Texas to spend $35-40m on 2025 roster

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NIL will never be capped. If pay-for-play gets legalized then there will be competition between schools trying to keep control (with plenty of money) and schools that are willing to give up control (also with plenty of money). I don't see a process where player costs can come down, really.
 
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2021 they ranked
LouderVol said:
Braves have the 8th largest budget. and spend more than 2x the bottom 7 teams. I don't think they are the example you want to use.
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11th. Thats pretty close to middle of pack. Upper middle but middle. I'll stand by my statement boss. Thanks for trying.
 
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LouderVol said:
Braves have the 8th largest budget. and spend more than 2x the bottom 7 teams. I don't think they are the example you want to use.
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Oh and last 20 years their average rank in payroll is 14.4. So middle of pack.

Like I said, I don't expect us to win it all. Compete every few years and I'm happy. Eff these high school entitled kids who have earned Jack. I still think the school for free is a helluva deal bc I'm still paying my school loans.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Yes. Yes, it is.

You are not acknowledging the escalation of NIL deals and what it means for teams now on the bottom financially. And soon, for teams like UT, more in the middle financially. I think you are not being realistic if you don't see the pattern here.

Teams at the top financially, like Texas, will spend the money, and win, and have more fan support and make more money.

Teams in the middle, like UT, can't keep up. And so will not be able to compete over the long haul, causing fan interest to dwindle. And therefore the $ to decrease.

It won't happen in two years. But unless something is done to get a handle on this, and quickly, it absolutely will happen.
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If it’s going to work long term, there’ll need to be salary caps or luxury taxes to somewhat level the financial playing field. And that presupposes that direct pay hurries up and becomes a thing. Any SEC/B1G team is better positioned than anyone who’s not an SEC/B1G team. But generally, if you’re signing $50M student rosters and no one else is going to approach half that, it won’t take long for the interest to dry up and for it to be obvious that not everyone’s playing the same game. The folks who want this to continue to be a multibillion dollar TV enterprise won’t let it come to that.
 
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ArmchairQB said:
If it’s going to work long term, there’ll need to be salary caps or luxury taxes to somewhat level the financial playing field. And that presupposes that direct pay hurries up and becomes a thing. Any SEC/B1G team is better positioned than anyone who’s not an SEC/B1G team. But generally, if you’re signing $50M student rosters and no one else is going to approach half that, it won’t take long for the interest to dry up and for it to be obvious that not everyone’s playing the same game. The folks who want this to continue to be a multibillion dollar TV enterprise won’t let it come to that.
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That's a good point but I don't know how all of those entities will actually be able to stop this train.
 
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lawgator1 said:
That's a good point but I don't know how all of those entities will actually be able to stop this train.
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It’ll be a spectacular train wreck. The TV revenue is a lot but it’s still finite. And universities still have Title IX obligations and non-revenue sports to offer. Semipro teams in Knoxville and Gainesville that aren’t college teams in historic conferences aren’t worth squat, comparatively, so it makes sense to stay put even with the financial constraints on how many things the money needs to sustain. It only makes sense if it’s “college ball” with all its accompanying federal law.

So they get paid directly, and the conferences can set wage limits because they have obligations on how the TV money gets spread around. And that’s true of every P4 D1 program.
 
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Gandalf said:
Well that is true.

btw- it is UTex, never UT, even when acknowledging its fakeness. Like never calling it orange, though it looks like they took our beloved Pantone 151C and mixed in dog feces and tried to pass it off as their own, (but I digress lol)
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UTx’s color is Dirt. Call ‘em like I see ‘em.

Edit: UTx is in the post oak savannah region in and around Austin, largely red, yellow, and gray clays atop limestone bedrock. Mix the dust from these clays, and you get UTx “burnt orange.” Dirt.
 
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ArmchairQB said:
It’ll be a spectacular train wreck. The TV revenue is a lot but it’s still finite. And universities still have Title IX obligations and non-revenue sports to offer. Semipro teams in Knoxville and Gainesville that aren’t college teams in historic conferences aren’t worth squat, comparatively, so it makes sense to stay put even with the financial constraints on how many things the money needs to sustain. It only makes sense if it’s “college ball” with all its accompanying federal law.

So they get paid directly, and the conferences can set wage limits because they have obligations on how the TV money gets spread around. And that’s true of every P4 D1 program.
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I still maintain that some schools will simply abandon football. Thinking in particular of Kentucky. They are better off spending their NIL $ on basketball. They'll never be competitive in football. So shut that down and convert the land where the football stadium used to be into dorms or other facilities.
 
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lawgator1 said:
I still maintain that some schools will simply abandon football. Thinking in particular of Kentucky. They are better off spending their NIL $ on basketball. They'll never be competitive in football. So shut that down and convert the land where the football stadium used to be into dorms or other facilities.
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Idk about Kentucky, but I definitely see a lot of G5 and below schools closing their football programs down in the next 5-10 years. Places like UAB aren’t going to be able to afford to keep up for much longer, and I think they’ll just say screw this and give up sooner or later.

Can’t really see very many P5 programs doing that though, at least as long as there’s hope they can still be brought along when the super league inevitably happens. Even programs like Kansas are investing into their football program these days. And no SEC or B10 program will stop playing football unless they get kicked out.
 
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lawgator1 said:
I still maintain that some schools will simply abandon football. Thinking in particular of Kentucky. They are better off spending their NIL $ on basketball. They'll never be competitive in football. So shut that down and convert the land where the football stadium used to be into dorms or other facilities.
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Football is the big money maker even at middling sports schools like Troy and Bowling Green. They're not going to kill that cash cow.

Example - Troy made around $33 million annually on their football program the last time I checked.
 
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Rememberthelate90s said:
They did in 2021. That was the ship year dog
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Isn't that the only year they've won an NL pennant since 2000? They've only played for the pennant a few times in the last 20 years.

They're not "top end" successful as a low spending MLB franchise. They usually have the big spender Dodgers or Giants beating them IF they get in the hunt.

The Braves aren't THAT successful running on mid level budget. They're....... mid level usually.
 
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Gonna have to be caps and unions etc. This is why a team like KC can compete and beat teams like Dallas.

Without a cap in college OSU, TX and the huge schools will be unstoppable.
 
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NEO said:
This is why a team like KC can compete and beat teams like Dallas.
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To be totally fair, if Jerry Jones was able to freely spend his money, he’d just refuse to spend it and say he’s “all in” anyway

But I get your point
 
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lawgator1 said:
As good a point as any. Saudi money can drive NIL deals just as much as can money from Pilot gas stations.

Imagine a LIV tour for college football....
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At that point I check out for good. I don’t watch LIV Golf and haven’t thought about any of those players. Out of sight, out of mind.
 
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Gandalf said:
Report: Texas football spending unprecedented money on 2025 roster

Vol faithful, if this is not complete BS, how are we going to compete in this new era? We know OSU spent some $25m+ on their nat champ winning roster and now we see this. Then I see people talking about us spending somewhere between $10-12m this year.

I get discount shopping but seriously, how do we compete if this kind of money is being thrown around?

Yes, money alone does not a great program or record make BUT lets be honest, if the top 5 programs are all spending above $20m a year and most are in our own league, how can we recruit without making the economics of going to a game completely out of reach (or is it already?).
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I'd highly recommend you and all of your friends donate if you want to compete at the highest level. Money doesn't just come from no where. www.thevolunteerclub.com
 
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