Recruiting Football Talk VIII

[Orange.]

we had a significant advantage by being the first program with a legitimate NIL collective and operation

we were first to the table in a major way, and had an opportunity for it to be a big differentiator for us, but now everyone has caught up to us. as mentioned, some have passed us

That's it.

Now, Nico hurt us -- not by leaving. I mean that if he had gone gangbusters last year we would be roiling hot.

The more I think about it in retrospect, no wonder Nico looked scatterbrained on the field: Look at what he was surrounded by every day on the phone and in person after games and when he went home. I imagine Nico was told every day how much the school was holding him back, yelled at after games for every little thing, and constantly ranted to about how his coaches were to blame.

Heupel meanwhile has done so well that a lot of people (not you) forget that he walked into a flaming dumpster. He has turned us around better and faster than almost anyone expected. Now we need successful players in the NFL. But it is hard to recruit those guys if you don't already have those guys. Tough to break through. A Nico who had played like we hoped he would last year and this coming year, then moved to the league as one of the top draft picks was supposed to be that guy for our offensive recruiting.

I still think it will happen. And it's weird (but now normal for us) to be talking about such a thing when coming off 30 wins in 3 seasons, making the playoffs, 2 NY6 bowl wins, and 2 wins in 3 years over Bama (3 straight if we hadn't been robbed in Birmingham). Just shows how quickly Heupel has changed our program and our outlook.

I do think, as I said earlier, that compared to our competition, football may actually be the laggard at UT in NIL terms. I hope we get a big influx soon. And that we have a great year. I'm anything but giving up on this year.

 

[Devo182]

Still TBD if it'll definitely be a problem.

Japan will let us know very soon how this scenario plays out. Then Europe and SK. Robotics will help ease in a way it couldn't have had this occurred across the globe 100 years ago. Now...the economic balancing act will be interesting to watch. And Japan should be a "worst-case" scenario, at least with respect to their very low immigration rate. They haven't given themselves an "out" outside of being a country of savers and high tech...will be quite a thing to witness and track over the next couple decades.

The US is actually in a favorable position compared to much of the western world, due to the potential for immigration rates netting out the sub-2.1 replacement rate (last I saw was 1.6) domestically.

Analysis of the Census Bureau figures:

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[drvenner]

From Will West and Off The Hook Sports, Tennessee is just not on the same level with NIL cash regarding Big 10 teams. Welp, that's not good given that $$$$ now is a big factor on who wins.

You cannot seriously believe either of those two numbnuts. Come on.

 

[JohnnyD1024]

If we can't get a sitting starter from another school, here's a possible option for the experienced back up route

 

[utkevdawg1]

Next time your wife is angry, drape a towel over her shoulders like a cape and say...“Now you're Super Angry!”

@drvenner is over here trying to get men murdered.

 

[drvenner]

@drvenner is over here trying to get men murdered.

I am still recovering. It was worth it, though.

 

[JohnnyD1024]

Did anyone know that former Michigan and Iowa QB Cade McNamara transferred to ETSU back in January?

 

[KB5252]

Where I'm at with the QB search. I don't think the Notre Dame guy in portal fits our offense really well. I'd almost rather bring in a non power 4 guy who's a better fit and has the tools if not the resume.

Not sure who that would be, but let him battle with Merk and Mac. seems we have shot high but this late in the game its hard to pull successful players from their current situations.

Billy High certainly has a challenging situation to navigate.

 

[Checker_the_Shire]

Did anyone know that former Michigan and Iowa QB Cade McNamara transferred to ETSU back in January?

Yep, the ETSU fans in my area were ecstatic.

 

[Adam Sandler]

I am still recovering. It was worth it, though.

 

[PlanetVolunteer]

If we can't get a sitting starter from another school, here's a possible option for the experienced back up route


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Passssssss. just get Angeli

 

[GVol1966]

Tom Brady wasn't a 5* recruit or even a high 4* .

Brady was considered a 3* or borderline 4* . Anyhow you would rather 4* and 5* recruits stand on sidelines for 2 years while being recruited over?

Really doesn't matter either way. You don't want them to play and I prefer them to play. Odds are neither one of us will change our stance. Agree to disagree..

Yeah I don’t really care about stars.
Some of y’all think stars equal results.

I want a QB that’s ready and can get positive results.

Manning set for 2 years at Texas unless QB1 was hurt. Why still learning and getting to where he needs to be.

95% of true freshman aren’t ready, Sophs drop % wise but I’d say it’s still more than 50%.
Nebraska and Florida had 2 of the top freshman last year.
They played but were either really ready?
No they both struggled at times even though they are really the exception to the 95%.
I’d love for GMac or Merk to be the guy but I doubt either are ready and would struggle.
We’ll see what Heup does.

 

[DarthVol1]

Did anyone know that former Michigan and Iowa QB Cade McNamara transferred to ETSU back in January?

Yep and Jacolby Criswell from Ark/ UNC is there as well.

 

[jave36]

They are aging everyone up to the age they would be right now

That part is fine, I just mean don't make the characters and the themes and the story telling and the dynamics whacko and zany and extreme. The balance and subtlety and relatability and believability is what made that show so good.

 

[Volnut]

I confirm the Texas part.

Yeah they made Austin into a California city.

 

[screenthis]

You cannot seriously believe either of those two numbnuts. Come on.

What I do believe is that $$$$ are a massive factor now in getting and keeping players. With the Big 10 having a massive TV deal, many more alumni, and some with big time donors, I could see us falling behind.

 

[Cosmo Kramer]

TN to Nico and his Entourage

 

[JohnnyD1024]

He just transferred to UCLA but there is speculation that he might transfer out if UCLA and Nico become official.

 

[JohnnyD1024]

 

[VolFanNC09]

You cannot seriously believe either of those two numbnuts. Come on.

We are spending close to 11mill on Basketball, does anyone seriously think we can’t afford to spend on football? I think it is a matter of could and should. Should we spend 4mill on Nico, no. Could we? Pretty sure we could and would if he had a season where he was top 5 or 6 in the nation.

 

[butchna]

He…not gone.

 

[DD4ME]

I too like to spend other people's money with this philosophy.

 

[Jimmy Football]

I too like to spend other people's money with this philosophy.

Spending money with that philosophy is illegal in most states.

 

[Jackcrevol]

I too like to spend other people's money with this philosophy.

A shirtless middle aged man holding a mahi incorrectly is saying this.

 

[Cosmo Kramer]

Yesterday for Steve from Lexington