President Donald Trump - J.D. Vance Administration

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bamawriter said:
They were discussing a surprise military attack against a terrorist group. Even if they never discussed specific times and weapons, in what insane world should anyone be a part of that conversation without clearance?
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Nobodies disputing they messed up by including JG, the issue with whether classified information was shared...so far there is no proof other the. A journalist who has been caught lying several times...also he was told to release the whole text And he refuses..that speaks volumes.
 
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whodeycin85 said:
Nobodies disputing they messed up by including JG, the issue with whether classified information was shared...so far there is no proof other the. A journalist who has been caught lying several times...also he was told to release the whole text And he refuses..that speaks volumes.
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Whether it was formally classified or not, it was clearly sensitive information. Details concerning a pending military operation should obviously not be revealed to the public. That's basically what you're doing when you give information to a journalist. The White House is trying to assert a post-facto defense .... that sensitive material had been declassified, but they are doing so AFTER it had already been revealed. That is a ridiculous defense to the mishandling of information.

What lies has Jeffrey Goldberg been caught telling? Be specific. Don't just say, "He works for The Atlantic, therefore, he lies." Give a specific example of a lie he has told.

Who has told Goldberg to release the whole text? When did he refuse?
 
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LSU-SIU said:
No security clearance is needed, this has been told to you multiple times now by multiple people. The guy is free to publish the whole thread.
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That is wrong. It was sensitive information as defined by the United States government. I have told you this multiple times now. Goldberg was not free to publish the whole thread at the moment that he received it on March 11th. That could have compromised the security of a pending military operation. The Trump administration wants to assert that what Hegseth disclosed was declassified .... but unless that was stated during the text, it is not a defense to the mishandling of sensitive information. You can't declassify material post-facto (after it has already been revealed.)
 
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lawgator1 said:
Republicans are saying this. It's hardly a Dem talking point that this was an enormous error in judgment by Trump's ENTIRE national security team.
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Good Lord. What it must be like to support the most pure and honest regime ever. Puddinhead was the greatest president since President Soetoro.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Whether it was formally classified or not, it was clearly sensitive information. Details concerning a pending military operation should obviously not be revealed to the public. That's basically what you're doing when you give information to a journalist. The White House is trying to assert a post-facto defense .... that sensitive material had been declassified, but they are doing so AFTER it had already been revealed. That is a ridiculous defense to the mishandling of information.

What lies has Jeffrey Goldberg been caught telling? Be specific. Don't just say, "He works for The Atlantic, therefore, he lies." Give a specific example of a lie he has told.

Who has told Goldberg to release the whole text? When did he refuse?
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Russia/Trump Collusion?
 
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Orangeburst said:
dude is one of those Anonymous sources guys..including a bevy of well known suppossed quotes that weall heard.
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I will say this ..... It is clear that Jeffrey Goldberg hates Donald Trump, which makes it hard to fathom how in the hell, Trump's national security team made the mistake of inviting him into one of their text chains.

There are mistakes, and then there is just plain stupidity. This was the latter. I'm talking stupid on the scale of inviting Jeffrey Epstein to babysit your 14 year old daughter level-stupid.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
I will say this ..... It is clear that Jeffrey Goldberg hates Donald Trump, which makes it hard to fathom how in the hell, Trump's national security team made the mistake of inviting him into one of their text chains.

There are mistakes, and then there is just plain stupidity. This was the latter.
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You need to buy Jeffrey a steak dinner to celebrate since y'all both hate Trump.
 
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CobbVol said:
dailycaller.com

The Atlantic’s October Surprise On Trump Implodes After Denials Galore From Everyone Involved

The Atlantic published a hit piece Tuesday night on Trump, alleging that he disparaged a deceased veteran and her family, and refused to pay for their funeral.
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That is something specific. Good find.

Goldberg clearly does have an anti-Trump agenda. So, wouldn't he be one of the last people on earth that Trump's cabinet would be in contact with .... and obviously someone was.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
That is wrong. It was sensitive information as defined by the United States government. I have told you this multiple times now. Goldberg was not free to publish the whole thread at the moment that he received it on March 11th. That could have compromised the security of a pending military operation. The Trump administration wants to assert that what Hegseth disclosed was declassified .... but unless that was stated during the text, it is not a defense to the mishandling of sensitive information. You can't declassify material post-facto (after it has already been revealed.)
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Classified information requires a clearance and a need to know. You can actually be prosecuted for giving someone classified information with a clearance but doesn't have a need to know.

The Trump administration wants to assert that what Hegseth disclosed was declassified .... but unless that was stated during the text
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The White House is saying the information that the reporter had access to is not classified so he is able to publish it.

You keep inserting "sensitive" information which I would say is generally stuff like OpSec or Privacy Act information. ??? None of that stuff requires a clearance, but as a matter of law one might legal need to have access to the information.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
I will say this ..... It is clear that Jeffrey Goldberg hates Donald Trump, which makes it hard to fathom how in the hell, Trump's national security team made the mistake of inviting him into one of their text chains.

There are mistakes, and then there is just plain stupidity. This was the latter. I'm talking stupid on the scale of inviting Jeffrey Epstein to babysit your 14 year old daughter level-stupid.
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I'll bet that POS won't be included on anything else going forward.
 
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The total size of the announced investments since Trump took office on January 20, 2025, is just over $2.8 trillion.

The list of companies and countries investing in the U.S. based on the size of commitment is noted below:

  • UAE - $1.4 trillion
  • Saudi Arabia - $600 billion
  • Apple (NASDAQ: AAPL) - $500 billion
  • NVIDIA - $100 billion
  • Softbank/OpenAi/Oracle (as part of Stargate) - $100 billion
  • Taiwan Semiconductor - $100 billion
  • Johnson & Johnson - $55 billion
  • Eli Lilly (NYSE: LLY) - $27 billion
  • CMA CGM Group - $20 billion
  • Merck (NYSE: MRK) - $1 billion
  • GE Aerospace - $1 billion
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
That is something specific. Good find.

Goldberg clearly does have an anti-Trump agenda. So, wouldn't he be one of the last people on earth that Trump's cabinet would be in contact with .... and obviously someone was.
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It has been suggested it was an accident. Whoever brought him in clicked Goldberg on mistake.
 
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