President Donald Trump - J.D. Vance Administration

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jwells said:
I don't. But I also don't see trying to lower them through a quite-possible recession as a valid method. But a recession DOES achieve the goal of cheap borrowing and cheap labor. "buy the dip" but in labor.
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I’m still curious you seem to be implying that interest rates and labor go together.

Is your claim right now that high interest is good because it means high labor prices (wages)?

Are you indifferent?

Not really trying to argue, just trying to simply understand.

Because if anything Trump’s policies seem aimed at higher wages (even if he fails to do so) by decreasing supply (deportations) and increasing demand (factory jobs).
 
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n_huffhines said:
Still is where you lost me. LOL. Never seen anything like that in my 43 years.
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if that was the extent of it. i would say its pretty mild. I have experienced worse in the 12 years I have been in Atlanta.
being a minority to whatever the crowd is typically gets you noticed and targeted.

its easy to point to the white arse holes being arse holes to others because most of us are white, and are in mostly white crowds. so most of the time we aren't going to experience anything ourselves.

How many on this forum actually get out to somewhere where they aren't in the majority, or even the opposite of the majority? pretty much every time I have been, I have been "attacked" in a similar manner.
 
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LouderVol said:
if that was the extent of it. i would say its pretty mild. I have experienced worse in the 12 years I have been in Atlanta.
being a minority to whatever the crowd is typically gets you noticed and targeted.

its easy to point to the white arse holes being arse holes to others because most of us are white, and are in mostly white crowds. so most of the time we aren't going to experience anything ourselves.

How many on this forum actually get out to somewhere where they aren't in the majority, or even the opposite of the majority? pretty much every time I have been, I have been "attacked" in a similar manner.
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I think my favorite was when a friend of mine, at a holiday party and a bit into his cups, said something about his daughter and how he was going to go nuts if she got hit on by a (minority) kid when she reached dating age. Realizing what he had spoken aloud, he promptly choked a bit, turned to me and said, "Except (my son), of course. I'd be fine if she went out with (my son.)"

People, even good people, are flawed in many ways. You either take the good with the bad or go live, Kaczynski-style, in a mountain cabin by yourself.
 
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Vol8188 said:
I’m still curious you seem to be implying that interest rates and labor go together.

Is your claim right now that high interest is good because it means high labor prices (wages)?

Are you indifferent?

Not really trying to argue, just trying to simply understand.

Because if anything Trump’s policies seem aimed at higher wages (even if he fails to do so) by decreasing supply (deportations) and increasing demand (factory jobs).
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I'm not.
They don't want high rates.
They don't want expensive labor.

A manufactured recession *would* fix both of those for them.

My claim is that interest rates are high due to lagging inflation (though it has outpaced the world) and that we are still in a market where there are open jobs but not labor to fill them.

His policy aim may well be to increase factory jobs, but the idea that we'll get there is a pipedream. We can't get $1000 cell phones and $100 sneakers with domestic labor. We especially can't get close with a removal of low-wage labor. But...if you have a nice fat recession, people get laid off, it forces the bottom workers down further...boom...fruit pickers and laborers are available.
Especially given his repost of a video that he is in fact destroying the economy to rebuild it, it's certainly plausible.
 
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Ritzwatch said:
I think my favorite was when a friend of mine, at a holiday party and a bit into his cups, said something about his daughter and how he was going to go nuts if she got hit on by a (minority) kid when she reached dating age. Realizing what he had spoken aloud, he promptly choked a bit, turned to me and said, "Except (my son), of course. I'd be fine if she went out with (my son.)"

People, even good people, are flawed in many ways. You either take the good with the bad or go live, Kaczynski-style, in a mountain cabin by yourself.
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Its happened multiple times to me where I have been somewhere, aligned with a minority group of some flavor I didn't belong to, and then been targeted even though I was there as a "friend".

unless someone has only lived an extremely monochromatic life I don't know how you couldn't have seen something like this in 43 years.

don't get me wrong here, I 100% think his story about some white person being an arse hole is legit. not questioning that aspect.

even just at a sporting event, how often do you here your own side use a derogatory term against an opposing team's player, while cheering on and loving their own player who could also fit that derogatory term?
 
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SURVEY: 55% Of Self-Identified Leftists Say Killing Trump Is Justifiable​


The more troubling trend is the rising violent rhetoric isn’t just coming from the ‘fringe’ left, it’s being ‘normalized’ by the left.

The unhinged left, fueled by Trump Derangement Syndrome and seething hatred for Elon Musk, is trending more violent, according to a new study that finds political violence targeting President Donald Trump and his billionaire adviser is “becoming increasingly normalized.”

thefederalist.com

55% Of Self-Identified Leftists Say Killing Trump Is Justifiable

The more troubling trend is the rising violent rhetoric isn’t just coming from the 'fringe' left, it's being 'normalized' by the left.
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jwells said:
I'm not.
They don't want high rates.
They don't want expensive labor.

A manufactured recession *would* fix both of those for them.

My claim is that interest rates are high due to lagging inflation (though it has outpaced the world) and that we are still in a market where there are open jobs but not labor to fill them.

His policy aim may well be to increase factory jobs, but the idea that we'll get there is a pipedream. We can't get $1000 cell phones and $100 sneakers with domestic labor. We especially can't get close with a removal of low-wage labor. But...if you have a nice fat recession, people get laid off, it forces the bottom workers down further...boom...fruit pickers and laborers are available.
Especially given his repost of a video that he is in fact destroying the economy to rebuild it, it's certainly plausible.
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I don’t think anyone should focus too much on anything Trump tweets.

Increasing inflation (what he’s doing), isn’t going to improve interest rates.

Idk why you believe Trump wants low wages. He’s never expressed such to my knowledge
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
Hold on, I thought you were saying it was stupidity to believe that someone paid protestors….now you are saying Elon paid the protesters?
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Elon gave out tickets for a milion$ for two lucky attendees.

And if you're gullible enough that millions of protestors all over the US where paid then that's on you. How much in would you require to participate in a protest?
 
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Franklin Pierce said:

SURVEY: 55% Of Self-Identified Leftists Say Killing Trump Is Justifiable​


The more troubling trend is the rising violent rhetoric isn’t just coming from the ‘fringe’ left, it’s being ‘normalized’ by the left.

The unhinged left, fueled by Trump Derangement Syndrome and seething hatred for Elon Musk, is trending more violent, according to a new study that finds political violence targeting President Donald Trump and his billionaire adviser is “becoming increasingly normalized.”

thefederalist.com

55% Of Self-Identified Leftists Say Killing Trump Is Justifiable

The more troubling trend is the rising violent rhetoric isn’t just coming from the 'fringe' left, it's being 'normalized' by the left.
thefederalist.com thefederalist.com
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I hope that is wrong, never mind I saw the source of this news.
 
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Vol8188 said:
Given the large boom after Trump won, I’m not sure Inauguration Day is the best starting point for measurement.

But this is for sure an epic screw up on his part
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Epic Screw up?? Ok if you’re in the market for a short period. This has happened before and I suspect it will happen again. If you are in the market for the “long game”, this is a blip on the radar.

I see this as a great time to buy. Is your glass half empty? Or half full??

Make America Great Again.
 
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Buddy’s Bandit said:
Epic Screw up?? Ok if you’re in the market for a short period. This has happened before and I suspect it will happen again. If you are in the market for the “long game”, this is a blip on the radar.

I see this as a great time to buy. Is your glass half empty? Or half full??

Make America Great Again.
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Be more specific. How is this making America great
 
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Buddy’s Bandit said:
Epic Screw up?? Ok if you’re in the market for a short period. This has happened before and I suspect it will happen again. If you are in the market for the “long game”, this is a blip on the radar.

I see this as a great time to buy. Is your glass half empty? Or half full??

Make America Great Again.
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If this were “short term pain for long term gain” due to massive cuts to federal spending that caused GDP to shrink or increased unemployment, I’d 100% support it.

This is pain for likely 0 gain, due to fixed pie economic ignorance
 
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Vol8188 said:
Be more specific. How is this making America great
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Level Economic Field….eliminating stupid rules making it impossible for us to enter other markets are just two ways.

For the first time in a long time, you have a president who is truly working to help middle/lower income famlies. Previous administrations talked about big game but did nothing to help those folks.

Let’s give this time to work.
 
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Franklin Pierce said:

SURVEY: 55% Of Self-Identified Leftists Say Killing Trump Is Justifiable​


The more troubling trend is the rising violent rhetoric isn’t just coming from the ‘fringe’ left, it’s being ‘normalized’ by the left.

The unhinged left, fueled by Trump Derangement Syndrome and seething hatred for Elon Musk, is trending more violent, according to a new study that finds political violence targeting President Donald Trump and his billionaire adviser is “becoming increasingly normalized.”

thefederalist.com

55% Of Self-Identified Leftists Say Killing Trump Is Justifiable

The more troubling trend is the rising violent rhetoric isn’t just coming from the 'fringe' left, it's being 'normalized' by the left.
thefederalist.com thefederalist.com
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Just shows that being on the left means you are have to be a total POS to want a person dead.
 
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VOLLeeann said:
The Psychology of Trump’s Inner Circle | A Psychiatrist’s View (hint: they're all enablers )

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Did you even bother to listen to your own video? Around 4:45 he talks of knowing something being harmful and having a conscience kick in. Pretty sure the left allowed basement Joe to be protected until he was escorted off by Obama. Tell me more about enablers.

And ole boy praised Obama and Obamacare.
 
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