The Deportation of Kilmar Armando Abrego Garcia

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Vol8188 said:
Mota=common Spanish slang for marijuana

Sonrie=smile

So yes, the M and the S still work.

You could’ve simply googled that
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There are a lot of words for weed, hierba is just as common as mota if not more so. I bet that came up on your Google search and you decided to cover up that dishonesty with attempted condescension instead
 
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NashVol11 said:
That has nothing to do with my question. Are the M, S, 1, and 3 actually on his hand, or were they - wait for it - Photoshopped in? That was the discussion around Trump's idiotic interview
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It wasn't "photoshopped" it was translating or decoding the tattoo for those not hip to gang culture..... Basically 99.5% of us.

Trump is an idiot and spoke faster than his mind. He should have said the translation is in black and white for everyone to read.

He isn't an innocent, he's at best a gang affiliate of some type or a member at worst.
 
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NashVol11 said:
There are a lot of words for weed, hierba is just as common as mota if not more so. I bet that came up on your Google search and you decided to cover up that dishonesty with attempted condescension instead
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So the most common word does start with an M and you knew that?

Why even ask the question unless your goal was to waste time?

Once again, only one of us in this conversation is being dishonest. And it’s the guy who refused to admit that the man is most likely an MS-13 member.
 
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The document, reviewed by Fox News Digital, alleges that his wife accused him of verbal and physical abuse against her and mental abuse against her children. The petition for protection form filed in Maryland by Jennifer Vasquez Sura has boxes checked for "acts of abuse," including kicking, slapping, shoving, mental injury of a child and detaining against will.

On Aug. 11, 2020, Vasquez Sura asked for the petition to be rescinded, saying her family wanted to take part in their son's birthday, and Abrego Garcia "also agreed to continue counseling and if not [he's] willing to sign divorce papers."

The original petition form lists their son and Abrego Garcia’s stepchildren needing protection.

It says on Aug. 3, 2020, that her "husband took [her] phone around 1:00 a.m., and in the morning he wanted to take my car, but I told him I was going to go out with my kids. He then got angry. I went upstairs to make food for my kids but he turned off the stove."

In addition, the form said Abrego Garcia had threatened her and wrote that she has a recording in which he "told [her] ex-mother-in-law that even if he kills me no one can do anything to him."

The form also describes an incident in November 2019 when he grabbed her "by the hair in the car." In December 2019, he allegedly grabbed her hair in the car and "dragged" her "out of car leaving [her] in the street." She wrote that he also "broke" her son’s tablet, "broke doors" in the house, pushed her against a wall, broke a phone and a television and damaged the walls that spring.

In the filing, written in Vasquez’s handwriting, she alleges Abrego Garcia repeatedly beat her, writing, "At this point, I am afraid to be close to him. I have multiple photos/videos of how violent he can be and all the bruises he [has] left me."

Vasquez alleged that Abrego Garcia punched and scratched her eye, leaving her bleeding. He also allegedly threw her laptop on the floor. She wrote that, on another day, Abrego Garcia got angry again, started yelling and ripped her shirt and shorts off before grabbing her arm and leaving marks.

In addition to this, according to police and court records shared with Fox News Digital, Abrego Garcia was arrested in Hyattsville, Maryland, in October 2019, at which point he was identified by the Prince George's County Police Gang Unit as an MS-13 gang member.

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'I am afraid': Another protective order filing against deported ‘Maryland man’ championed by Dems surfaces

Abrego Garcia, 29, a Salvadoran illegal and suspected MS-13 gang member, was living in Maryland until he was deported to the Terrorist Confinement Center in his home country.
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KB5252 said:
It wasn't "photoshopped" it was translating or decoding the tattoo for those not hip to gang culture..... Basically 99.5% of us.

Trump is an idiot and spoke faster than his mind. He should have said the translation is in black and white for everyone to read.

He isn't an innocent, he's at best a gang affiliate of some type or a member at worst.
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"Translating" by...inserting additional characters...into a photo...means not Photoshopped lol. Got it.

He didn't speak faster than his mind. He wasn't referring to a translation or interpretation - he specifically said "NOT 'interpreted'" in response to that. People will defend anything he does
 
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NashVol11 said:
"Translating" by...inserting additional characters...into a photo...means not Photoshopped lol. Got it.

He didn't speak faster than his mind. He wasn't referring to a translation or interpretation - he specifically said "NOT 'interpreted'" in response to that. People will defend anything he does
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I haven't heard it. I'm going by the picture. The letters above the tattoos are translating the characters/tattoos. We've already established Trump is an idiot.

Your insistence that the m s 1 3 are photoshopped to make it look like additional tattoo rather than the translation of the characters of the tattoo is difficult for me to process.
 
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KB5252 said:
I haven't heard it. I'm going by the picture. The letters above the tattoos are translating the characters/tattoos. We've already established Trump is an idiot.

Your insistence that the m s 1 3 are photoshopped to make it look like additional tattoo rather than the translation of the characters of the tattoo is difficult for me to process.
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What do you mean you haven't heard it? The clip is in this thread. Trump was saying that he had the actual characters M,S,1,3 on his hand and the reporter said that was photoshopped, which is not at all inaccurate
 
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rekinhavoc said:
No that isn't the picture Graham held up in the article.


"Based on your time and experience and expertise in the DEA, what does that photo or those markings suggest to you?" he asked.

"Well, they suggest that he's an MS-13 member – that those are his markings. That's his brand."

When asked what the leaf on his first knuckle stood for, Cole said it was marijuana, which starts with "M." The second finger was a "smiley face," he said, which starts with "S," followed by the number "1" and what "looks like a backwards 3, from here."

"So based on your time as a DEA agent in the field, particularly in Mexico, these tattoos are consistent with MS-13 associations," Graham asked."Yes sir, that's correct," Cole replied.
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This ain't worth ****. He might be right. Or he might be the zillionth LEO over-stating his case. I need more proof.

Y'all act like you were born yesterday.
 
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KB5252 said:
I haven't heard it. I'm going by the picture. The letters above the tattoos are translating the characters/tattoos. We've already established Trump is an idiot.

Your insistence that the m s 1 3 are photoshopped to make it look like additional tattoo rather than the translation of the characters of the tattoo is difficult for me to process.
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It’s cause you’re stupid..it’s not even a good photoshopped pic. Some of you would thrive in North Korea.
 
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TERRY MORAN: He -- he did not have the letters M-S-one-three

PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: Don't do that -- M-S-1-3 -- It says M-S-one-three.

TERRY MORAN: I -- that was Photoshop. So let me just--
 
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Sin City Vol said:
It’s cause you’re stupid..it’s not even a good photoshopped pic. Some of you would thrive in North Korea.
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It was such a bad photoshop that I felt stupid for thinking ICE was trying to sneak one past me. They just failed to indicate they were labeling the tattoo. That was their mistake. Somehow, that tricked Trump. He's pathetically incapable.

To the guys here who own a business that you have built into something meaningful...would you hand the keys over to Trump? How much would you pay for his consulting services? 😆
 
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NashVol11 said:
What do you mean you haven't heard it? The clip is in this thread. Trump was saying that he had the actual characters M,S,1,3 on his hand and the reporter said that was photoshopped, which is not at all inaccurate
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Ok, Trump is an idiot, that's not what the letters above the tattoo were..... This is well established at this point.

The photo itself, it's obvious the letters m s 1 3 are translating the tattoo for public consumption. Your insistence it was photoshopped to look like a real tattoo as Trump stated and therefore discredits the meaning of the tattoo is as absurd as Trump's statement.
 
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KB5252 said:
Ok, Trump is an idiot, that's not what the letters above the tattoo were..... This is well established at this point.

The photo itself, it's obvious the letters m s 1 3 are translating the tattoo for public consumption. Your insistence it was photoshopped to look like a real tattoo as Trump stated and therefore discredits the meaning of the tattoo is as absurd as Trump's statement.
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"Your insistence" and then it's a bunch of s*** you made up yourself. The M, S, 1, 3 was photoshopped in. This is not complicated and what the reporter said was not wrong
 
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n_huffhines said:
It was such a bad photoshop that I felt stupid for thinking ICE was trying to sneak one past me. They just failed to indicate they were labeling the tattoo. That was their mistake. Somehow, that tricked Trump. He's pathetically incapable.

To the guys here who own a business that you have built into something meaningful...would you hand the keys over to Trump? How much would you pay for his consulting services? 😆
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It didn't fool Trump, it's semantics. The translation tells you what it says. Trump is just an idiot and horrible communicator. Your insistence on avoiding the obvious is as baffling as Trump...... Well almost.
 
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KB5252 said:
It didn't fool Trump, it's semantics. The translation tells you what it says. Trump is just an idiot and horrible communicator. Your insistence on avoiding the obvious is as baffling as Trump...... Well almost.
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It clearly fooled him. The reporter kept giving him a chance to say they could be "interpreted" that way, and he kept stopping to say no, it says M, S, one, three on his hand. "Not 'interpreted.'" You should watch the clip if you haven't
 
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NashVol11 said:
"Your insistence" and then it's a bunch of s*** you made up yourself. The M, S, 1, 3 was photoshopped in. This is not complicated and what the reporter said was not wrong
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I'm not arguing that. At all. You know what that tattoo means and can't admit it because it runs counter to the narrative you've pushed this entire time.

That Trump deported an innocent family man and not a gang affiliate.
 
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NashVol11 said:
It clearly fooled him. The reporter kept giving him a chance to say they could be "interpreted" that way, and he kept stopping to say no, it says M, S, one, three on his hand. "Not 'interpreted.'" You should watch the clip if you haven't
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You know as well as I do Trump will never admit he misspoke or was wrong about anything in any way. You are bring every bit as silly as Trump at this point.
 
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KB5252 said:
You know as well as I do Trump will never admit he misspoke or was wrong about anything in any way. You are bring every bit as silly as Trump at this point.
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I think you are reading in a "I know it doesn't say what I'm repeatedly, forcefully, claiming it says, I'm just pretending" into Trump's answer, which is probably the silliest thing of all but very charitable of you
 
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KB5252 said:
I'm not arguing that. At all. You know what that tattoo means and can't admit it because it runs counter to the narrative you've pushed this entire time.

That Trump deported an innocent family man and not a gang affiliate.
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Where are you finding proof that the tattoo means that? An LEO has said it means that. He has not demonstrated that it means that.

The inconvenient thing about America is that the burden of proof is on the accuser and the accused is supposed to get due process. Trump is so stupid he thought it said MS-13, and this is the kind of information he's using to make decisions that skirt due process.

Stop defending terrible government and defend the constitution.
 
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Sin City Vol said:
It’s cause you’re stupid..it’s not even a good photoshopped pic. Some of you would thrive in North Korea.
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My God, how dense are you?

That tattoo is all over the place in his pictures, the tattoo exists. The translation is simple, the MS13 in the photo, above the tattoo itself is just the translation of the tattoo.

There is no "Photoshop" just the translation of the tattoo.
 
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