Haynes King

Hanes King coming to town

  • Yeah

    Votes: 103 35.5%

  • Naw

    Votes: 83 28.6%

  • 50/50

    Votes: 65 22.4%

  • Hanes Who Hoss????

    Votes: 39 13.4%
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#27
#27
Volanta said:
Oh like his game too. If you had to choose between King or Johnson who you takin?
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There’s no comparison in the 2. King doesn’t fit our offensive philosophy and they’ve essentially built that offense around him at Georgia Tech to cater to his strengths and hide his weaknesses. He’s not a guy that’s going to beat you with his arm and is more of a between the tackles down hill runner. If you want an offense that is more less like what we ran last year King is our guy. Avery Johnson on the otherhand could easily come in and be everything Nico was supposed to be. He has a live arm and live legs, but he seems to throw with better touch than Nico and is by all accounts a great locker room guy that could be one of the dawgs of this offense that we will need. I think we should also try to get his WR1 Jayce Brown and to be honest I think we pay them just about whatever it takes to an extent
 
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#30
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Vol737 said:
Well, in that case, I’ve got a year of eligibility left and I’m waaaay older than King. I’ll pick up this offense in two shakes of a stick. Of course, these days I run about 7.5 40, throw the ball about 40 yards if my shoulder doesn’t get dislocated in the process and I’ll do it all for the low, low price of a year supply of Buc-ees brisket sammiches.
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I think you are underestimating just how much a years worth of those brisket sandwiches would cost! Getting close to Nico money 😝
 
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#32
VawlIn said:
There’s no comparison in the 2. King doesn’t fit our offensive philosophy and they’ve essentially built that offense around him at Georgia Tech to cater to his strengths and hide his weaknesses. He’s not a guy that’s going to beat you with his arm and is more of a between the tackles down hill runner. If you want an offense that is more less like what we ran last year King is our guy. Avery Johnson on the otherhand could easily come in and be everything Nico was supposed to be. He has a live arm and live legs, but he seems to throw with better touch than Nico and is by all accounts a great locker room guy that could be one of the dawgs of this offense that we will need. I think we should also try to get his WR1 Jayce Brown and to be honest I think we pay them just about whatever it takes to an extent
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I'm not saying I wouldn't rather have Johnson but you are selling Haynes King way short. I watched probably 5 Tech games last year and saw him complete passes under pressure in a real football game (as opposed to underwear olympics) that we could only dream of Nico's sorry azz completing. He is a good and elusive runner with great instincts about when to take off too which you can't teach. I doubt he leaves his team high and dry but he would a major upgrade over what we had last year.
 
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#33
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unfrozencvmanvol said:
I'm not saying I wouldn't rather have Johnson but you are selling Haynes King way short. I watched probably 5 Tech games last year and saw him complete passes under pressure in a real football game (as opposed to underwear olympics) that we could only dream of Nico's sorry azz completing. He is a good and elusive runner with great instincts about when to take off too which you can't teach. I doubt he leaves his team high and dry but he would a major upgrade over what we had last year.
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I think if we changed our offense he would be a guy that could win 9-10 games for us. I just don’t think he would be able to come in and run a completely different offense and I would hope Heupel tweaks the offense for whichever guy we bring in, but Heupel isn’t going to install a completely new offense in the summer and Tech’s offense is completely different from what we do
 
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#36
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VawlIn said:
I think if we changed our offense he would be a guy that could win 9-10 games for us. I just don’t think he would be able to come in and run a completely different offense and I would hope Heupel tweaks the offense for whichever guy we bring in, but Heupel isn’t going to install a completely new offense in the summer and Tech’s offense is completely different from what we do
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I think it would be fine. We'd have probably been undefeated in the regular season last year if he had been our quarterback.

 
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#38
#38
MurphyVol said:
So we want a kid willing to bail on his team this late I to spring for a bigger NIL payday. Wouldn't this negate the "Josh is fighting the system" story?
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Not if the kid is worth the money we're gonna pay.

There's more than one issue at hand with the Nico situation. You have his dad/agent who are greedy and want more money for the kid, so they can get more money themselves and they are willing to tell the kid to hold out until he gets what he wants, regardless of what impact that has on the team and the kid.

Then, the second issue is...the kid is asking for more money. But a question must be asked. Is he worth what he's asking for? If he is, then you have to do what's necessary to try and meet the demands. If he's not, you have make a decision on whether to pay up or let him walk.

My argument is he wasn't even worth what we were currently paying him, based on results to this point. That could have changed this year, had he taken a big step, but obviously not going to happen now.

If there is a kid out there that hits the portal that gives us a chance to win the SEC/compete for a playoff spot, there's nothing wrong with paying up, IMO. I still don't think Nico would have gotten us there this year, based on what I had seen so far of him. Maybe he would have improved drastically, who knows, but never gonna find out how it would have turned out.
 
#41
#41
MurphyVol said:
So we want a kid willing to bail on his team this late into spring for a bigger NIL payday. Wouldn't this negate the "Josh is fighting the system" story?
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The "Josh is fighting the system" narrative is baloney anyway. Only simpletons believe that. We just made the business judgment that Nico wasn't worth what he was asking and let him walk. If he was Hendon Hooker, we pay him, it's pretty simple.
 
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#44
#44
unfrozencvmanvol said:
The "Josh is fighting the system" narrative is baloney anyway. Only simpletons believe that. We just made the business judgment that Nico wasn't worth what he was asking and let him walk. If he was Hendon Hooker, we pay him, it's pretty simple.
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And the cost would have been so much more than just the money. His skipping practice and ghosting the staff was an intolerable action that could have disrupted the team chemistry even more had the University given in to his demands.
 
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#45
#45
utchs81 said:
And the cost would have been so much more than just the money. His skipping practice and ghosting the staff was an intolerable action that could have disrupted the team chemistry even more had the University given in to his demands.
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Yeah, it was definitely the right call, no arguing that. Him skipping practice and ghosting the staff was a direct result of not paying him though. If he had gotten a deal he wouldn't have done those things.
 
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#46
#46
volfanhill said:
Is what we have mid?
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We don’t know yet. But why bring him in and chance losing Merk, GMac or both? Does King know Heupels system like Merk? Has he earned the trust of the players and the staff like Merk? No he hasn’t. Also, what guarantee can you give that he could just walk in here, learn the system enough to operate it at a high level and beat out Merk? Oh that’s right you don’t. He isn’t worth it imo.
 
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