Canada is threatening to turn off the lights.

#51
#51
Redleg68 said:
Canada, should be happy to help the U.S. establish a military presence in the Artic. When I look at Canada's military, they couldn't stop much at all. They have always ridden our coattails for protection. Their history of military spend in relation to GDP is pathetic.
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Why should they spend a lot on defense when they don't have to? They don't have an empire to manage and they haven't faced any territorial threats until very recently. Maybe they prioritize things like literacy and health care.
 
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EasternVol said:
Why should they spend a lot on defense when they don't have to? They don't have an empire to manage and they haven't faced any territorial threats until very recently. Maybe they prioritize things like literacy and health care.
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Yeah, when you have someone else shouldering the load for you on the world stage, you can put more money to those things and sit back and say "look how great we are". Maybe, we should tell the world to take care of itself also and then we could eliminate our national debt in a few years. After all nobody is going to set foot here. You are wrong though about Canada and no threat. They will share a border with Russia in the near future if we decide to just take care of ourselves.
 
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#53
#53
EasternVol said:
Why should they spend a lot on defense when they don't have to? They don't have an empire to manage and they haven't faced any territorial threats until very recently. Maybe they prioritize things like literacy and health care.
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Would they still do that without our umbrella of protection?
 
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EasternVol said:
Why should they spend a lot on defense when they don't have to? They don't have an empire to manage and they haven't faced any territorial threats until very recently. Maybe they prioritize things like literacy and health care.
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Quick question: Just what do you consider as our empire .
 
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EasternVol said:
Why should they spend a lot on defense when they don't have to? They don't have an empire to manage and they haven't faced any territorial threats until very recently. Maybe they prioritize things like literacy and health care.
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I like you. You're an endless source of humor. You admitted already that you have no idea regarding the history of the Middle East region and yet have strong opinions about the area (Really just going by what the TV tells you to think) and now you prove you know nothing about North America. Love it. Canada is our little b. They are the luckiest people on earth being surrounded by oceans and us - they should thank us every day. They couldn't even give up the crown, they're pathetic. Like little bros and some of their friends in NATO, they live off of us. They rely on us for protection so they can play socialist while not fulfilling their military obligations for decades. F Canada.
 
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Redleg68 said:
Yeah, when you have someone else shouldering the load for you on the world stage, you can put more money to those things and sit back and say "look how great we are". Maybe, we should tell the world to take care of itself also and then we could eliminate our national debt in a few years. After all nobody is going to set foot here. You are wrong though about Canada and no threat. They will share a border with Russia in the near future if we decide to just take care of ourselves.
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Where will they have another border with Russia?
 
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just bob said:
I like you. You're an endless source of humor. You admitted already that you have no idea regarding the history of the Middle East region and yet have strong opinions about the area (Really just going by what the TV tells you to think) and now you prove you know nothing about North America. Love it. Canada is our little b. They are the luckiest people on earth being surrounded by oceans and us - they should thank us every day. They couldn't even give up the crown, they're pathetic. Like little bros and some of their friends in NATO, they live off of us. They rely on us for protection so they can play socialist while not fulfilling their military obligations for decades. F Canada.
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Aw, did you have a bad ride on the short bus today? Eat too much paste? Get the finger paint up your nose again?
 
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Redleg68 said:
Quick question: Just what do you consider as our empire .
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I'll try and answer.

Our empire is spread around the world throughout 80 countries and territories, with an estimated 750 US military facilities. I'm certainly not the best suited to articulate it, but it's more an empire of financial hegemony than an empire of occupational enforcement.

The Roman Empire really only had two true laws. Don't revolt, and pay your taxes. Our only two true laws are don't F-with the petro dollar & and don't F-with our boats(shipping/trade). Any peoples under our hegemony have the right to self governance, within their states, as long as natural resources keep moving and shipping isn't impeded. F-up either of those too severely........, we'll squash that genocide, fascism, coup, dictator, tyrant, or whatever the 'current thing' is called.

I'm no FDR fan, but his(and his administrations) international diplomacy throughout WW2 was simply brilliant. A good bit of the foreign military facilities we occupy were obtained through lend l-lease. They also realized the economic advantages post war industrial manufacturing would provide.

MIC is the backbone and logistics holding it all up. Eisenhower tried to warn us about something to do with an outsized MIC and diminishing economic/resource advantages, though. We'll see.
 
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MemphisVol77 said:
I'll try and answer.

Our empire is spread around the world throughout 80 countries and territories, with an estimated 750 US military facilities. I'm certainly not the best suited to articulate it, but it's more an empire of financial hegemony than an empire of occupational enforcement.

The Roman Empire really only had two true laws. Don't revolt, and pay your taxes. Our only two true laws are don't F-with the petro dollar & and don't F-with our boats(shipping/trade). Any peoples under our hegemony have the right to self governance, within their states, as long as natural resources keep moving and shipping isn't impeded. F-up either of those too severely........, we'll squash that genocide, fascism, coup, dictator, tyrant, or whatever the 'current thing' is called.

I'm no FDR fan, but his(and his administrations) international diplomacy throughout WW2 was simply brilliant. A good bit of the foreign military facilities we occupy were obtained through lend l-lease. They also realized the economic advantages post war industrial manufacturing would provide.

MIC is the backbone and logistics holding it all up. Eisenhower tried to warn us about something to do with an outsized MIC and diminishing economic/resource advantages, though. We'll see.
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I understand what you are saying. We have a somewhat different opinion as to what would fall into as part of your empire. To me it is a country that pays you taxes and pays homage to your government. Maybe two countries fall into that category. The other 78 is us being their protectors at our expense. We actually have no empire, just one hell of an expense and commitment of American lives.
 
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EasternVol said:
Why should they spend a lot on defense when they don't have to? They don't have an empire to manage and they haven't faced any territorial threats until very recently. Maybe they prioritize things like literacy and health care.
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They prioritize their metropolitan centers and leave thinks like defense up to it's neighbor to the south. They don't seem to care much about the literacy and healthcare of those outside their large cities.
 
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Redleg68 said:
I understand what you are saying. We have a somewhat different opinion as to what would fall into as part of your empire. To me it is a country that pays you taxes and pays homage to your government. Maybe two countries fall into that category. The other 78 is us being their protectors at our expense. We actually have no empire, just one hell of an expense and commitment of American lives.
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I'm willing to bet we agree on a lot more than we disagree on.

2.5 years ago I had this take about our decline. I still stand by it.
MemphisVol77 said:
FDR was the closest we've had to an emperor like Augustus(for analogy sake, I'm not trying to be too literal.....). I'll leave my opinion of FDR's domestic policies aside and just say he parlayed our Republic's global position pre-WW2 to post-WW2 to the best possible outcome. Due primarily to Lend-Lease, our Dollar surpassed the British pound as the dominant global currency. We secured our borders (global spheres of influence anyway) with imperialistic military expansion.

FDR died before we lost a Legion across the Rhine, but JFK sent them over (Vietnam) in his stead.

Thus began the era of Bread & Circuses.
Education standards declined while the masses ate bread and increased their ignorance with a deluge of constantly morphing Circuses ranging from hollywood cinema, cable & MTV, to Tiktok & twatter.....

Our borders & spheres of influence have since been encroached. Our bureaucracy has become incompetent, created a famine(recession), and can no longer provide bread to the masses.

Orangeman (Commodus) appeals to the masses while playing in the kayfab gladiator Circus with no ability to advance or restore the republic. Just like the idiot Commodus, Orangeman doesn't realize the corrupt Senate(and modern Congress) will capitulate truce behind close doors to eliminate his corrupt threat to their corruption.
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KB5252 said:
They prioritize their metropolitan centers and leave thinks like defense up to it's neighbor to the south. They don't seem to care much about the literacy and healthcare of those outside their large cities.
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Yet as a whole they're better in literacy and healthier than us.
 
#75
#75
Invite Alberta and Saskatchewan to join the republic as #51 and #52. 4 more non-leftist senators and vaste natural resources. Then watch the other western and rural provinces and territories line up to ask for their invitations as well.

Ontario and Quebec can be their own liberal Enclave of Canada.
 
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