Trump Assassination Attempt(s)

I didn’t realize women had such a presence in the secret service. I’m all for equality, but when the director is a woman, her assistant is a woman, and when 2 people assigned to Trumps personal detail are women…. You have to think they’ve moved beyond equality and into the realm of negligence due to a desire to be cool by liberal standards.

There is nothing wrong with having women in the SS, but they need to be qualified for the job and not just be there because they are "women" to meet a quota.
 
Richard Goldinger, the Butler County district attorney, says it is “surprising” that the shooter was able to position himself on a nearby rooftop before opening fire at the Trump rally.⁠
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Speaking to MSNBC, he said that “I do know we had some law enforcement in that building, which is even more surprising that he was able to get up there”, adding the unit was normally used by a glass manufacturing company.
JUst had a fleeting thought. There could have been a local stationed at a place to keep eyes on the building but walked away from post to see DJT's rally in person, go to the bathroom, etc.

But again, that ladder is a real problem for me to work around. There's no way a ladder could've been placed by local LEOs to give them quick access to the roof is there???
 
I don't think RT or anyone, including me, is making excuses about what occurred. I think we are saying there could be legitimate reasons for the event that have nothing to do with conspiracy or deviation from SOP.

I will absolutely agree what happened should not happen. But before we go scorched earth and burn the SS leadership and agents to the ground, we need to wait until the facts (especially the facts we aren't privy to) come out.
We won't find out the truth. We'll hear what they want to spin
 
Says the guy who doesnt think the former POTUS being 1 inch away from getting his head blown off isnt a colossal failure of security...
I’m open to the idea of a colossal failure, and I agree that somebody getting a shot on the former president is a failure. It puts the ball in USSS court to answer all of those questions. It’s the first time in 43 years that they’ve ****ed up to this degree and I can see plausible answers to some of the questions that are being asked so I’m open to hearing the answers.
 
Translation: I don't have real reasons. I am just repeating what I hear on MSNBC and CNN.

And I am not MAGA by the way. I haven't voted Trump in any election to date. I haven't voted for any Democrats either, save a couple of local races where I actually knew the candidate. I would be best described as a moderate Republican.
Unlike the rabid MAGAs and stealth MAGAs here, I don't care who you did or didn't vote for. I can only be puzzled why you all care about who I vote for. As for your opening statement, you're just admitting you're too dense or lazy to read back on posts only from yesterday regarding Hitler and Trump. Trash fishing, as it were.
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Saw this just now. , Sorry this is such BS.
She could have dismissed this case months ago, if she thought the appointment of a special prosecutor violated the Constitution. She saw Clarence Thomas's opinion as an opening. This is ridiculous. I don't think it will help Trump at all to be seen as benefitting from an obviously biased judge, who he appointed. It will definitely be appealed.
 
Well, of course, she is going to cite a different reason. She could have dismissed this case for that reason months ago, however.

This will be heavily scrutinized .... Her reasoning is a crock.
No. She allowed both sides to present their argument on the Spec. Counsel issue and then made a decision. That is the proper thing to do in gathering information for any appeals. This is unlike corrupt judge Merchan who did not allow arguments on key issues in NY.
 
And yet his political donations and posts say otherwise
I’m a registered democrat. That doesn’t mean anything
Agreed. Of all the ways to try to figure out motive, using voter registration alone is probably the absolute worst.

I registered to vote as a freshman in college. I registered as a D, primarily because an R was in office and I wanted to choose who I thought would be the best D if the R was to be beaten in the general. After school, I worked for years for an elected official who was a D. I maintained that registration so I could vote for my boss in the primaries. The county in which I live is primarily (80% or more) R. When the old boss was finally defeated many years later, I changed to an R so I could have a legit voice in my local elections.

Looking at my registrations, would anyone know anything real about my electoral preferences or my political preferences? No, not really.

I admit it, my registrations have always been about maximizing my (minimal) impact in any given election. It says very little about my political leanings, and far less about who I would shoot, and why I would shoot them, if I were disposed to take another person's life, (which I am NOT, just to be clear.) Heck, it doesn't even tell you who I voted for in any given election! It is a poor independent factor to make any consequential determination about a person.
 
I don't think RT or anyone, including me, is making excuses about what occurred. I think we are saying there could be legitimate reasons for the event that have nothing to do with conspiracy or deviation from SOP.

I will absolutely agree what happened should not happen. But before we go scorched earth and burn the SS leadership and agents to the ground, we need to wait until the facts (especially the facts we aren't privy to) come out.

Look, I think you're just trying to be a lovable contrarian. RT is doing his best to defend the indefensible. Two completely different motives.

BTW I don't think this was some grand conspiracy I think it was typical government ineptitude.
 
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No. She allowed both sides to present their argument on the Spec. Counsel issue and then made a decision. That is the proper thing to do in gathering information for any appeals. This is unlike corrupt judge Merchan who did not allow arguments on key issues in NY.
This decision could have been made months ago ..... It is a crock, and will be appealed. There will be outrage over this.

Cannon has already had one ruling in Trump's favor overturned (the appointment of a special master). This should be as well.
 
No they're not. Trump is in charge of his life bro. If Trump wants to go somewhere, they have to go.

If they were in charge, he would be in a basement.
I am not so certain about that. In an emergency situation, I do not think POTUS has any say.
 
Agreed. Of all the ways to try to figure out motive, using voter registration alone is probably the absolute worst.

I registered to vote as a freshman in college. I registered as a D, primarily because an R was in office and I wanted to choose who I thought would be the best D if the R was to be beaten in the general. After school, I worked for years for an elected official who was a D. I maintained that registration so I could vote for my boss in the primaries. The county in which I live is primarily (80% or more) R. When the old boss was finally defeated many years later, I changed to an R so I could have a legit voice in my local elections.

Looking at my registrations, would anyone know anything real about my electoral preferences or my political preferences? No, not really.

I admit it, my registrations have always been about maximizing my (minimal) impact in any given election. It says very little about my political leanings, and far less about who I would shoot, and why I would shoot them, if I were disposed to take another person's life, (which I am NOT, just to be clear.) Heck, it doesn't even tell you who I voted for in any given election! It is a poor independent factor to make any consequential determination about a person.

Being involved in the past with Republican party, they have started to look more at trends than one-times. (This is mostly for candidates). I think there was a rule that you had to vote 3 out of the last 5 chances in the Republican party to be eligible for office (so by 3 of 5, you can't also just not vote, it has to be show up and vote). It will also report if you voted D.
 
Look, I think you're just trying to be a lovable contrarian. RT is doing his best to defend the indefensible. Two completely different motives.

BTW I don't think this was some grand conspiracy I think it was typical government ineptitude.
I’m open to the idea of a colossal failure, and I agree that somebody getting a shot on the former president is a failure. It puts the ball in USSS court to answer all of those questions. It’s the first time in 43 years that they’ve ****ed up to this degree and I can see plausible answers to some of the questions that are being asked so I’m open to hearing the answers.
 
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It will be interesting to see how long the truce on heated rhetoric lasts.

My guess is both conventions reflect it.

But I'd give it maybe 10 days after that. Hope I'm wrong.

Democrats may go back to using proxies (media and Hollywood) and Republicans may do the same. Basically have people not in the party say all the bad stuff so you don't have your hands red.
 
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