Trump Assassination Attempt(s)

[BigOrangeMojo]

Was the lady's purse hit? Did a ghost try to steal it at the exact time a bullet was flying towards the bleacher?

They werent hit. Period.

 

[BigOrangeMojo]

It's obvious you haven't even looked at this. Everybody on the back row reacts to something while nobody else in the same bleacher appears to react in any noticeable way.

I have. You want to believe it was a conspiracy. They werent hit. End of story

 

[SamRebel35]

They werent hit. Period.

A bullet displaces air as it travels which causes numerous effects such as sonic shock waves and localized pressure cavitation. You can feel the effects of a bullet traveling past you without being hit by it. Not being hit by a bullet isn't a sufficient condition to prove that a bullet wasn't traveling past them.

 

[SamRebel35]

I have. You want to believe it was a conspiracy. They werent hit. End of story

Explain the purse. How the hell does that purse jump out of that lady's hand?

 

[SamRebel35]

Just a weird coincidence that a row of people all have a simultaneous physical reaction to something while nobody else in the bleacher has a similar physical reaction.

 

[Smallvol#1]

Is this you saying this or a quote from the news article???

I said it; it is not in quotes. I gave the MSN link and put their article in quotes. Why are you asking? Just wondered as to why you cared who said it, unless you disagree.

To be perfectly clear, I said, “People really need to condemn violence and also those who support or approve violence as acceptable.”
I don’t care who one is or what views one holds; it is not just the violence; those condoning it are just as culpable.

 

[SamRebel35]

I have. You want to believe it was a conspiracy. They werent hit. End of story

Also, believing there are two shooters doesn't automatically mean it is a conspiracy orchestrated by the secret service. It could've been a conspiracy orchestrated by two incels who played too much call of duty. There were at least two shooters based on that video evidence.

 

[BigOrangeMojo]

Also, believing there are two shooters doesn't automatically mean it is a conspiracy orchestrated by the secret service. It could've been a conspiracy orchestrated by two incels who played too much call of duty. There were at least two shooters based on that video evidence.

No there wasnt two shooters. You would have had multiple more hit if there was...

The angle from water tower doesnt align either. 6th grade geometry again...

You want to believe. Ill live in reality...

 

[SamRebel35]

No there wasnt two shooters. You would have had multiple more hit if there was...

The angle from water tower doesnt align either. 6th grade geometry again...

You want to believe. Ill live in reality...

Who said anything about a water tower? I don't claim to know where the shot originated from. But there is an obvious kinetic event flowing left to right along the back row. It is not disputable. If it isn't a near supersonic projectile, then I don't have any other theories to explain it. But the kinetic event isn't a theory, it is a fact.

 

[BigOrangeMojo]

Who said anything about a water tower? I don't claim to know where the 2nd shot originated from. But there is an obvious kinetic event flowing left to right along the back row. It is not disputable. If it isn't a supersonic trajectory, then I don't have any other theories to explain it. But the kinetic event isn't a theory, it is a fact.

He originally claimed water tower. It appears he moved it some to the right once he got called out on 6th grade geometry. With the L to R reaction you are claiming on the back row, it would have to be almost a couple hundred yards almost behind the stage from a vamtage point with enough elevation to have a shot at Trump (Trump had bleachers behind him). There isnt much back there that fits that description. And then, the 2nd shooter would have to shoot with .01 a second of the first shooter...

Im far likely to buy the speakers right behind the metal bleachers significantly amplifying the shot (when bullet whizzed by Trumps ear piece and mic)

 

[SamRebel35]

He originally claimed water tower. It appears he moved it some to the right once he got called out on 6th grade geometry. With the L to R reaction you are claiming on the back row, it would have to be almost a couple hundred yards almost behind the stage from a vamtage point with enough elevation to have a shot at Trump (Trump had bleachers behind him). There isnt much back there that fits that description. And then, the 2nd shooter would have to shoot with .01 a second of the first shooter...

Im far likely to buy the speakers right behind the metal bleachers significantly amplifying the shot (when bullet whizzed by Trumps ear piece and mic)

I haven't heard anything this guy has said. I'm just watching the video with each person on the back row isolated and their reactions (as well as the lady's purse flying) and then the lack of reaction from everyone else not on the back row.

I'm not trying to draw any conclusions from this about where a shooter could be or who they may have been shooting at. The only thing I'm taking away from this is that it looks like one shot was fired parallel to the back row, which doesn't line up with Crooks or Trump. That's literally all I'm claiming.

 

[Zues1]

Looks like a couple of you people in here need to meet up at Waffle House and settle your disagreements.

 

[MercyPercy]

Sources are saying the second shooter was Mark Wahlberg

 

[volinsd]

Could be Ryan Phillippe as well I guess

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

A program where the govt picks winners and losers based on income.....

Your ROI should not be based on how much you make.....

That doesn't make any sense. The ROI of the program is the same for every dollar put into it.

Are you saying that those that put the most into it shouldn't get more back?

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Sources are saying the second shooter was Mark Wahlberg

nuh uh. They'd all be dead if it was.

 

[MontyPython]

And you worship it

Worship is a tad far, but yes, I absolutely 100% love our Country (i.e. Federal Government).

In contrast, your years of mindless anti-government drivel proves beyond any doubt that you hate our Country and pray for the return of your failed Confederacy.

 

[VolsAgainstTheWorld15]

Worship is a tad far, but yes, I absolutely 100% love our Country (i.e. Federal Government).

In contrast, your years of mindless anti-government drivel proves beyond any doubt that you hate our Country.

One can love this country and what it was founded upon and not like the federal government, especially in its current state where it is larger than the founders ever intended for it to be. Love of country does not equal love of government.

 

[hog88]

Worship is a tad far, but yes, I absolutely 100% love our Country (i.e. Federal Government).

In contrast, your years of mindless anti-government drivel proves beyond any doubt that you hate our Country and pray for the return of your failed Confederacy.

Our country is our people and not our federal government, the endless expansion of the federal bureaucracy ended “a government of the people by the people for the people”. It is now a government of the few by the few and for the elite.

Your second statement is pure idiocy that I bet sounded good in your head as you typed it.

 

[LouderVol]

Your moniker - SpaceCoastVol - big fan?

NASA. The sole reason the space coast exists.

*cough*

SEEMS YOU BE THE GUBMENT FAN BOY.

Had an uncle who worked for NASA and several space companies. He emphatically said the reason we weren't more in space is because of the government's, including NASA, inefficiency and waste.

 

[LouderVol]

How in the world do you claim Social Security / Medicare is straight loss? Folks paid for these benefits their entire working careers. There would be an abundance of funds if the government didn’t borrow from the fund. Me and everyone else would have been more than happy to have kept those dollars and invested them ourselves but Uncle Sam knew better.

You ask how I can claim SS is a loss, and then go and give me two reasons in your very post.

no there wouldn't be an abundance, we just wouldn't have the immediate (next decade) problem that we do have. its a Ponzi scheme, it always needs more money coming in than previously so that it can pay the previous round. If our population/income stagnated SS would go belly up super fast. because its a loss.

people who don't pay a dime into SS get money out of it. how can that be? they do that by taking money away from what an individual could/should earn, and distribute that wealth to others.

from the social security agency itself

Internal Real Rates of Return

www.ssa.gov

"Because the Social Security program has operated on a largely pay-as-you-go (PAYGO) basis, the level of contributions of each generation of workers is not directly related to the benefits they will receive. Under a PAYGO plan, benefits are not based on the accumulation of individual contributions,"

hey no loss people, explain these beauties: "The payroll-tax rate would begin to increase from the present law amount of 12.4 percent beginning in 2042. The payroll-tax rate increases to 17.01 percent in 2043 and continues to increase year-by-year until reaching 18.32 percent in 2078. It is expected that, under this scenario, further increases in the payroll tax rate would be needed after 2078 due to continuing increases in life expectancy." "(combined employer and employee tax went from 2 percent in 1940 to 12.4 percent starting in 1990)"

"For each sex, family grouping, and year-of-birth cohort the internal rates of return decrease as earnings increase.This is because the benefit formula is weighted toward beneficiaries with lower earnings."

who cares if you are screwing your children, you got yours and that's all that matter right?
"For the Increased Payroll Tax scenario (tables 2 and 5), the internal rates of return generally decrease after the 1985 birth cohort. These decreases in the internal rates of return result from the increasing tax rates under Increased Payroll Tax for years beginning with 2042. However, for the 1943 to 1973 birth cohorts, trends in rates vary from series to series for the same reasons as in the Present Law Scheduled scenario as these cohorts are not affected by the payroll tax increases."

 

[BigOrangeMojo]

That doesn't make any sense. The ROI of the program is the same for every dollar put into it.

Are you saying that those that put the most into it shouldn't get more back?

Im saying that if you make $30,000 a year or $150,000 a year, you should get the same rate of return on what you put in.

The average high income earner will have a negative return. They will put more into the syatem than they will take out. The average low income earner will get a mid single digit return (4-6%).

SS is just another form of forced wealth redistribution.

Someone who earns at/above cap will have to live to mid 80s to "break even". The average to to mid income earner will "break even" in early to mid 70s....

 

[MontyPython]

Our country is our people and not our federal government, the endless expansion of the federal bureaucracy ended “a government of the people by the people for the people”. It is now a government of the few by the few and for the elite.

Your second statement is pure idiocy that I bet sounded good in your head as you typed it.

Wrong. Your ignorance is showing again, Hogg.

Without our federal government, we have no country. Ever heard of the Constitution?

Yeah, that thing our founding fathers created back in the day... it created our federal government. Without it, our country is not a country.

And, yes, your disdain of the federal government, conspiracy theories, love of the southern confederacy and hatred of Lincoln for blowing it all up are evident to all.

COUNTRY​

"A country is a nation, a body of land with one government. Also, rural areas outside cities and towns are called the country."

There are many countries in the world: places that have a central government and a common identity. America was once just a bunch of colonies of England. It wasn't until they fought for independence from England that America became a country. Also, "the country" is any place that's away from cities and rural: the country has farms and open spaces. Country life is quieter than city life — except for the early morning roosters.

 

[MontyPython]

Had an uncle who worked for NASA and several space companies. He emphatically said the reason we weren't more in space is because of the government's, including NASA, inefficiency and waste.

I don't disagree. NASA has been proven inferior to SpaceX in some if not many respects. But... and there's a big but...

What about the fact that SpaceX is largely controlled by one person, Elon Musk? Lately, he's become more and more political - purportedly he's donating $45M per month to the Trump campaign - and he's becoming more and more outspoken against our own government.

Russians are reportedly testing new anti-satellite weapons in space. Chinese are launching more satellites as we speak. Most rational people view these countries as our 'enemies'. But, what if Elon Musk - and hence SpaceX - don't? What if the political views of (in this case) the richest man in the world don't jive with our own government's positions? We've already seen this play out with Starlink within the war between Russia and Ukraine.

What power, if any, does our government hold over SpaceX? When (or does) it become a problem that space travel / exploration is effectively controlled by a singular private firm?

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Invest in what? Another pyramid scheme?

The financial system is not based on money, its based on a money substitute i.e. credit. That credit system must expand at an exponential rate, however humans are unable to supply and/or demand the exponential rate i.e. interest for long... usually a generation or so. We're past midnight with the current system, eventually it will have to reset. SS/MC are just ponzi schemes on top of the real ponzi scheme.

People are lucky it didn't blow up in 2008-2010, thank your lucky stars you got a few more years.

If you have doubts go graph a rate of interest either compounded or simple, you don't have to believe me. Hint, it goes vertical at this point i.e. 60-90 years.

Interest and exponential growth are very easy to understand but somehow humans continue to ignore the Mathematical outcome. Don't say you weren't warned, its in just about every religious text or you could have just graphed it out in high school.

This one is going to be the biggest fireworks in the history of mankind when it goes.

We're all just playing pretend.

These people expect infinite growth in a finite world.