Aguilar's experience vs his passing yards totals

[Vol_knuckles]

 

[barney]

people have talked a lot about Aguilar's passing numbers last year but man he was clubbing some baby seals. here is App States schedule last year (by the way they went 5-6)

East TN State
Clemson
East Carolina
South Alabama
Marshall
Louisiana
Georgia St
Old Dominion
Coastal
James Madison
Georgia Southern

So you may want to zoom in on the one game he actually played against a quality opponent (25th ranked Clemson)

Aguilar was 18 of 41 passing 43% with 1 TD

unfortunately there are no other reliable data points from 2024 as the remainder of their schedule was abismal. however you can go back to 2023 where he threw for even more yards. let's look at that schedule..

North Carolina
East Carolina
Wyoming
Louisiana Monroe
Coastal
Old Dominion
Southern Miss
Marshall
Georgia State
James Madison
Georgia Southern
Troy
Miami (OH)

again kind of a carbon copy of 2024 with only one power 5 opponent where he completed 51% of his passes against North Carolina, not bad but they still lost and North Carolina is not really a good power 5 opponent, but I guess my biggest fear is he has not much real experience against power 5 teams, let alone GOOD power 5 teams.

I really worry about him being able to produce against really good competition, not that I think he can't, but there's no proof he can. all those passing yards but not against quality teams. Nico had amazing numbers against crappy non conference teams and then the SEC schedule started and we could barely score.

granted Aguilar should have higher quality players around him at Tennessee but I wish he had a bit more experience against big boy football teams so I felt better about his passing production.

the clemson game is a red herring. they were down 28-0 by the beginning of the second quarter. Not only did Aguilar play with few weapons on offense but he also had one of the worst defenses in the country giving up nearly 33 points per game on average. I don't think you can make too many judgements about his game without those big caveats about last years team.

 

[Volanta]

the clemson game is a red herring. they were down 28-0 by the beginning of the second quarter. Not only did Aguilar play with few weapons on offense but he also had one of the worst defenses in the country giving up nearly 33 points per game on average. I don't think you can make too many judgements about his game without those big caveats about last years team.

I dont see why folks arent pumped about this signing.

 

[FanDude]

Time for Aguilar to take his game to a higher level. I do not know why Coach chose him, but he did so we shall see how good this guy can be.

 

[RockyTop140]

You’re grading only the qb against superior teams. His wide receivers were likely getting smothered, O line pancaked, etc.

 

[Carl Pickens]

 

[TheDirector]

people have talked a lot about Aguilar's passing numbers last year but man he was clubbing some baby seals. here is App States schedule last year (by the way they went 5-6)

East TN State
Clemson
East Carolina
South Alabama
Marshall
Louisiana
Georgia St
Old Dominion
Coastal
James Madison
Georgia Southern

So you may want to zoom in on the one game he actually played against a quality opponent (25th ranked Clemson)

Aguilar was 18 of 41 passing 43% with 1 TD

unfortunately there are no other reliable data points from 2024 as the remainder of their schedule was abismal. however you can go back to 2023 where he threw for even more yards. let's look at that schedule..

North Carolina
East Carolina
Wyoming
Louisiana Monroe
Coastal
Old Dominion
Southern Miss
Marshall
Georgia State
James Madison
Georgia Southern
Troy
Miami (OH)

again kind of a carbon copy of 2024 with only one power 5 opponent where he completed 51% of his passes against North Carolina, not bad but they still lost and North Carolina is not really a good power 5 opponent, but I guess my biggest fear is he has not much real experience against power 5 teams, let alone GOOD power 5 teams.

I really worry about him being able to produce against really good competition, not that I think he can't, but there's no proof he can. all those passing yards but not against quality teams. Nico had amazing numbers against crappy non conference teams and then the SEC schedule started and we could barely score.

granted Aguilar should have higher quality players around him at Tennessee but I wish he had a bit more experience against big boy football teams so I felt better about his passing production.

The other way to look at it is Aguilar threw for over 200 yards against Clemson's defense with App States WRs and OLine. Nico only broke 200 yards twice in SEC competition and he had way better WRs and OLine.

 

[Clad in Big Orange]

He brought in for depth, not too start

Why some people have a hard time understanding this, I don’t know. We were in a bad situation and needed a 3rd QB capable of competing with the other two. They can all push each other and one will emerge as the best option. GM needs to redshirt and now he likely can if the other two stay healthy. We were never going to be in position to pull in a top tier QB at this date.

 

[OrangeBeachVol]

He brought in for depth, not too start

He will be given the opportunity to win the starting job as he should be. He would not have come otherwise.

 

[Tennman]

Aguilar has many interceptions, ok, yes thats a red flag, however Coach Heup's QB's don't throw a lot of interceptions. If so , they don't play. Different offense, different routes, good coaching leds to accurate throws and successful QB play. The QB whisperer will do fine with his new student. Watch and enjoy. I do wish he could be here prior to mid june however

 

[barney]

this settles the debate in my mind.

 

[rocketskates]

this is correct. and the guy that UCLA just kicked to the curb because they thought our asshat was a better QB is now coming here lol

Aguilar through TWENTY FOUR interception against horrible defenses in 2 seasons. averaging an interception every game.

Our asshat through just 5 interceptions against elite competition with pretty mediocre wide receivers.

Also, Aguilar was sacked just 15 times last year while Nico was sacked 28 times. the defense is brutal in the SEC especially for a guy that throws as much as Aguilar. I wonder how many 3 interception games he will have if he gets to start.

I'm telling you, this guy has never been tested against real competition.

but that's just my opinion, soon enough we will be forced to see.

I get what you’re saying, but also Nico was surrounded by talent and put up big numbers in blowouts against lesser competition. Joey was surrounded by 2 stars so we can’t really judge him until we see how he performs on a better team.

But he may not even win the starting job. We will see.

 

[rocketskates]

I’m not sure where to put this, but it look like Tennessee looked seriously at Steve Angeli. Now he appears to be going ti Syracuse. Does the irony never end? I I’m curious if anyone has any insight as why the staff did not pursue him more intensely? Was it money, or that they just didn’t think he was a fit?

Rumor that I heard was that Angeli wanted a guarantee that he would be QB1 and that turned the staff off to him.

 

[SayUWantAreVOLution]

I get what you’re saying, but also Nico was surrounded by talent and put up big numbers in blowouts against lesser competition. Joey was surrounded by 2 stars so we can’t really judge him until we see how he performs on a better team.

But he may not even win the starting job. We will see.

It's the interceptions.

He was throwing against 2* secondaries. They picked him off quite a bit.

That's not a matter of the talent around you, that's you deciding not to throw it in the first row but throwing into bad situations. That's a QBs decision making. If it's bad against 2* DBs, it's going to catastrophic against SEC talent.

 

[C-south]

it's not hard but passing against good defenses is not the same thing no matter how level the competition is. he will be exposed to things he's never seen before and so his ability to scramble and pass against those teams is not comparable.

How do we ever recruit anyone out of high school?

 

[Voltrapnbama]

At the end of the day, experienced QBs do well with Hype. There is a reason for that. He will be good for that reason alone. He will see things that freshmen and true freshmen cannot.

 

[Voltrapnbama]

It's the interceptions.

He was throwing against 2* secondaries. They picked him off quite a bit.

That's not a matter of the talent around you, that's you deciding not to throw it in the first row but throwing into bad situations. That's a QBs decision making. If it's bad against 2* DBs, it's going to catastrophic against SEC talent.

Book marking this one.

 

[Voltrapnbama]

It's the interceptions.

He was throwing against 2* secondaries. They picked him off quite a bit.

That's not a matter of the talent around you, that's you deciding not to throw it in the first row but throwing into bad situations. That's a QBs decision making. If it's bad against 2* DBs, it's going to catastrophic against SEC talent.

Also, how many interceptions thrown while under the mindset of having to make a play instead of just playing the game? And if you down 14+ every first qtr and don’t try to do what you can to win, I wouldn’t want you anyway.

 

[SayUWantAreVOLution]

Also, how many interceptions thrown while under the mindset of having to make a play instead of just playing the game? And if you down 14+ every first qtr and don’t try to do what you can to win, I wouldn’t want you anyway.

I don't consider the Clemson game relevant. He threw 2 interceptions in several Sun Belt games.

Using Clemson against him is unfair but look at the other games in 2024, he took few sacks but threw plenty of interceptions.

You CAN bookmark it. I believe he throws the ball into traffic and I believe the SEC defenses will punish him for it.

 

[cgrish]

Why some people have a hard time understanding this, I don’t know. We were in a bad situation and needed a 3rd QB capable of competing with the other two. They can all push each other and one will emerge as the best option. GM needs to redshirt and now he likely can if the other two stay healthy. We were never going to be in position to pull in a top tier QB at this date.

Only problem I have is if there is no qb competition in practice. Like just giving him the starting role regardless of how the other two do. It appears by espn and other talk shows that Joey is going to be the starter.

 

[rocketskates]

It's the interceptions.

He was throwing against 2* secondaries. They picked him off quite a bit.

That's not a matter of the talent around you, that's you deciding not to throw it in the first row but throwing into bad situations. That's a QBs decision making. If it's bad against 2* DBs, it's going to catastrophic against SEC talent.

I hear ya. Statistically Heupel’s offense limits interceptions by design. Hopefully it works out for this kid. We will see.

 

[SayUWantAreVOLution]

I hear ya. Statistically Heupel’s offense limits interceptions by design. Hopefully it works out for this kid. We will see.

I hope he does well also and I think Fall will let him see how quick our secondary is and adjust.

Who knows. He could pick up the reads and hit the open man easily. Lord knows he had no protection last year so if we give him a little time, he may be great at picking the right throw.

 

[zeppelin128]

If I have to hear about the damn Clemson game one more time….

I'm about to the point of checking out of the football forum until like August.

 

[UTFranklinVol]

The other way to look at it is Aguilar threw for over 200 yards against Clemson's defense with App States WRs and OLine. Nico only broke 200 yards twice in SEC competition and he had way better WRs and OLine.

everyone keeps saying Aguilar had a bad OL and WRs, but what were people saying about Tennessee last year? The same thing!

speaking of OL, Aguilar was sacked 15 times and Nico was sacked nearly DOUBLE that many times..

so to say that Aguilar is just going to get to play with all these "better" players around him is kind of a weak argument becase the SEC defenses are also much much better which never bodes well for a "gun slinger" QB especially if he's going to face the same situation as Nico can get sacked 28 times.

 

[901 Orange]

this is correct. and the guy that UCLA just kicked to the curb because they thought our asshat was a better QB is now coming here lol

Aguilar through TWENTY FOUR interception against horrible defenses in 2 seasons. averaging an interception every game.

Our asshat through just 5 interceptions against elite competition with pretty mediocre wide receivers.

Also, Aguilar was sacked just 15 times last year while Nico was sacked 28 times. the defense is brutal in the SEC especially for a guy that throws as much as Aguilar. I wonder how many 3 interception games he will have if he gets to start.

I'm telling you, this guy has never been tested against real competition.

but that's just my opinion, soon enough we will be forced to see.

Our asshat only threw 5 ints because our HC was smart enough to take the ball out of his hands. If UCLA cant run the ball they're screwed. JA ain't throwing 40 times a game here. We're a run first team. As far as the sack comparison, the asshat was a baby so a lot of his sacks come from holding the ball too long. It's probably the biggest reason that the "Vet QB"(JA) took nearly half as many sacks. I think we should take the wait and see approach. Quick example would be Bo Nix. I didn't think he was a very good QB at Auburn. He went to a different system and looked like a completely different QB.