Trump Assassination Attempt(s)

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lawgator1 said:
95% of Trump's campaign has been get Biden. The respective bases of both parties have made it clear that they are much more voting AGAINST the other guy, or their apparent institutional backers, as voting for theirs.
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Trump was all about getting Biden, before Biden was even the nominee in 2020. Let's not forget how Trump wanted Vladimir Zelensky to make an appearance on CNN to announce an investigation into the Biden's.
 
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Sgt_Nick_Fury said:
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This is why you shouldn't be too cruel to leftists or as a Christian, non-believers. People change. Impatient Christians will condemn and complain about non-believers that mock them and act horrendously but God loves that person as much as the people going into church and 10-20 years down the line, that person can change. It is hard for us to see that in our limited vision.

Sadly, this radicalized gunman will never change. He went out of life as a violent individual and I fear what his fate will be.
 
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McDad said:
You posted "should not move the principal off the stage". Based on context, I am thinking that's a typo. Correct?
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It is not a typo. At that moment the most secure action is to get Trump to the ground and cover him even if a shot wasn't fired. Until the guys with the black bdu's come out he goes nowhere. In this instance, the time he is on the ground the agents are doing medical assessments to ensure no other holes are in him. When Cat has secured a path to vehicle then he is moved.
It seems counter intuitive but a secondary threat assessment needs to be done for other bad guys.
 
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Tman44 said:
I certainly agree with you. My point was that a democrat on this board is trying to propagate lies about the shooter in order to smear conservatives. People need to understand that type of rhetoric for what it is and condemn it.
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A lot of Republicans would be doing the same if they were in that spot as well. Let's say you had a shooter nearly assassinate Biden that was a registered Democrat but donated to conservative causes and shouted conservative ideas. People would be finger pointing. People today are hard-pressed to admit they are wrong. Clay Travis just did a podcast about that and the media.

In a lot of ways, it would be better if we let people say the unhinged, radical comments and then tried to back them away from those comments rather than keeping things bottled up inside them until it explodes.
 
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lawgator1 said:
I'd say that 98 % of Biden campaign has been get Trump and a little less, but not much, say 95% of Trump's campaign has been get Biden. The respective bases of both parties have made it clear that they are much more voting AGAINST the other guy, or their apparent institutional backers, as voting for theirs.

Trump has a chance this week to turn that around for himself. Appears he will take it. Let's hope so.

Problem for Biden is that its going to be very hard for his campaign to convince people to vote FOR him given his age and associated problems. Even the last two weeks after the debate his sole argument to remain the nominee is his claim that he's the only one who has shown he can beat Trump. I'm not sure that was a compelling argument last week, even less sure now.
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Do think there is a chance that they will both try to at least attempt to stick to their recent unity claims? I mean, as much as possible late in a campaign. Or was this just a tactical or knee jerk reaction with no real chance or true commitment?
 
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DirtyDawg said:
Do think there is a chance that they will both try to at least attempt to stick to their recent unity claims? I mean, as much as possible late in a campaign. Or was this just a tactical or knee jerk reaction with no real chance or true commitment?
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The candidates will but their bases (which they only loosely can control) will not.

For example, Trump and his campaign have yet to say anything negative about the Secret Service but tons of MAGA supporters are making challenges about it.

Hollywood, MSNBC, and others will still continue their rhetoric after a few weeks but I truly think that Biden and the Democratic party, itself, will tone down rhetoric.
 
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n_huffhines said:
Bro, are you in the right thread?
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"Bro" I have always been right in the head, I am still wondering when you are getting in touch with reality though...wake up from being "woke" up. You been fighting for the people out to destroy your own future all along. You continue to demonize those trying to free you just like "they" brain washed you to do. It's okay to realize you been played and wrong a very long time.
 
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Carp said:
1. Young people are highly impressionable and are easily radicalized. Would certainly not be out of the ordinary for him to change political affiliations.

2. He donated to a Democrat PAC. So quite clearly he wasn't "staunchly to the right" if he was donating to a Democrat PAC.

3. What is his classmate considering "stauchly to the right?" If his classmate was far left, they might consider someone like Tulsi Gabbard "staunchly to the right".
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Carp said:
1. Young people are highly impressionable and are easily radicalized. Would certainly not be out of the ordinary for him to change political affiliations.

2. He donated to a Democrat PAC. So quite clearly he wasn't "staunchly to the right" if he was donating to a Democrat PAC.

3. What is his classmate considering "stauchly to the right?" If his classmate was far left, they might consider someone like Tulsi Gabbard "staunchly to the right".
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I'm not one to buy into the new trend of using mental health as an excuse for bad behavior. Whether it's throwing objects at performing artists on stage, the guy who assaulted a crying biracial infant on a plane, or going gun happy with wild, wild west shootings of innocents. Just the same, in my work, I have seen how bullying can break a person, make them do things they otherwise wouldn't. I'll never forget the diminutive Navajo teen I worked with. Had a facial defect. Got mocked daily, pushed, hit. Neither I nor other staff members could always be around to stop it. But one day, she stopped it. She had a large paper bag on returning from a home visit. She lived on a reservation. I saw the bag, didn't think much about it. Kids bring all kinds of stuff from home visits. It wasn't until I saw her main tormentors fleeing down the hall, that I found out that bag had two obviously young diamondbacks. She released them in the dorm room of her bullies. Tried to close the door on them, but adrenalin and fear got them out. The bullying stopped. I was amazed, I can't imagine that little girl catching one, let alone two of the darn things. Putting them in paper grocery bags and bringing to the facility. Her parents were shocked too, because they drove the kid from home, and had no idea she had the things. Back to the point. Bullying can cause people to be like a tool or a machine, they can break. Not to excuse this guy's gunning for Trump, but who knows what combination of events that caused a registered Republican to take the path this young man took? Fortunately (sort of), in both cases, the intended harm failed.
 
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volbound1700 said:
The candidates will but their bases (which they only loosely can control) will not.

For example, Trump and his campaign have yet to say anything negative about the Secret Service but tons of MAGA supporters are making challenges about it.

Hollywood, MSNBC, and others will still continue their rhetoric after a few weeks but I truly think that Biden and the Democratic party, itself, will tone down rhetoric.
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That seems logical. I hadn’t formed an opinion so far, but your take makes sense to me. Both of their campaigns toning it down and letting their more extreme supporters and the more extreme media personalities do the dirty work seems a likely outcome.
 
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McDad said:
If you wanted to look for it I think it was a post by Rocky Top 85 and also quoted in a post by 85 Sugar balls. I think both of those were yesterday.

Eta... lmao,
I'm doing the voice to text feature and I love how Google translated 85 sugarVol. I'm leaving it for posterity. And I hope it becomes his new nickname

@85SugarVol
I wanted to make absolutely sure you saw this. LOL
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volbound1700 said:
A lot of Republicans would be doing the same if they were in that spot as well. Let's say you had a shooter nearly assassinate Biden that was a registered Democrat but donated to conservative causes and shouted conservative ideas. People would be finger pointing. People today are hard-pressed to admit they are wrong. Clay Travis just did a podcast about that and the media.

In a lot of ways, it would be better if we let people say the unhinged, radical comments and then tried to back them away from those comments rather than keeping things bottled up inside them until it explodes.
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It is a super low-character move to try and misrepresent the shooter's allegiance in order to smear your political opponents. Low character words and deeds are indicative of democrats. This was just another example of such base behavior.
 
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headhunter15 said:
Man, if both sides would do that. Would breath a small sigh of relief.
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I'm sorry, but this did happen. These are crimes. People should be investigated, fired, even prosecuted. This needs to go all the way to the top with full public exposure. Trust Biden? The man that repeatedly promised to blow up the Nord Stream pipeline if they tried to sell gas to Germany. Then he did blow it up and lied over and over again about it. Biden will do anything to stop Trump. ANYTHING!!!!!
 
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