Trade Wars and Tariffs

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volfanhill said:
No one mentioned tarrifs in that news piece. Only that tweeter and you. That's scumbag behavior. Why should anyone take what you post seriously? It's like you didn't even watch the clip. Either you didn't watch, don't care either way bc you want to push a narrative, or you aren't too sharp. I'll let you pick. No matter what you should be ignored.
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No one has taken her posts seriously for years. You are just feeding the troll.

I sometimes wonder if evillawyer and W.TN.Orange Blood are the same troll just one is posting the fake tweets for one side and the other is posting for the other side.

The behavior is basically the same, just on different aisles.
 
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EasternVol said:
They'll need spare parts for their operations.
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Yeah I don't know about how robust that supply chain is, but I know the operators aren't all that dependent on China for anything. What is interesting to me is that both Airbus and Boeing have backlogs of orders and deliveries, so if the Chinese say they won't be taking any, that is good news for those with those backlogged orders. Kind of like burning your I-am-a-leaving jersey you paid good money for. (When you could have gotten a new nameplate for free).

The other thing that is a very real possibility is that this is all face saving nonsense. All the US airlines have Asian partners that fly Boeings. Inventory can be transferred and it quite often is. For example, Delta got a bunch of A350s from LATAM who no longer flies them at all. Airbus has an assembly plant in Mobile that allows them to build the A220s 'domestically' thus avoiding tariffs and such. Business will always find a way around the roadblocks government sets up. Countries will do the same. They will still buy Boeings, it will just be thru shell companies or partners. But Pooh Bear gets to puff out his chest. :rolleyes:
 
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CobbVol said:
Gavin, two words ... "no standing".

From the article:

California Gov. Gavin Newsom announced Wednesday he is suing President Trump over his sweeping tariffs — claiming that the levies are “wreaking chaos” on the Golden State, which has the largest economy in the US.

The lawsuit will argue that Trump’s use of the International Emergency Economic Powers Act to impose hefty tariffs on Mexico, Canada and China, and a 10% tariff on all imports, is unlawful.

“President Trump’s unlawful tariffs are wreaking chaos on California families, businesses, and our economy — driving up prices and threatening jobs,” Newsom said in a statement. “We’re standing up for American families who can’t afford to let the chaos continue.”

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I want to know what makes them unlawful. and I think they are a bad idea in general. but that doesn't necessarily make them unlawful.
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
Yeah I don't know about how robust that supply chain is, but I know the operators aren't all that dependent on China for anything. What is interesting to me is that both Airbus and Boeing have backlogs of orders and deliveries, so if the Chinese say they won't be taking any, that is good news for those with those backlogged orders. Kind of like burning your I-am-a-leaving jersey you paid good money for. (When you could have gotten a new nameplate for free).

The other thing that is a very real possibility is that this is all face saving nonsense. All the US airlines have Asian partners that fly Boeings. Inventory can be transferred and it quite often is. For example, Delta got a bunch of A350s from LATAM who no longer flies them at all. Airbus has an assembly plant in Mobile that allows them to build the A220s 'domestically' thus avoiding tariffs and such. Business will always find a way around the roadblocks government sets up. Countries will do the same. They will still buy Boeings, it will just be thru shell companies or partners. But Pooh Bear gets to puff out his chest. :rolleyes:
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It's the incoming spares from the US for Boeing aircraft that PRC's blocked. Yes there are usually sourcing workarounds but they can be pricier and sometimes the OEM is the only one with a timeley solution, which is why I wondered how this move will work out for PRC.
If it drags on and the Chinese are serious about cancelling their pending AC deliveries, it may indeed work out well for the operators behind them in the queue.
I agree that it's likely a face saving move and probably is foreseen as temporary, bluffing the bluffer so to say. If it does run long term it will give both sides some problems.
I wonder what Airbus has offered PRC in light of the US tariffs.
 
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EasternVol said:
It's the incoming spares from the US for Boeing aircraft that PRC's blocked. Yes there are usually sourcing workarounds but they can be pricier and sometimes the OEM is the only one with a timeley solution, which is why I wondered how this move will work out for PRC.
If it drags on and the Chinese are serious about cancelling their pending AC deliveries, it may indeed work out well for the operators behind them in the queue.
I agree that it's likely a face saving move and probably is foreseen as temporary, bluffing the bluffer so to say. If it does run long term it will give both sides some problems.
I wonder what Airbus has offered PRC in light of the US tariffs.
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I doubt there are any slots available at Airbus for quite some time.
 
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The same EU that has a 35% tariff on CCP autos wants to cut deaks with CCP? Good luck Cotton.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
Trump claims that he is not fighting the world. He claims to be/have ferreting/ferreted out who the friends are so that he can alienate China, the true enemy.
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There's always a 4-D chess interpretation, isn't there?

You need to stop that and instead trust Trump's Razor: With Trump, the stupidest explanation is usually the correct explanation.
 
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