks is fired up.

 

[jave36]

That article says Moore will receive his own 2 year show cause?

 

[knoxvol52]

Where's the scholarship reduction?

 

[DD4ME]

Here they all are. The revenue side is bigger than people are saying. Yes MI can afford it, but it ain't small. Plus they have a hit on visits. To me the question is now much did Moore know and should he have been hit harder?

 

[DD4ME]

Where's the scholarship reduction?

This...but now they can just buy scholarships through NIL. I think money is the best deterrant, but more would have been nice.

 

[DD4ME]

This is really what matters today

 

[DD4ME]

 

[PEPPERJAX]

MUCK FICHIGAN!

 

[rikberry31]

I understand you big "MACHO" men don't like Women's sports but Lady Vols Soccer is playing #1 UNC on SEC Network starting now...

I'd like to have watched but I was busy putting shards of glass under my eyelids.

 

[NMVol]

Hooker should seek damages.

 

[knoxvol52]

I don't think having the coach in your ear is that helpful for pre snap reads, it takes away the stealing signs business. Most defenses wait til there is under 15 seconds (coms are off) to fit into their pre snap formation.

Especially in College...

 

[PlanetVolunteer]

Ainge talkin a boot the scrimmage right now.

Brame he says will be a household name.

Said Aguilar looked good. Calm, poised, didn't miss any wide open ones. Missed a couple passes that were incomplete, but not terrible misses. He didn't do anything that was terrible and didn't do anything that made him go "omg amazing"

Very physical and big at the LOS.

They were doing season predictions and said they looked like a 9-3 10-2 football team.

 

[Jimmy Football]

Here they all are. The revenue side is bigger than people are saying. Yes MI can afford it, but it ain't small. Plus they have a hit on visits. To me the question is now much did Moore know and should he have been hit harder?

If their current head coach is out for two years, that’s much more significant.

Edit: He’s not prohibited from coaching during the show-cause? Then why did they even issue it?

 

[Adam Sandler]

That's identity theft, sir.

Pipe down Lloyd.