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In the NJTPA's 13-county region, Tesla vehicles make up about 54.5% of the total electric vehicle (EV) registrations, with 66,529 out of 122,000 EVs. This translates to about 54.5% of the EVs in that region being Teslas. However, it's important to note this figure is specific to the NJTPA's 13-county region and may not be representative of the entire state of New Jersey.

SO at least half the chargers should be Tesla

Or you install chargers to suit 100% of the vehicles. Tesla vehicles don't require Tesla chargers

 

[LouderVol]

Why would they be so different? The main compatibility issues are charger port and cables. They aren't the best or fastest anymore they were just the first. I have a wired charger at home and I'm aware how they work

I apologize to the electrical engineers because I always get it messed up volt vs amp, but if its a 400 amp tesla charger, and you install a 350 amp new charger, its not something you can tweak in the field. unless there is some specific adapter, which is expensive and incredibly long lead time. These aren't going to 120/240v systems. its the same reason the electrician who comes to your house to wire an LED light isn't the same guy working on the transmission lines. orders of magnitude difference between this and what you have in your house.

if the volt/amp requirement is different its a big deal. like ripping out all the wiring to at least the panel with the switches, if not further than that. we run into this all the time with elevators. We specify and design to one elevator manufacturer, contractor goes out and buys a different elevator, and has to rewire the whole system. same thing with mechanical units and most heavy equipment that is hardwired in.

its not like a hose, where you physically adjust the opening to be bigger or smaller depending on how much you want.

if the new one is the same volt/amp, its not an issue. but color me sceptical.

 

[hog88]

Saturday at the boat ramp, the couple ahead of us were pulling their boat with a Rivian. The guy backed far enough in to get on the boat with his feet dry and had his lady back it the rest of the way in. The problem was her phone wouldn't connect to the truck so she couldn't put it in gear to back it the rest of the way in. 15 minutes before azzhole decided to get off the boat and hand her his phone. So my question is what happens if your phone dies, are you "out of gas"?

 

[Wireless1]

Or you install chargers to suit 100% of the vehicles. Tesla vehicles don't require Tesla chargers

And my son's Genesis has an adapter to use Tesla. I guess my real question is why are they removing/replacing chargers instead of adding. Are chargers setting idle now? Is there not enough electric infrastructure to add more chargers? Is there not enough space to park more vehicles? When my son comes to visit from DC he says the EV's frequently are jockeying for placement on the interstate because they are all headed to the same exit for the same chargers - ore he's at least smart enough to do so.

 

[utvolpj]

And my son's Genesis has an adapter to use Tesla. I guess my real question is why are they removing/replacing chargers instead of adding. Are chargers setting idle now? Is there not enough electric infrastructure to add more chargers? Is there not enough space to park more vehicles? When my son comes to visit from DC he says the EV's frequently are jockeying for placement on the interstate because they are all headed to the same exit for the same chargers - ore he's at least smart enough to do so.

I have an adapter but the way Tesla set up their chargers makes it nearly impossible for other vehicles to use them. That's the issue for me at least

 

[utvolpj]

Saturday at the boat ramp, the couple ahead of us were pulling their boat with a Rivian. The guy backed far enough in to get on the boat with his feet dry and had his lady back it the rest of the way in. The problem was her phone wouldn't connect to the truck so she couldn't put it in gear to back it the rest of the way in. 15 minutes before azzhole decided to get off the boat and hand her his phone. So my question is what happens if your phone dies, are you "out of gas"?

I have the same on my phone but always carry my key. Probably an old habit but if it didn't connect I'd be stuck

 

[utvolpj]

I apologize to the electrical engineers because I always get it messed up volt vs amp, but if its a 400 amp tesla charger, and you install a 350 amp new charger, its not something you can tweak in the field. unless there is some specific adapter, which is expensive and incredibly long lead time. These aren't going to 120/240v systems. its the same reason the electrician who comes to your house to wire an LED light isn't the same guy working on the transmission lines. orders of magnitude difference between this and what you have in your house.

if the volt/amp requirement is different its a big deal. like ripping out all the wiring to at least the panel with the switches, if not further than that. we run into this all the time with elevators. We specify and design to one elevator manufacturer, contractor goes out and buys a different elevator, and has to rewire the whole system. same thing with mechanical units and most heavy equipment that is hardwired in.

its not like a hose, where you physically adjust the opening to be bigger or smaller depending on how much you want.

if the new one is the same volt/amp, its not an issue. but color me sceptical.

Other articles said they are currently co-located with Tesla so I'm not sure it's going to be a huge deal. This has evidently been in the works for 3yrs with the new company winning the bid to be exclusive in NJ but Tesla kept installing theirs

Unlikely to ever impact me as I don't expect to ever have to charge in NJ.

 

[LouderVol]

Other articles said they are currently co-located with Tesla so I'm not sure it's going to be a huge deal. This has evidently been in the works for 3yrs with the new company winning the bid to be exclusive in NJ but Tesla kept installing theirs

Unlikely to ever impact me as I don't expect to ever have to charge in NJ.

tesla installing theirs at their own cost? Then again, why remove them? If tesla was doing it on their own they would have had to have provided EVERYTHING going back to the transmission lines bringing power to the site.

they can absolutely be used alongside each other, that's why I brought up it was dumb to remove them. There would just be separate conduits going from the chargers back to whatever panel was used, and if tesla did all of this themselves, then the conduits would be going to a completely separate panel. I doubt the exclusive guys were willing to let Tesla piggy back off their systems at all. which is why they could have stayed.

 

[utvolpj]

tesla installing theirs at their own cost? Then again, why remove them? If tesla was doing it on their own they would have had to have provided EVERYTHING going back to the transmission lines bringing power to the site.

they can absolutely be used alongside each other, that's why I brought up it was dumb to remove them. There would just be separate conduits going from the chargers back to whatever panel was used, and if tesla did all of this themselves, then the conduits would be going to a completely separate panel. I doubt the exclusive guys were willing to let Tesla piggy back off their systems at all. which is why they could have stayed.

Because it appears the bid was for exclusive rights. That's why they're all being replaced. They're not going to allow tesla to make money when it's their station.

 

[Vol423]

Other articles said they are currently co-located with Tesla so I'm not sure it's going to be a huge deal. This has evidently been in the works for 3yrs with the new company winning the bid to be exclusive in NJ but Tesla kept installing theirs

Unlikely to ever impact me as I don't expect to ever have to charge in NJ.

I'm hoping to never have to charge anywhere in any state.

 

[utvolpj]

I'm hoping to never have to charge anywhere in any state.

 

[Wireless1]

Because it appears the bid was for exclusive rights. That's why they're all being replaced. They're not going to allow tesla to make money when it's their station.

Ahh, that’s the answer, bigger kickbacks

 

[Orangeburst]

https://insideevs.com/news/761428/tesla-superchargers-removed-from-new-jersey-turnpike/

 

[Franklin Pierce]

Dozens of Unsold Tesla Cybertrucks pile up in Michigan shopping center parking lot, irking locals​

Tesla is under pressure from Michigan authorities after scores of unsold Cybertrucks were discovered parked at a shuttered shopping center in Farmington Hills, prompting concerns about violations of local zoning regulations.

Over the past several weeks, local residents and social media users have posted images and videos showing rows of Cybertrucks lined up at Hunter’s Square shopping center on Orchard Lake Road.

The site is adjacent to a Tesla service center in West Bloomfield, leading to speculation that the facility is using the lot as an overflow site to manage unsold inventory. Reports estimate more than 100 vehicles have accumulated in the space.

https://nypost.com/2025/06/04/busin...-up-in-michigan-shopping-center-parking-lot/#

Dozens of unsold Tesla Cybertrucks pile up in Michigan shopping center parking lot, irking locals

Images and videos posted on social media show rows of Cybertrucks lined up at Hunter’s Square shopping center in Farmington Hill.

nypost.com

 

[EasternVol]

Dozens of Unsold Tesla Cybertrucks pile up in Michigan shopping center parking lot, irking locals​

Tesla is under pressure from Michigan authorities after scores of unsold Cybertrucks were discovered parked at a shuttered shopping center in Farmington Hills, prompting concerns about violations of local zoning regulations.

Over the past several weeks, local residents and social media users have posted images and videos showing rows of Cybertrucks lined up at Hunter’s Square shopping center on Orchard Lake Road.

The site is adjacent to a Tesla service center in West Bloomfield, leading to speculation that the facility is using the lot as an overflow site to manage unsold inventory. Reports estimate more than 100 vehicles have accumulated in the space.

Dozens of unsold Tesla Cybertrucks pile up in Michigan shopping center parking lot, irking locals
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Dozens of unsold Tesla Cybertrucks pile up in Michigan shopping center parking lot, irking locals

Images and videos posted on social media show rows of Cybertrucks lined up at Hunter’s Square shopping center in Farmington Hill.

nypost.com

Where are the dozens?

 

[lawgator1]

Dozens of Unsold Tesla Cybertrucks pile up in Michigan shopping center parking lot, irking locals​

Tesla is under pressure from Michigan authorities after scores of unsold Cybertrucks were discovered parked at a shuttered shopping center in Farmington Hills, prompting concerns about violations of local zoning regulations.

Over the past several weeks, local residents and social media users have posted images and videos showing rows of Cybertrucks lined up at Hunter’s Square shopping center on Orchard Lake Road.

The site is adjacent to a Tesla service center in West Bloomfield, leading to speculation that the facility is using the lot as an overflow site to manage unsold inventory. Reports estimate more than 100 vehicles have accumulated in the space.

Dozens of unsold Tesla Cybertrucks pile up in Michigan shopping center parking lot, irking locals
View attachment 746572

Dozens of unsold Tesla Cybertrucks pile up in Michigan shopping center parking lot, irking locals

Images and videos posted on social media show rows of Cybertrucks lined up at Hunter’s Square shopping center in Farmington Hill.

nypost.com

As a Tesla owner (well, leasor), ive never understood the theory behind the look of the cybertruck. Just a huge error there.

 

[Franklin Pierce]

Trump Drives Dagger Through Heart Of Dems’ EV Mandate​

President Donald Trump signed three bills into law Thursday that will terminate Biden-era rules that effectively allowed California to impose a national electric vehicle (EV) mandate.

The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) under former President Joe Biden approved California’s “Advanced Clean Cars II” plan shortly before the Trump administration assumed power, which would have banned the sale of new gas-powered vehicles in California and numerous other states by 2035. After GOP lawmakers in the House and Senate passed resolutions last month to repeal the authorizations that enabled California to do so, Trump is officially taking a major step toward terminating Democrats’ de facto national EV mandate.

In addition to nullifying the EV mandate for passenger vehicles, Trump signed off on the elimination of regulations that would gradually ban the sale of medium- and heavy-duty diesel vehicles and impose significant tailpipe emissions reductions for trucks.

Trump Drives Dagger Through Heart Of Dems’ EV Mandate

Trump signed three congressional resolutions that will terminate a Biden-era rule that effectively allows California to impose a national EV mandate.

dailycaller.com

 

[LouderVol]

Cargo ship carrying 3,000 new vehicles sinks off Alaska weeks after catching fire

"A large plume of smoke was initially seen at the ship's stern coming from the deck loaded with electric vehicles, the Coast Guard and Zodiac Maritime said at the time"

Somewhere in the Middle East Greta is saying how dare you.

 

[jmacvols1]

A counter argument some make to this video is since EVs do not make mistakes as the guy in the video says, then EVs will not get speeding tickets, parking tickets, no running red lights, no DUIs, etc which would end the need for traffic cops. Some traffic cops can then become pedestrian cops keeping the streets clear of pedestrians (or other objects) from altering the path of EVs.

 

[marcusluvsvols]

A counter argument some make to this video is since EVs do not make mistakes as the guy in the video says, then EVs will not get speeding tickets, parking tickets, no running red lights, no DUIs, etc which would end the need for traffic cops. Some traffic cops can then become pedestrian cops keeping the streets clear of pedestrians (or other objects) from altering the path of EVs.

Yeah but cars do NOT have to be electric to be " self driving " and not make mistakes. They already are close in new cars. Ive driven new Nissan that has adaptive cruise control, self braking, lane assist and warning...its 80% self driving already. Just doesnt navigate itself. It does everything else on its own and is a gas engine with a real transmission not those CVT bullcrap transmissions with all the pulleys and stuff that tear up easily and are very expensive to repair or replace.

Self driving and electric are 2 totally unrelated aspects of cars. Tesla was the 1st car to have the technology so people associate the 2 but they are actually unrelated and entirely separate abilities.

 

[jvol1]

Saturday at the boat ramp, the couple ahead of us were pulling their boat with a Rivian. The guy backed far enough in to get on the boat with his feet dry and had his lady back it the rest of the way in. The problem was her phone wouldn't connect to the truck so she couldn't put it in gear to back it the rest of the way in. 15 minutes before azzhole decided to get off the boat and hand her his phone. So my question is what happens if your phone dies, are you "out of gas"?

Yeah, but evs are just leaders for the keyless entry and start bs. Ice vehicles will get that soon too, which is a shame because it's a problem best solved with less tech. I have backup cr2032 batteries in my car just in case and a backup key fob costs $700. Happily the door locks still have a hidden metal key I can use in a pinch.

 

[kiddiedoc]

Yeah, but evs are just leaders for the keyless entry and start bs. Ice vehicles will get that soon too, which is a shame because it's a problem best solved with less tech. I have backup cr2032 batteries in my car just in case and a backup key fob costs $700. Happily the door locks still have a hidden metal key I can use in a pinch.

The Tesla physical "key" is a credit card, rather than an expensive fob that breaks and runs on battery. If my wallet is with me, my "key" is too, in case I ever lose my phone or it dies.

Aren't basically ALL new-ish cars keyless, anyway?

 

[DinkinFlicka]

Yeah but cars do NOT have to be electric to be " self driving " and not make mistakes. They already are close in new cars. Ive driven new Nissan that has adaptive cruise control, self braking, lane assist and warning...its 80% self driving already. Just doesnt navigate itself. It does everything else on its own and is a gas engine with a real transmission not those CVT bullcrap transmissions with all the pulleys and stuff that tear up easily and are very expensive to repair or replace.

Self driving and electric are 2 totally unrelated aspects of cars. Tesla was the 1st car to have the technology so people associate the 2 but they are actually unrelated and entirely separate abilities.

When did Nissan move away from CVT?

 

[jvol1]

The fob only costs

The Tesla physical "key" is a credit card, rather than an expensive fob that breaks and runs on battery. If my wallet is with me, my "key" is too, in case I ever lose my phone or it dies.

Aren't basically ALL new-ish cars keyless, anyway?

The fob only costs $20. It's the dealers that charge $680 to use their encrypted credential required to modify the car's software to add the new key. Tesla may be better on that front, but still I think you're reliant on access to a tesla dealership if you somehow lose your card and phone to be able to gain access to the car again.

I'm too paranoid to give a third party the kind of control an app on my phone entails. I think elon remotely shut down some criminal's cyber truck at some point. That tesla retains that kind of control over vehicles they dont own bothers me.

Right to repair and/or ownership rights are an issue. Farmers are dealing with this with john Deere currently. Its something people need to think about.

 

[LouderVol]

The fob only costs

The fob only costs $20. It's the dealers that charge $680 to use their encrypted credential required to modify the car's software to add the new key. Tesla may be better on that front, but still I think you're reliant on access to a tesla dealership if you somehow lose your card and phone to be able to gain access to the car again.

I'm too paranoid to give a third party the kind of control an app on my phone entails. I think elon remotely shut down some criminal's cyber truck at some point. That tesla retains that kind of control over vehicles they dont own bothers me.

Right to repair and/or ownership rights are an issue. Farmers are dealing with this with john Deere currently. Its something people need to think about.

The issue is that ALL car companies are doing it, and for more than just EVs. starting at least 5 years ago pretty much any new vehicle is keyless entry and start.

wait until BMW makes braking a subscription service. they can already turn off various functions from your car.