Trade Wars and Tariffs

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WebbCobb said:
Maybe not the right parlance but what I mean is that Congress has the authority under the US Constitution to set tariffs, not the President. Also, we have a trade deal in place (signed in Trump’s first term) that is supposed to dictates import/export conditions.
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Congress has legislatively given presidents considerable tariff authority. IF11030
 
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VOLS INC. said:
Nice.

I think the people of Canada and Mexico should wake up every morning, face America, and say thank you. Because if we acted like a Superpower from centuries ago, we would take their country and do whatever the heck we wanted with them. Who would stop us? Europe? China? Russia?

Nah.
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To be fair, we did take about 1/3 of Mexico in the 1840s.
 
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gcbvol said:
Agreed. All I'm saying is the southern border is a way bigger deal than up north, which currently has better security.

Now, I will say if we can somehow make a real impact to the southern border, we better make sure we're watching all other avenues for entering. Water is where we're most challenged, I'd guess.
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…particularly with the ever strict adherence to federal laws exhibited on the entire West Coast.
 
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lawgator1 said:
One major economic calamity unfolding in Florida are the condo assessments being applied to buildings older than 30 years due to the collapse of the Surfside condo in Miami a few years back. The Legislature passed very high standards for them to be inspected and shored up, and for cost to be passed on as special assessments to the condo owners.

So, you had retirees from up north buy a condo 15 years or so ago for $250,000, live there, and then wham, a $100,000 assessment comes down the pike, and they are having to sell, sometimes at a loss, and in a market already saturated by new construction.
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Doesn’t this only apply to condos over 4 stories?
 
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KB5252 said:
I'm not going to defend Trump but how do we know Biden hasn't attempted other methods to get our neighbors to the north and south to pull their weight and make concessions for their deficits with us?

I recall Mexico allowing the nationalization of facilities, equipment and product from at least one American company operating there in the last 4 years. That's pretty hostile. Maybe it was time to jerk the chain.
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The idea of a surplus or deficit being controlled by governments is stupid.
Want to fix the deficit? Tell FORD they can't buy their engines from Mexico.
Tell farmers to figure it out with out potash.
Tell the NE that they can't import oil/hydro electric.
Tell US Refiners to spool up refineries to handle US crude.

We have a deficit because of our industries.
 
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jwells said:
The idea of a surplus or deficit being controlled by governments is stupid.
Want to fix the deficit? Tell FORD they can't buy their engines from Mexico.
Tell farmers to figure it out with out potash.
Tell the NE that they can't import oil/hydro electric.
Tell US Refiners to spool up refineries to handle US crude.

We have a deficit because of our industries.
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All of those are wonderful ideas, can we cut the regulations that prevent refineries from retooling, producing potash domestically and make domestic manufacturing prohibitable expensive?
 
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BeardedVol said:
You do realize that it's American citizens that are selling, paying for, and consuming the narcotics that enter the country right?

There will never be a scenario where illegal drugs are imported, grown, manufactured and sold in the United States, as long as there is a market for them.

Starting a public trade war over the comparatively miniscule amount narcotics that cross the Canadian border into the US, is, and always will be a moronic course of action.
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That's not the point.
 
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The actions that tRump has taken put our sovereignty in great risk. He threatened Panama and Greenland together with Canada in this round.

We are all aware that tRump's been very consistent on this threat to annex Canada and Greenland. He's made the same comment to Trudeau back when we signed CUSMA. I am glad that Canadians do notice his consistency across the board, and Canadians are looking at the tariffs as means to further tRump's revival of the Monroe Doctrine,

tRump said the 51st state back in 2018 https://www.trtworld.com/us-and-can...-about-canada-becoming-51st-us-state-18244903

Politico and influencers in Canada who claim that tRump's driven by red herring such as the fentanyl crisis or the issue with our banking regulatory regime being overprotective should be treated as quislings to Canada by this point, for they are doing MAGA sycophants' bidding.
 
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VOLLeeann said:
The actions that tRump has taken put our sovereignty in great risk. He threatened Panama and Greenland together with Canada in this round.

We are all aware that tRump's been very consistent on this threat to annex Canada and Greenland. He's made the same comment to Trudeau back when we signed CUSMA. I am glad that Canadians do notice his consistency across the board, and Canadians are looking at the tariffs as means to further tRump's revival of the Monroe Doctrine,

tRump said the 51st state back in 2018 https://www.trtworld.com/us-and-can...-about-canada-becoming-51st-us-state-18244903

Politico and influencers in Canada who claim that tRump's driven by red herring such as the fentanyl crisis or the issue with our banking regulatory regime being overprotective should be treated as quislings to Canada by this point, for they are doing MAGA sycophants' bidding.
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VOLLeeann said:
The actions that tRump has taken put our sovereignty in great risk. He threatened Panama and Greenland together with Canada in this round.

We are all aware that tRump's been very consistent on this threat to annex Canada and Greenland. He's made the same comment to Trudeau back when we signed CUSMA. I am glad that Canadians do notice his consistency across the board, and Canadians are looking at the tariffs as means to further tRump's revival of the Monroe Doctrine,

tRump said the 51st state back in 2018 https://www.trtworld.com/us-and-can...-about-canada-becoming-51st-us-state-18244903

Politico and influencers in Canada who claim that tRump's driven by red herring such as the fentanyl crisis or the issue with our banking regulatory regime being overprotective should be treated as quislings to Canada by this point, for they are doing MAGA sycophants' bidding.
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I am not here to disagree with your post at all, however, Politico should probably throw in their journalism badge from this point moving forward or put a disclaimer up when you click their links informing the public to not give them much credence. I have read their content for years but much credibility has flown out the window with those goobers.
 
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jwells said:
Arguing trade numbers dollar for dollar is dumb, imo.

It's not Canada's fault that US oil companies refuse to build refineries to handle our crude, nor is it Mexico's that US auto manufacturers choose to import the engines for their cars from Mexico using parts made in Canada.

Arguing over trade surplus/deficits as if the nations, themselves, are buying and selling is just such an oversimplification of global trade. The US has a deficit because US companies made a decision to to business outside of the US, INCLUDING TRUMP, and we don't have the goods to produce and sell.

"They've been very nasty" or whatever he said....for them following THE DEAL HE STRUCK WITH THEM LAST TIME AROUND.
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Do you think US oil companies refusal to build refineries is in anyway related to one party that openly talks about ending their industry on a regular basis?
 
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Vol8188 said:
Do you think US oil companies refusal to build refineries is in anyway related to one party that openly talks about ending their industry on a regular basis?
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What? Why wouldn’t a company invest billions of dollars and decades of time when one of the two major political parties consistently talks about eliminating the industry?
 
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BeardedVol said:
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www.forbes.com

Tariff On Canada Not Justified By U.S. Immigration And Drug Claims

Evidence suggests that the justification for a 25 percent import tariff on Canadian goods and services does not hold up to scrutiny. Here is why.
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Yeah I don't think there's any reality where one can honestly argue that ~24,000 border crossings and 43 lbs of fentanyl warrants a 25% tariff on imports, and destroying a long-standing alliance with a neighbor country.
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Given fentanyl is dosed n micrograms, that’s a massive amount.
 
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