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Ritzwatch said:
It is fascinating in real time to watch the people who celebrated the Biden Admin's failure to predict and warn of the tragic consequences of Helene upon Western NC now blaming Trump for not being able to ferry everyone in Tx to safety.

I don't know when we came up with the expectation that government protect us from weather, but whoever sold that to the general public, they were good at what they did.
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I am still angry with Bush Jr. for not being able to control Hurricane Katrina.
 
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Ritzwatch said:
It is fascinating in real time to watch the people who celebrated the Biden Admin's failure to predict and warn of the tragic consequences of Helene upon Western NC now blaming Trump for not being able to ferry everyone in Tx to safety.

I don't know when we came up with the expectation that government protect us from weather, but whoever sold that to the general public, they were good at what they did.
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Sadly I don't think there's really much effort involved. The hopelessly politically partisan part of the population is ready to accept anything which can be used against "the other guys".
 
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hog88 said:
You mean to tell me the weather forecast wasn't dead on accurate?
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I can kind of understand the angst among our resident TDS population. After all, do they not believe in forecasts predicting average temperature changes to within a tenth or two of a degree some x number of decades in the future?

If one buys into that, and the requisite government oversight to manage it, believing that what happened in Texas is the sole responsibility of one man is but a small mental slide to the left.
 
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Ritzwatch said:
It is fascinating in real time to watch the people who celebrated the Biden Admin's failure to predict and warn of the tragic consequences of Helene upon Western NC now blaming Trump for not being able to ferry everyone in Tx to safety.

I don't know when we came up with the expectation that government protect us from weather, but whoever sold that to the general public, they were good at what they did.
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You do realize that Donald Trump was one of those people who was directly blaming Biden/Harris for a bad federal response and/or lack of preparedness for Helene .... right?

When it comes to politicians, it is often the same people who are defending themselves now, and decrying the politicization of a tragedy .... that were so quick to blame other politicians in the past for the same thing they now say shouldn't be politicized.

It is a toxic culture of hypocrisy and selective outrage based solely on tribal politics.
 
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GroverCleveland said:
I can kind of understand the angst among our resident TDS population. After all, do they not believe in forecasts predicting average temperature changes to within a tenth or two of a degree some x number of decades in the future?

If one buys into that, and the requisite government oversight to manage it, believing that what happened in Texas is the sole responsibility of one man is but a small mental slide to the left.
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LOL.

Again .... your sarcasm would carry more weight, if Trump wasn't as guilty as anyone of playing politics with natural disasters (and even a plane crash).

But politicizing tragedies is only a problem we see from the left? SMH.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
You do realize that Donald Trump was one of those people who was directly blaming Biden/Harris for a bad federal response and/or lack of preparedness for Helene .... right?
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Absolutely, I realize that.

BowlBrother85 said:
When it comes to politicians, it is often the same people who are defending themselves now, and decrying the politicization of a tragedy .... that were so quick to blame other politicians in the past for the same thing they now say shouldn't be politicized.
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I was referring more to this board, specifically, and not to national politicians.
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It is a toxic culture of hypocrisy and selective outrage based solely on tribal politics.
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And the federal response to Helene was dreadful. Government has always been pretty crummy when it comes to responding to mountain folk. Been that way since people first started working their ways back into the hollers. Part of it is that those places are just plain hard to reach, so they are easy to forget. Part of it is that, once they are cut off, there is no other easy way to give them aid.

Regardless, the response was pretty dreadful in the communities that didn't rely on "new money" - tech from the triangle, retirees from up North, or bankers from Charlotte. Think Blowing Rock, Asheville - good response; other communities, not so much.
A fascinating watch from not too long ago that is well worth your time. Has a pretty good balance to the realities on the ground:

 
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BowlBrother85 said:
You do realize that Donald Trump was one of those people who was directly blaming Biden/Harris for a bad federal response and/or lack of preparedness for Helene .... right?

When it comes to politicians, it is often the same people who are defending themselves now, and decrying the politicization of a tragedy .... that were so quick to blame other politicians in the past for the same thing they now say shouldn't be politicized.

It is a toxic culture of hypocrisy and selective outrage based solely on tribal politics.
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But it will be different when your people are in power.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
You do realize that Donald Trump was one of those people who was directly blaming Biden/Harris for a bad federal response and/or lack of preparedness for Helene .... right?

When it comes to politicians, it is often the same people who are defending themselves now, and decrying the politicization of a tragedy .... that were so quick to blame other politicians in the past for the same thing they now say shouldn't be politicized.

It is a toxic culture of hypocrisy and selective outrage based solely on tribal politics.
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Your reply is about Trump's gripe about Biden's response.
Ritz's post was about the prediction.

I may be the only one, but those seem different to me.

eta: ...unless you see the "ferry everyone to safety" as a viable response to flash flooding.
 
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McDad said:
Your reply is about Trump's gripe about Biden's response.
Ritz's post was about the prediction.

I may be the only one, but those seem different to me.

eta: ...unless you see the "ferry everyone to safety" as a viable response to flash flooding.
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They both involve playing politics with a natural disaster.
 
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McDad said:
FTR, I didn't infer any sarcasm. Makes sense to me that if a person thinks a few decimal places of global temp can be predicted decades ahead, then those same people would expect the same precision for a weather event over a few days.
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Right? I thought I was being understanding and exhibiting compassion and empathy.
 
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McDad said:
Your reply is about Trump's gripe about Biden's response.
Ritz's post was about the prediction.

I may be the only one, but those seem different to me.

eta: ...unless you see the "ferry everyone to safety" as a viable response to flash flooding.
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FWIW, it seemed that way to me as well. A lack of discernment about the facets of the two positions?
 
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GroverCleveland said:
Uhm. What part was sarcastic?
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It wasn't so much sarcasm, as it was trying to make a point with an exaggerated comment. The forecasts of the National Weather Service were off by a mile. Your post makes it seem as though whoever is calling them out for it, is setting an unreasonably high expectation for their accuracy. Politics shouldn't be played with this .... but those forecasts were terrible by any standard.
 
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