USAID may be the biggest scandal in American History.

[titansvolsfaninga]

here ya go….if you want to keep repeating the Liberal talking point, go right ahead and let them expire.

https://www.communitytax.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/Tax-Brackets-Before-Tax-Cuts-and-Jobs-Act.webp

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Do you do taxes? Have you seen my taxes. My wife and I make about 260k a year between full time job and a side business. The amount we owe ballooned by 4k. Nothing changed on our dependents etc. The only thing that changed were tax laws in 2017. You're looking at the tax rate and not what deductions were taken away. I have an extra 300 come out of my pay every month for federal ( I get paid once a month) and that still left us owing 4000 year before last. You show me a tax table, and I bring you real-life examples. I can send you my tax forms, redacted of course.

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

Idiot moron protesters are being removed from the meeting for stupid behavior.

 

[titansvolsfaninga]

Not raising the debt limit is fine by me. Glad to see Dems on board. That said, cutting wasteful spending is still an admirable goal. Not sure how anyone could argue against it.

CuTtInG cOsTs!

 

[Orangeburst]

CuTtInG cOsTs!

this contract was put out for bid before Trump even took office and Musk hasbeen axed from the bid

Elon Musk is already offering the first price cuts for his Tesla Cybertruck

Brand new inventory of the Cybertruck is already being marked down by well over $1,000 each after just one quarter of its entry AWD version having gone on sale.

fortune.com

 

[DinkinFlicka]

I’m up this early because I have a 3 year old and an annoying cat my wife just rescued.

What the hell is your problem man! You anti-sleep now?

I'm speedrunning IT education. I don't really sleep much during the week.

 

[hog88]

Do you do taxes? Have you seen my taxes. My wife and I make about 260k a year between full time job and a side business. The amount we owe ballooned by 4k. Nothing changed on our dependents etc. The only thing that changed were tax laws in 2017. You're looking at the tax rate and not what deductions were taken away. I have an extra 300 come out of my pay every month for federal ( I get paid once a month) and that still left us owing 4000 year before last. You show me a tax table, and I bring you real-life examples. I can send you my tax forms, redacted of course.

Then you need a better accountant to help you with tax planning and mitigation.

 

[LouderVol]

That's the point, there are poor and middle class whites, BUT they vote against their best interest, every time. There are poor and middle class of every race. The difference is whites votes for people that cut programs that poor whites need. Conservatives campaign on immigration, abortion, and gun rights. None of those issues will help you put food on your table or a roof over your head. Most poor/middle class people live check to check, or 1 emergency away from being SOL. Javier that cuts grass for a living, or work in a poultry plant does not affect me. Those are things I won't do. Hatred makes people vote against their own interest. We live in a global society. We live in a multi-ethnic country. No matter what they say or tell the masses. We can't go back to 1970, 1960, 1920, 1830.

there are more than one way to help those poor.

The Dems prefer giving them money by taking from others.
The Republicans prefer to let them keep their money, and lower various costs.

keeping the current welfare system doesn't help people be more than 1 emergency from being SOL. Relying on the government is a flawed response too. See NC and CA.

 

[VOLS INC.]

That's the point, there are poor and middle class whites, BUT they vote against their best interest, every time. There are poor and middle class of every race. The difference is whites votes for people that cut programs that poor whites need. Conservatives campaign on immigration, abortion, and gun rights. None of those issues will help you put food on your table or a roof over your head. Most poor/middle class people live check to check, or 1 emergency away from being SOL. Javier that cuts grass for a living, or work in a poultry plant does not affect me. Those are things I won't do. Hatred makes people vote against their own interest. We live in a global society. We live in a multi-ethnic country. No matter what they say or tell the masses. We can't go back to 1970, 1960, 1920, 1830.

Voting for the democrat party is in no way, shape, form, or fashion a vote for my best interest, I can assure you that.

In fact, it’s not a vote for anyone’s best interest. Even the ones that profit from their corruption.

Hatred for brown people did not drive the MAGA vote. A love of country did. Thats why so many brown people voted for him. They aren’t dumb. They can see what’s going on.

 

[BigOrangeMojo]

Then you need a better accountant to help you with tax planning and mitigation.

Yeah, something aint adding up here. Doubt SALT hurt him that much in GA unless he's living in a huge house with giant property taxes....

 

[BeardedVol]

Voting for the democrat party is in no way, shape, form, or fashion a vote for my best interest, I can assure you that.

In fact, it’s not a vote for anyone’s best interest. Even the ones that profit from their corruption.

Hatred for brown people did not drive the MAGA vote. A love of country did. Thats why so many brown people voted for him. They aren’t dumb. They can see what’s going on.

Economic performance is stronger when Democrats hold the White House - EPI Action

Besides the pronounced superiority of macroeconomic performance under Democratic presidents, the fruits of economic growth are also distributed substantially more equally under Democratic presidents.

epiaction.org

U.S. Debt by President: Dollar and Percentage

The national debt has increased under most U.S. presidents. Here is how much each president's time in office added to the U.S. debt by percentage and dollar amounts.

www.investopedia.com

 

[marcusluvsvols]

Voting for the democrat party is in no way, shape, form, or fashion a vote for my best interest, I can assure you that.

In fact, it’s not a vote for anyone’s best interest. Even the ones that profit from their corruption.

Hatred for brown people did not drive the MAGA vote. A love of country did. Thats why so many brown people voted for him. They aren’t dumb. They can see what’s going on.

Yes.

I would rather my kid be diagnosed as a psychopath or pathological liar than a Democrat. With either of the 1st two problems, theres only 1 serious issue to deal with. In order to be a Democrat in 2025 they would have to be completely detached from logic and reason ...morally bankrupt ...or likely all of the above. Which would mean I failed completely as a parent to prepare them for being a responsible and self sufficient adult. The Republicans suck too and fall far short of the level of leadership this country needs...but they at least live in reality. They don't try and convince everyone else that women can have penises, and men can give birth. Thats insanity. Period.

 

[titansvolsfaninga]

That's the point, there are poor and middle class whites, BUT they vote against their best interest, every time. There are poor and middle class of every race. The difference is whites votes for people that cut programs that poor whites need. Conservatives campaign on immigration, abortion, and gun rights. None of those issues will help you put food on your table or a roof over your head. Most poor/middle class people live check to check, or 1 emergency away from being SOL. Javier that cuts grass for a living, or work in a poultry plant does not affect me. Those are things I won't do. Hatred makes people vote against their own interest. We live in a global society. We live in a multi-ethnic country. No matter what they say or tell the masses. We can't go back to 1970, 1960, 1920, 1830.

Add to this Medicaid cuts. That affects a lot of rural folks. I have family that lives in Cleveland, Georgia. The closest Hospital is in Gainesville. That's 25-30 minutes away. But hey....yall got it all figured out. No one is leaving rural America behind. They're choosing to vote against progress. Healthcare and internet are scary.

 

[titansvolsfaninga]

Yes.

I would rather my kid be diagnosed as a psychopath or pathological liar than a Democrat. With either of the 1st two problems, theres only 1 serious issue to deal with. In order to be a Democrat in 2025 they would have to be completely detached from logic and reason ...morally bankrupt ...or likely all of the above. Which would mean I failed completely as a parent to prepare them for being a responsible and self sufficient adult. The Republicans suck too and fall far short of the level of leadership this country needs...but they at least live in reality. They don't try and convince everyone else that women can have penises, and men can give birth. Thats insanity. Period.

So wanting childcare and Healthcare is detachment from reality. Wanting clean air and water? Wanting your children to be in a safe learning environment? You think you're a responsible self sufficient adult but your not. Your entire life has been subsidized in some form or fashion. From school, to work, to travel, to Healthcare. But please tell use who is deranged.

 

[hog88]

So wanting childcare and Healthcare is detachment from reality. Wanting clean air and water? Wanting your children to be in a safe learning environment? You think you're a responsible self sufficient adult but your not. Your entire life has been subsidized in some form or fashion. From school, to work, to travel, to Healthcare. But please tell use who is deranged.

LOL

You think only Ds want that stuff? The difference is Ds want all of that paid for by taxes while conservatives understand they have to pay for what they want.

 

[titansvolsfaninga]

Yeah, something aint adding up here. Doubt SALT hurt him that much in GA unless he's living in a huge house with giant property taxes....

Property taxes are 6k this year. House isn't huge. So I'm penalized for being middle class but not rich, got it. We bought our house from $470k right before the pandemic, so it's not inflated. We could sell for a nice profit, but house prices are inflated.
It all adds up, I don't have a reason to lie about taxes. We contribute max to IRAs and 529s.

 

[hog88]

Property taxes are 6k this year. House isn't huge. So I'm penalized for being middle class but not rich, got it. We bought our house from $470k right before the pandemic, so it's not inflated. We could sell for a nice profit, but house prices are inflated.
It all adds up, I don't have a reason to lie about taxes. We contribute max to IRAs and 529s.

I don't think anyone is accusing you of lying. I just don't think you are using all available resources to lower your tax liability.

 

[Wireless1]

Property taxes are 6k this year. House isn't huge. So I'm penalized for being middle class but not rich, got it. We bought our house from $470k right before the pandemic, so it's not inflated. We could sell for a nice profit, but house prices are inflated.
It all adds up, I don't have a reason to lie about taxes. We contribute max to IRAs and 529s.

Where do you live that you pay $6K in property taxes on a $470k house? I'm assuming you pay city, state and county taxes......or you're in Ca, NY or IL

 

[LSU-SIU]

Where do you live that you pay $6K in property taxes on a $470k house? I'm assuming you pay city, state and county taxes......or you're in Ca, NY or IL

My friend pays $9k on a small 1500sf house north of Chicago. Bought the house for less then <300k if I remember correctly.

 

[walkenvol]

That's the point, there are poor and middle class whites, BUT they vote against their best interest, every time. There are poor and middle class of every race. The difference is whites votes for people that cut programs that poor whites need. Conservatives campaign on immigration, abortion, and gun rights. None of those issues will help you put food on your table or a roof over your head. Most poor/middle class people live check to check, or 1 emergency away from being SOL. Javier that cuts grass for a living, or work in a poultry plant does not affect me. Those are things I won't do. Hatred makes people vote against their own interest. We live in a global society. We live in a multi-ethnic country. No matter what they say or tell the masses. We can't go back to 1970, 1960, 1920, 1830.

I do my own grass cutting, but an apx 40 YO white man doesn’t my 3 nearest neighbors yards. Pulls up in his $80K F250 pulling a trailer with $25K of equipment. Nice guy. He gave up his FedEx delivery job 4 years back because he liked the money doing landscaping better. Probably some American folks working part time at Starbucks who might venture into the poultry industry if the pay/hours are attractive. Just cause you don’t want to work at something doesn’t mean every other white man doesn’t also.

 

[walkenvol]

Property taxes are 6k this year. House isn't huge. So I'm penalized for being middle class but not rich, got it. We bought our house from $470k right before the pandemic, so it's not inflated. We could sell for a nice profit, but house prices are inflated.
It all adds up, I don't have a reason to lie about taxes. We contribute max to IRAs and 529s.

Guess I know why so many jack wagons are moving into my east TN area as a $475K house is probably closer to $2K in property tax. Guess the only way to save our peaceful way of like is to dramatically raise taxes?

 

[LouderVol]

Property taxes are 6k this year. House isn't huge. So I'm penalized for being middle class but not rich, got it. We bought our house from $470k right before the pandemic, so it's not inflated. We could sell for a nice profit, but house prices are inflated.
It all adds up, I don't have a reason to lie about taxes. We contribute max to IRAs and 529s.

*First time meme*

welcome to taxes, and the government in general. The Rs aren't immune to creating that squeeze either.

 

[titansvolsfaninga]

Add to this Medicaid cuts. That affects a lot of rural folks. I have family that lives in Cleveland, Georgia. The closest Hospital is in Gainesville. That's 25-30 minutes away. But hey....yall got it all figured out. No one is leaving rural America behind. They're choosing to vote against progress. Healthcare and internet are scary.

 

[marcusluvsvols]

So wanting childcare and Healthcare is detachment from reality. Wanting clean air and water? Wanting your children to be in a safe learning environment? You think you're a responsible self sufficient adult but your not. Your entire life has been subsidized in some form or fashion. From school, to work, to travel, to Healthcare. But please tell use who is deranged.

Also, *you're.

You have no idea about any aspect of my life whatsoever...but you just made up several strawman aspects of it presumably for your own entertainment since they have no basis in reality. Weird. By all means though, you can continue to make up both sides of an argument and really teach yourself a lesson. I have no intention of arguing with you or anyone else.

 

[Carl Pickens]

So is that how it works now? We just assume everyone is embezzling tax dollars unless they immediately prove otherwise?

 

[BernardKingGOAT]

Also, *you're.

You have no idea about any aspect of my life whatsoever...but you just made up several strawman aspects of it presumably for your own entertainment since they have no basis in reality. Weird. By all means though, you can continue to make up both sides of an argument and really teach yourself a lesson. I have no intention of arguing with you or anyone else.

At some point you must realize it's not the Democrats who are creating your grievances. The Republicans aren't really supporting your preferred ideology any better. Our country is made up of a bunch a different people that don't think like me. I'm ok with it. It's the principles for which this country founded, and has worked best with compromise between the two parties. Congress has become dysfunctional because of a cultural divisive ideology brought to you by social media