OldTimer’s Dugout - Off Topic Thread

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#142,354
Orange. said:
It’s 50 years or more years old to say free speech “that’s what makes America great.” It’s a cheerful and constructive way to conclude a disagreement.

You’ve never heard people say that?
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I’m pretty sure he has heard it plenty of times. He was just stating how other people might have perceived it.
 
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VolPack22 said:
If Kirby and Zander were first round talents you best believe they would’ve left for MLB. Nothing would have prevented them from getting their degree. Trey was forced to wait behind a very good Jake Rucker at 3B and then shined in his one lone season as the starter, otherwise Trey would have left for MLB early. I don’t think it’s fair to prop those guys on a higher pedestal whenever their situations weren’t like the other guys you mentioned.
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No one was forced to wait behind anyone. They could have easily transferred like many others have. I appreciate their loyalty. Now, I agree most 1st rounders are gone (and should be) once they are MLB eligible.
 
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Orange. said:
A VFL, in my view, plays for and finishes with the Vols. Once he becomes a Vol, he remains a Vol and is thus a VFL. And if he plays pro ball, he plays and represents as a former Vol, boosting our brand and recruiting. A player who transfers to Tennessee chooses Tennessee, and if he finishes here (whether using all of his eligibility or leaving early for pro ball), he is a VFL just like the others. A player who transfers out is not a VFL. Let him be like Burns "a former Vol." It's a contradiction for a Vol for life to have become by his own choosing something (non-pro) other than a Vol.

So I say Hendon Hooker and Bru McCoy, Liam Doyle and Andrew Fischer, and Dalton Knecht and Chaz Lanier are all VLFs.

Chase Burns was one of my faves. And I was so excited to see him and the whole team play in person one weekend (Supers 2023). An unforgetable experience. But Burns gave up his VFL status when he chose another college team over the Vols after that season. Anything else is a contradiction in terms. I don't "hate" the guy. The only thing I really hated was Burns ruining my favorite Vols baseball gif 😂, which was Burns' throat slash from game 3 of that super regional. Burns' MLB debut did bring it all up again for me (and I guess for a lot of people), but I didn't and don't hate him. I just didn't really feel like rooting for him. I felt pretty much indifferent. So I went about my day and cheered for VFLs CMo and Crochet. I do hate Wake. Hating Wake has been great fun, watching them lose two years in a row in the post season.

The only former Vol I have ever hated is To'o To'o and he fully deserves it for seeking and receiving special permission (it wasn't even legal, but it was OK for Bama :rolleyes:) to transfer intra conference to our hated rival Bama. But that sort of worked itself out on the third Saturday of October, 2022. I got to see Toot literally get pushed around all day in Neyland, and end up literally crying to his mama. Good times.

I do have special affection for players who started and played their entire career at Tennessee. But it doesn't make them more a VFL than the ones who chose the Vols as a transfer. It does make them special to fans and most fans.
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Well said! 🍊👍👊👊🍊🍊👍👍👊😀😀
 
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TAF said:
'Cause they were ALL in 'Nam...toasting "Charlie"...

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well played

ROTC was stll required that year, and I managed to get an F . Numerous raids of our marches, etc that spring helped spur trustees to end the 2-year requirement, erasing my failure. The next year, Dean Rusk got a rude welcome while visiting .campus for a speech and a reception
.at his frat house
 
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She was saying that the right to one’s own opinion and the right to civilly disagree and thus not be told what one must believe and say that’s what makes America great.

And they told her she is not allowed to have or speak that opinion. 😂 Solid gold! 😂
 
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chuckiepoo said:
Caratini (Astros C) launches a 423’ blast, B8. 2-0. Hader in to close, T9
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Caratini was one of a half dozen catchers who backed up Contreras for the Cubs in 2017. Schwarber was still being used behind the plate that year. All credit to the Baseball Reference (and the know-your -enemy brain cell)/
 
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chuckiepoo said:
It apparently sounded too much like a current catch phrase.
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...or, because it would be an example of American Exceptionalism, which has become a verboten thang.

Which means she also couldn't have said "...which is what makes America exceptional" though, with the increase of censorship in Western countries, the U.S. would be an "exception" to that trend. It's an interesting thought exercise: can you have freedom of speech without freedom of vocabulary?

It's kinda like in Jr. High, when someone would admonish "Uncool. Don't say that. Nobody uses that word anymore." and I'd wonder... who is the person who decides these things? My only clue was that it was obviously somebody cooler than me...
 
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