President Donald Trump - J.D. Vance Administration

[NorthDallas40]

I have to wonder, how do you "accidentally fat finger" putting Jeffrey Goldberg in that chat?

As a lapsed user of Signal it’s likely as simple as they chose the wrong individual from their contacts list to import into signal.

That also means whomever created the chat, supposedly Waltz, had Goldberg in his contacts list. And it also means Goldberg had signal on his phone too.

It seems a pretty minor deduction step to see Waltz has communicated with Goldberg before which is absolutely baffling to me.

 

[utvolpj]

As I mentioned the investigation might actually revolve around this... (I have not verified from another source)

Why would you ever want someone like that guy as an advisor?

 

[lawgator1]

Glad to see you've dropped the "independent" farce.

Republicans are saying this. It's hardly a Dem talking point that this was an enormous error in judgment by Trump's ENTIRE national security team.

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

Democrats at their best. No leader & no message .... just constant interruptions.

 

[bamawriter]

Is that a one way street in your opinion? Couldn't JG do the same?

Yes. It's a one-way street. If I were Goldberg, there is no way I'd trust the admin's assertions. It's not up to him whether what he has is classified.

But it is up to the admin.

 

[hog88]

Yes. It's a one-way street. If I were Goldberg, there is no way I'd trust the admin's assertions. It's not up to him whether what he has is classified.

But it is up the admin.

The admin has publicly stated no classified information was shared so he's free and clear to publish everything he has from that chat.

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

The admin has publicly stated no classified information was shared so he's free and clear to publish everything he has from that chat.

Fake outrage being shown by the democrats is SOP. They just ask gotcha questions.

 

[bamawriter]

The admin has publicly stated no classified information was shared so he's free and clear to publish everything he has from that chat.

Public statements are worth the paper on which they're printed.

 

[hog88]

Public statements are worth the paper on which they're printed.

They are when they come from the administration, no fing way they can charge this guy with anything if he published it all.

First of all if a GJ did indict how is the prosecution going to sell their case to a jury? "Even though the governments top intelligence people, including the ones on the chat stated nothing classified was shared on the chat we want you to convict this guy of mishandling classified information". I don't think that would play very well.

 

[Majors]

Fake outrage being shown by the democrats is SOP. They just ask gotcha questions.

Sorry we took out Houthis. You’re welcome! But please proceed with being upset that a reporter was on a text chain.

 

[bamawriter]

They are when they come from the administration, no fing way they can charge this guy with anything if he published it all.

Oh, there are many ways.

First of all if a GJ did indict how is the prosecution going to sell their case to a jury? "Even though the governments top intelligence people, including the ones on the chat stated nothing classified was shared on the chat we want you to convict this guy of mishandling classified information". I don't think that would play very well.

I'm not saying that a conviction is a slam dunk. But I'm not taking a chance on getting charged. Goldberg can't be gambling his freedom, even temporarily, on the assurances of the Trump administration.

 

[hog88]

Oh, there are many ways.


I'm not saying that a conviction is a slam dunk. But I'm not taking a chance on getting charged. Goldberg can't be gambling his freedom, even temporarily, on the assurances of the Trump administrationm

It would be an embarrassment of colossal proportions for the admin to indict this guy now. Would never happen.

 

[bamawriter]

It would be an embarrassment of colossal proportions for the admin to indict this guy now. Would never happen.

I sure as hell wouldn't gamble my freedom on the Trump administration's capacity for shame.

 

[hog88]

I sure as hell wouldn't gamble my freedom on the Trump administration's capacity for shame.

It wouldn't be much if any gamble.

 

[bamawriter]

It wouldn't be much if any gamble.

It'd be like riding shotgun with a Georgia football player.

 

[whodeycin85]

Odd are more likely there was nothing classified discussed and JG is exaggerating his story like he has done several times before...but it still worries me that Walz speaks to JG enough that clicking his name is habit...

 

[Vol423]

Oh, there are many ways.


I'm not saying that a conviction is a slam dunk. But I'm not taking a chance on getting charged. Goldberg can't be gambling his freedom, even temporarily, on the assurances of the Trump administration.

Exactly...not with Donald Trump's well-established history of conducting Lawfare against his political opponents.

 

[Orange_Crush]

 

[LSU-SIU]

Why would you ever want someone like that guy as an advisor?

So... I only had the one cite, this one is talking about as well and is bringing some interesting questions.

What I found interesting was Vance and how he acted, and others not playing ball with him.

 

[BowlBrother85]

Fake outrage being shown by the democrats is SOP. They just ask gotcha questions.

Then why couldn't/wouldn't she discuss what was said? If it wasn't classified, why isn't she at liberty to discuss the content of the chat in specific details? As Sen. Mark Warner said to her, "You can't have it both ways."

 

[LSU-SIU]

Then why couldn't/wouldn't she discuss what was said? If it wasn't classified, why isn't she at liberty to discuss the content of the chat in specific details? As Sen. Mark Warner said to her, "You can't have it both ways."

It was still cabinet discussions. It can be unclassified yet subject to nondisclosure.

 

[BowlBrother85]

Odd are more likely there was nothing classified discussed

Even just based on what the White House has already confirmed as being authentic .... that is a ridiculous assertion on your part. Pending military targets were discussed in details.

 

[BowlBrother85]

It was still cabinet discussions. It can be unclassified yet subject to nondisclosure.

Once again .... it ceased to merely be a cabinet discussion when Jeffrey Goldberg was added to the chat. Goldberg does not have the security clearance to be given that information. This is like the 5th time I have said that.

 

[hog88]

Even just based on what the White House has already confirmed as being authentic .... that is a ridiculous assertion on your part. Pending military targets were discussed in details.

So the reporter says, he has yet to provide proof.

 

[LSU-SIU]

Once again .... it ceased to merely be a cabinet discussion when Jeffrey Goldberg was added to the chat. Goldberg does not have the security clearance to be given that information. This is like the 5th time I have said that.

That was not the intent... what happens if the maid listened in the conversation? Nobody has to talk about cabinet information which this clearly was.

Goldberg does not have the security clearance to be given that information. This is like the 5th time I have said that.

No security clearance is needed, this has been told to you multiple times now by multiple people. The guy is free to publish the whole thread.