Trump Assassination Attempt(s)

[CagleMtnVol]

Pearl Harbor, 9/11 and the Trump Shooting: The Dumbest Major Security Failures in U.S. History​

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The two greatest intelligence and security failures in U.S. history were the totemic sneak attacks on Pearl Harbor and 9/11.

Separated by 60 years, both failures shared striking similarities. Clues to both were available in the raw intelligence gathered by the U.S. but they slipped through the gaps of multi-agency cooperation, poorly focused resources and a failure of imagination. The failings were profound but at least they were understandable—the security failure on Saturday that allowed a sniper to fire shots at President Donald Trump was just plain dumb.

How on earth could you not secure the single most obvious elevated sniper position directly overlooking the site of a presidential candidate’s speech?

The Dumbest Major Security Failure in U.S. History

Lessons learned from the two other biggest security and intelligence lapses in U.S. history sparked enormous shakeups. Why hadn’t the same happened with the Secret Service?

www.thedailybeast.com

Unfortunately just wait until Biden's Border Policy comes into play down the road.

 

[StarRaider]

I know. I get it.

But think about the (I assume) 100s of hours of debriefing, training, chain of command, etc. That stuff doesn't just get tossed aside.

gonna stand down but i still have the industrial sized can of festivus whoopass that i want to open up on these people

 

[IBlvNTmWrk]

Mayorkis won't leave until he is escorted out in January. Hopefully that POS will never work in government again.

Maybe we can get him and Fauci hanged on the same PPV event.

I understand the anger, and I'm sure you're just joking with the comment, but isn't this the kind of rhetoric that needs to end? It's becoming too much of a habit when expressing one's opinions, and we need to do better.

 

[McDad]

All I see in Crooks' school picture is a awkward kid. I know he tried assassinate DJT, but I feel sorry for the kid he was and what he became.

 

[KptVFL]

It's 2024 why haven't people learned to hold there phones horizontally when taking pictures or videos?. Also make sure it's set to at least 1080p.

Lol. Right? Uprihht is how my wife records and it drives me crazy.

 

[McDad]

gonna stand down but i still have the industrial can of festivus whoopass that i want to open up on these people

Hope I'm invited this year.

 

[BigOrangeMojo]

Donald Trump could give a speech in the north endzone of Neyland. Someone with an AR can climb up 30 rows in the South endzone, pull out an AR, wait a couple of minutes, be pointed out by several other people, and the SS does nothing until he gets off a few clear line shots 130 yards away because he's outside their perimeter and the local rent a cops have jurisdiction......

 

[volfanhill]

SIAP, but can’t link but there’s a report saying a cop actually approached the shooter beforehand? And backed away when the shooter aimed at him?

Correct

 

[norrislakevol]

or maybe all these people telling them there is a guy on the roof with a rifle???

Look at that little dweeb. Plenty of time to empty a mag into him.

 

[BreatheUT]

He might be on vacation, has a family emergency or other family event, laid up in a hospital, or worse.

Yeah that's it.

 

[jmacvols1]

 

[McDad]

Donald Trump could give a speech in the north endzone of Neyland. Someone with an AR can climb up 30 rows in the South endzone, pull out an AR, wait a couple of minutes, be pointed out by several other people, and the SS does nothing until he gets off a few clear line shots 130 yards away because he's outside their perimeter......

Have you searched for any resources outlining what a SOP perimeter distance is? I know you've referenced Millington several times.

 

[KptVFL]

SIAP, but can’t link but there’s a report saying a cop actually approached the shooter beforehand? And backed away when the shooter aimed at him?

Have seen that. Apparently fired his shot immediately following, if true.

If true, probably why we're not square in the middle of sh#t we've never came close to seeing today.

 

[85SugarVol]

K-town isn't.

No, that’s BB.

K-Town is an angry little failed Criminal Justice Major. Outraged over the student loan debt he now carries as a reminder of his poor choices.

 

[BigOrangeMojo]

Have you searched for any resources outlining what a SOP perimeter distance is? I know you've referenced Millington several times.

New York, back in 2016/esrly 2017, said several hundred yards when they were griping about paying for it...

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

All I see in Crooks' school picture is a awkward kid. I know he tried assassinate DJT, but I feel sorry for the kid he was and what he became.

Yeah, we had those kinds of kids among us when we grew up too. They're called losers.

 

[norrislakevol]

All I see in Crooks' school picture is a awkward kid. I know he tried assassinate DJT, but I feel sorry for the kid he was and what he became.

I don't. 10 percent of life is what actually happens to us. 90 percent of life is how we react to it. He chose poorly.

 

[volfanhill]

Hope I'm invited this year.

For the last time, the feats of strength is not done in our "birthday suits"

 

[McDad]

New York, back in 2016/esrly 2017, said several hundred yards when they were griping about paying for it...

Several hundred makes me think 300 - 500 yards. Over 2½ to 4 times the distance of Butler, PA.?

 

[volsforever27]

Have seen that. Apparently fired his shot immediately following, if true.

If true, probably why we're not square in the middle of sh#t we've never came close to seeing today.

A podcast I had on mentioned it was an AP report, but I didn’t see it.

 

[StarRaider]

sounds like a pseudolawyer on VN

 

[hog88]

My post this am:
I admit I know nothing of SS tech, techniques, or SOP.

Wouldn't the SS snipers need to make sure this isnt some kid wanting to get a view of Trump with a telescope or a photographer with a telescopic lens before they start blasting?

At that distance with decent optics which I’m sure the SS has, they could easily differentiate between a camera/telescope and a rifle.

 

[McDad]

I don't. 10 percent of life is what actually happens to us. 90 percent of life is how we react to it. He chose poorly.

I agree he made poor choices and also believe he is responsible for his choices.

But I'm thinking about the kid that was because of his picture.

 

[BigOrangeMojo]

Several hundred makes me think 300 - 500 yards. Over 2½ to 4 times the distance of Butler, PA.?

That sounds about right. You cant stop all threats but 130-140 yards is nothing for a moderate shot...

 

[jmacvols1]

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#BREAKING: The Secret Service are blaming the local Law enforcement and says it was tasked with securing properties surrounding Trump’s rally

#Butler | #Pennsylvania

The Secret Service has blamed local law enforcement for failing to secure the rooftop from which gunman Thomas Matthew Crooks attempted to assassinate former President Donald Trump. They insisted that the rooftop was outside the perimeter the federal agency was responsible for protecting. Securing and patrolling the factory grounds of AGR International Inc located about 130 yards from the stage where Trump was speaking on Saturday, was the responsibility of local Pennsylvania police, according to Secret Service representative Anthony Guglielmi, as reported by the New York Times. The Secret Service was tasked only with covering the grounds where Trump’s rally took place, while local police were recruited to assist with those efforts and secure the area outside the rally.