Recruiting Football Talk VIII

[DobermanVol]

I had a feeling Nico had a new spot lined up before he left. There was just no way someone could screw that situation up that badly. The no contact makes sense.

 

[Enki_Amenra]

I had a feeling Nico had a new spot lined up before he left. There was just no way someone could screw that situation up that badly. The no contact makes sense.

They did screw it up that bad. I think they must've got a deal done after Tulane left the table. Probably learned a few hard lessons within a week.

 

[StoVol]

These will be rollin in all day

 

[Smokey123]

Choices for QB1 position

A. Get a guy out of Portal ( then watch everyone complain about the guy)

Or


B. Give the keys to the car to Merk or GM ( then watch individuals complain about not getting a QB from the Portal)

Or


C. Both

My guess is they’ll bring in a 1 year guy but there will be a competition in the fall

 

[Enki_Amenra]

Kinda wish Peyton hadn't already used his final year,

 

[StoVol]

We will be tackling this guy

 

[Smokey123]

I had a feeling Nico had a new spot lined up before he left. There was just no way someone could screw that situation up that badly. The no contact makes sense.

I don’t think he was ever actually planning to leave. Just a terrible miscalculated move

 

[WillisWG]

This is like the opposite of Christmas Morning & Christmas Morning mixed together.

Krampus coming

 

[MemphisVol3]

Rodney Garner is elite, IMO

Chop is elite

 

[Enki_Amenra]

We will be tackling this guy

Good pick up for them. May not be a good decision for him.

 

[Enki_Amenra]

I don’t think he was ever actually planning to leave. Just a terrible miscalculated move

Seems like they thought they controlled Tennessee. Egomaleava.

 

[MoCo_Vol]

The names thrown around and what they did last year.

Luke Altmyer - Illinois
211 of 347 passing for 60.8%, 2717 yards with 22 TDs and 6 INTs added 217 yards rushing with 4 TDs

Avery Johnson - Kansas St
217 of 372 passing for 58.3%, 2712 yards with 25 TDs and 10 INTs added 605 yards rushing with 7 TDs

Sawyer Robertson - Baylor
229 of 368 passing for 62.2%, 3071 yards with 28 TDs and 8 INTs added 230 yards rushing with 4 TDs

Rocco Becht - Iowa St
271 of 456 passing for 59.4%, 3505 yards with 25 TDs and 9 INTs added 318 yards rushing with 8 TDs

 

[Smokey123]

Seems like they thought they controlled Tennessee. Egomaleava.

Yup

 

[StoVol]

 

[CAVPUT]

to an extent. huepel needs recruiters, and we have none.

He needs to drastically upgrade his staff. I think his loyalty to guys in his sphere is admirable, but when they simply can't do the job at a level this league demands, it's the wrong move. We have some coaches on this staff who were bad hires/promotions.

We've got players who are bad evals. Keep going back to the UCF fans on their board who voiced similar complaints. Initially, I considered it sour grape over being jilted by a coach. They also complained about Heupels "system" and the fact that he had won with Frosts recruits but his recruiting results didn't appear to be at nearly the same level.

Can Heupel change? Hope so. I think he's a good man, but I have to wonder if his firing at OU damaged him to the point that he isn't willing to make the tough decisions that all college coaches face? He will get a pass this year due to the Nico teams antics. At some point soon, this will be the team that Heupel will have to own. I'm not sure how that will turn out for him.

 

[Cosmo Kramer]

Lol it's because be already called everyone. Lol

Because you have to contact his Dad. Not Nico

 

[Vols410]

The names thrown around and what they did last year.

Luke Altmyer - Illinois
211 of 347 passing for 60.8%, 2717 yards with 22 TDs and 6 INTs added 217 yards rushing with 4 TDs

Avery Johnson - Kansas St
217 of 372 passing for 58.3%, 2712 yards with 25 TDs and 10 INTs added 605 yards rushing with 7 TDs

Sawyer Robinson - Baylor
229 of 368 passing for 62.2%, 3071 yards with 28 TDs and 8 INTs added 230 yards rushing with 4 TDs

Rocco Becht - Iowa St
271 of 456 passing for 59.4%, 3505 yards with 25 TDs and 9 INTs added 318 yards rushing with 8 TDs

Just to add to this, my talent & strength-adjusted PCAN (Points created above Nico) metric...

Johnson: 4.8 ppg
Robertson: 3.9 ppg
Becht: 2.7 ppg
Altmeyer: 0.7 ppg

 

[JoeyVols32]

If people think showing compassion to liars, cheaters, murderers, prostitutes, etc is justifying evil...then what do they think about Jesus?

 

[StoVol]

Give me some of this

 

[Johnny Majors]

Just to add to this, my talent & strength-adjusted PCAN (Points created above Nico) metric...

Johnson: 4.8 ppg
Robertson: 3.9 ppg
Becht: 2.7 ppg
Altmeyer: 0.7 ppg

Is that pronounced Pee-can or Puh-cahn?

 

[knoxvol52]

Give me some of this

Hell yea, drive to the opponents 43 yard line and guaranteed at least 3 points...

 

[SoilVol]

If Boo Carter leaves we need to embrace being a basketball school

I hope you slept well, had a good breakfast, and feel better today. Really appeared to spiral last night.

 

[Enki_Amenra]

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[knoxvol52]

You're probably not going to like this, but Butch recruited more offensive stars in those two classes than Heupel has in his 5 years here.

 

[CAVPUT]

So much compassion you can't tell the truth and call a spade a spade? A thief is a thief...a liar is a liar...a slime ball is a slimeball.

That's not compassion...that's justifying evil. I don't hate Nico really..I REALLY REALLY REALLY HATE what he just did...it was a horrid betrayal...period.

Exactly. Goes to the eval process IMO. By all accounts, this relationship with Nico wasn't a short one. We targeted him very early in the process. With all the time and visits, with the money being discussed, with the group flights....all that time, there was never a question/uneasy feeling/concern about team Nico? Did Heupel star gaze or did he really get to know the kid and his family?

I don't know the answers, but the buck stops with Heupel. Kind of a red flag for me.