Recruiting Football Talk VIII

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SoilVol said:
Yes, those two picks have been highly graded and commended, as is signing Restrepo as an UDFA. But nobody has rated their draft highly across the board, and the metrics don't either. That's not a narrative, that's just what happened.
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It's the same every year. Draft grades are determined by draft "value". And value means picking the players the media pundits have ranked high, that the rest of the NFL has ranked low. So to buy into draft grades, you have to buy into the idea that Mel Kiper and Todd McShay aren't monkies throwing darts at a board like everyone else.

Any team that wants could get a draft A+ just by taking whoever the BPA is on Mel Kiper's board. And that team would be terrible every year.

Did you address your needs and avoid doing obvious dumb **** like using a top 10 pick on a guard. Grading beyond that is pointless, because the grades are laughably inaccurate in retrospect. Just have to see how it plays out.
 
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SoilVol said:
I haven't seen anyone who thinks it's a great class. I don't think it's a bad class. I think it's a good/decent class. This is long-winded, but when am I not?

They reached on Dike but got bailed out by still getting the Stanford WR. Helm and the Sac State G were good picks.

The biggest criticism is with the 2nd - 4th picks. UCLA edge is a project. High ceiling but not proven. That's a risky pick when you need him to come in and replace Landry. The Penn State S has injury concerns and is a risk. Again, high reward and great value pick for the 3rd (I think he will be a stud). Dike, total reach. He played a lot of college football and never broke out as a major contributor. Drafted on speed.

None of them are inherently bad, but it feels like a lot of risks and projects were taken. Stuff you have a luxury to do when the team is successful and stable like the Chiefs have been (where the new GM came from) but idk about where the Titans are at.

But I'm not a GM and they'll probably all make me look dumb. I'm just fighting Battered Titan Draft Syndrome.
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Point is the front office used its frontal lobe. Did homework, look at its needs, and got who they wanted. Cam Ward is a good QB. Not the best, but good. Is a good get.
 
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PlanetVolunteer said:
The Ayomanor guy, I think we were all commenting here on him dominating Travis Hunter when they matched up. Mossed him all day.
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I can't believe he dropped to the Titans after they drafted Dike. I even posted here Friday night that I thought they should take him at that Dike pick (pun)
 
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Ten_Titans said:
It's the same every year. Draft grades are determined by draft "value". And value means picking the players the media pundits have ranked high, that the rest of the NFL has ranked low. So to buy into draft grades, you have to buy into the idea that Mel Kiper and Todd McShay aren't monkies throwing darts at a board like everyone else.

Any team that wants could get a draft A+ just by taking whoever the BPA is on Mel Kiper's board. And that team would be terrible every year.

Did you address your needs and avoid doing obvious dumb **** like using a top 10 pick on a guard. Grading beyond that is pointless, because the grades are laughably inaccurate in retrospect. Just have to see how it plays out.
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This is all true, and I largely ignore the Kiper and McShay stuff. But when guys that cover the Titans are even going "eh, this is a bit of a project/reach" that's concerning.

Its over now, hope every one of them balls out.
 
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MarcoVol said:
Through 43 games….

#3 in the country in ERA
#2 in the country in WHIP
#1 in the country in K-BB ratio
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You mean to tell me people here that moaned and groaned about pitching last year, are still moaning and groaning about pitching this year?!

It’s almost like they don’t know a lick about baseball lol
 
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Ace said:
This is the catch all thread for the Recruiting Forum entitled Football Talk. Individual recruits have their own threads, but this thread covers general football talk and Vol sports of all kinds. This thread is where General information about UT and sports gets discussed. Glad you are here.
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You forgot to mention booze. We (me) like to talk about booze!!
 
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mrMet said:
You mean to tell me people here that moaned and groaned about pitching last year, are still moaning and groaning about pitching this year?!

It’s almost like they don’t know a lick about baseball lol
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Saw a kid grow up on the mound. I talked about upper class leadership, and needing to find that guy last week. Team struggled to rebound from miscues in their losses. Pitching has been pretty solid, with exception of Tamu losses.

Last night saw a 5'7" dude showing emotion to first baseman, on opposing team. LSU had won an emotional game night before, their players were pointing to shirts and being disrespectful. Ariel showed that fire. Team fed off it.

Last night was a big turning point for MO. Phillips had a gritty performance. Got out of some bad situations.

The bats came around after a helluva bunt. I hope they grew up last night.
 
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Jackcrevol said:
Saw a kid grow up on the mound. I talked about upper class leadership, and needing to find that guy last week. Team struggled to rebound from miscues in their losses. Pitching has been pretty solid, with exception of Tamu losses.

Last night saw a 5'7" dude showing emotion to first baseman, on opposing team. LSU had won an emotional game night before, their players were pointing to shirts and being disrespectful. Ariel showed that fire. Team fed off it.

Last night was a big turning point for MO. Phillips had a gritty performance. Got out of some bad situations.

The bats came around after a helluva bunt. I hope they grew up last night.
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This isn’t just “pretty solid” btw

#3 in the country in ERA
#2 in the country in WHIP
#1 in the country in K-BB ratio

I’m not sure what kinda expectations y’all put on the staff but c’mon now
 
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mrMet said:
You mean to tell me people here that moaned and groaned about pitching last year, are still moaning and groaning about pitching this year?!

It’s almost like they don’t know a lick about baseball lol
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Is that the game individuals play with gloves and on a diamond shaped field? Teach me your knowledge Sensai.....
 
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MarcoVol said:
This isn’t just “pretty solid” btw

#3 in the country in ERA
#2 in the country in WHIP
#1 in the country in K-BB ratio

I’m not sure what kinda expectations y’all put on the staff but c’mon now
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You're talking YTD team stats.

I was talking about an individual players performance on road vs LSU.

Using that as a lens to agree with you.
 
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DD4ME said:




Pretty common to be low when you have #1. Also apparently some think you could have gotten Oladejo later. Idk. Looks like you guys didn't sweat a fancy plan and took who you liked. Conviction can be positive.
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Took high character guys that love football. The FO touted that was their strategy since hiring Borgonzi
 
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HoleInTheRoof said:


Six SEC teams on this list. Probably more than that had more guys than us drafted.

Which is crazy. How did we make the playoffs with such a lack of nfl talent? Because if you think about it - I’m not sure we’re set up to have many guys selected next year either.
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I think Huepel is an excellent coach and excellent at doing more with less. Imagine how good it would be if we had talent at least on par with Ole Miss and LSU.
 
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SoilVol said:
I can't believe he dropped to the Titans after they drafted Dike. I even posted here Friday night that I thought they should take him at that Dike pick (pun)
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Dike I don't get, otherwise I see why they took the others. Would have drafted a WR higher had they not gotten Lockett.

No idea why Ayomanor wasn't considered one of the top guys. Injuries? One shining moment against Travis Hunter?
 
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MrVolton said:
I think Huepel is an excellent coach and excellent at doing more with less. Imagine how good it would be if we had talent at least on par with Ole Miss and LSU.
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Agreed .It also helped that we had a very manageable schedule, just like we will this year too. I'd imagine it will be pretty rough after this year. No Ole Miss,Texas,LSU, Auburn,S.Carol or Mizzou. We know we will get Texas the next 2 seasons after this upcoming one. But our easier games fall off. Bettiing 26 and 27 could be brutal schedules.
 
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Volnut said:


Bull talks a lot about how we aren't getting porthole players because of lack of money. I thought Spyre was the cream of the crop NIL collective. What's going on?
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The money is there, they just have to ask for it and be willing to spend it.

We just spent multiple millions signing a high school basketball player. You can’t tell me boosters will pony up for that, but not for football players at a football-first school.
 
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