Trump Assassination Attempt(s)

[BigOrangeMojo]

Incompetence, negligence, or intentionality are pretty much the only three options that I see trying to look at it objectively

I'll expand on your criteria a little bit but agree in principle with you.

Human Error
Incompetence
Neglience
Willful Neglience
Intentional

Safe to say this goes beyond basic human error. It's not an intentional hit or Trump would be dead right now.

It's one of the other 3....

 

[Majors]

It will be interesting to see how the media spins this all the way to the election.

No more Project 2025 talk it seems

 

[volinbham]

I'm just saying, when you hear hoofbeats think horses, not zebras.

I was agreeing with you

 

[LadyVolette]

I'll expand on your criteria a little bit but agree in principle with you.

Human Error
Incompetence
Neglience
Willful Neglience
Intentional

Safe to say this goes beyond basic human error. It's not an intentional hit or Trump would be dead right now.

It's one of the other 3....

Okay, I don’t disagree lol

 

[Zues1]

Just another loser

 

[Ritzwatch]

remember when turdo was complaining that the BaseVols were having to play too many games lol

I miss TN baseball!

 

[creekdipper]

Same with the bullseye comment. That's the point I was making that you clearly missed while attempting to take a shot at me.

Except that the "bloodbath" term was clearly used in the context of a speech about the auto industry and clearly referring to the loss of jobs and failure of manufacters in that particular industry. It had nothing to with loss of human life or spilling of human blood.

Biden's reference, while supposedly a figure of speech, was aimed directly at one specific individual...Donald Trump.

Huge difference, and really no calc comparison between the two remarks.

 

[Vol737]

Sauce Gardner catching so much hate from liberals right now on X.

Not surprised at all. The Left…

 

[Weezer]

I wonder if someone on the other extreme will now try and target Biden? Or if we'll see more attempts on Trump? The political division in this country is off the rails. You have more and more people clinging to their political ideology as the only way forward. This country was built on the art of compromise, but no one wants to do that anymore. It's become all or nothing.

 

[InVOLuntary]

Same with the bullseye comment. That's the point I was making that you clearly missed while attempting to take a shot at me.

It's how you view it. It's fuel on the fire of all the rhetoric. How did old Joe mean it? Was he talking about nerf guns? The only way to take Trump's comment out of context was to eliminate much of it. Biden's is inflammatory in its whole.

 

[Orangeburst]

That Biden national speech, just to demonize MAGA, was unconcionable.

 

[BowlBrother85]

You posted a 3 month poll within margin or error. Here is a recent poll for those 18-34 (most likely to file protest vote).

https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2024-07-11/poll-rfk-jr-bests-trump-but-biden-suffers-more-in-a-wider-race

Common sense speaking, Biden's voters are far more apatheic and likely to sit out or make protest vote....

And Fox is giving him this platform for that reason. A vote for RFK is a vote not for Biden...

Democrats don't watch Fox News .... and RFK Jr.'s highest profile policy position (anti-vax) is not popular at all with the left-wing. Biden will inspire nothing but apathy, but there isn't going to be some large protest vote for RFK Jr. among Democrats either. Whenever you see positive things being spoken about RFK Jr. on the internet, it is invariably from a right-wing echo chamber such as the VolNation politics forum. It is never on a liberal site.

 

[lawgator1]

SIAP

As I said elsewhere, this notion was put out there amidst all the noise of immediate reaction amd uncertainty, and it got picked up full bore by the right wing social media echo chamber, which is often the case with them, to the point that MAGA members, especially those that get their news from such sources, simply accepted it because it was seen in more than one forum.


I do hope some university group takes the time after this settles down to go back, find the source of the original false claim, then explore how it took on a life of its own like this

Quite a commentary on the need to beware these blogs that depend on clicks and reposts. Heck, there was a picture and claim here last night of a guy from ANTIFA saying he was the shooter and had been arrested.

Where did that come from and what was the agenda ?

 

[creekdipper]

Just another loser

And yet his name will be recorded for posterity whereas the murdered fire chief's name will be forgotten within a few days.

I hope the chief's family will receive his full pension if he was due one upon retirement.

 

[BernardKingGOAT]

The song Family Snapshot by Peter Gabriel comes to mind - inspired by the book about the guy who tried to kill George Wallace. Guy wanted fame. It's worth a listen but pretty haunting -- I'll wait a few days before I listen.

Easily my favorite Gabriel song. I think from the "melt" album.

 

[WoodsmanVol]

No more Project 2025 talk it seems

It will return because it is a Republican Talmud, and they mean business.

 

[BigOrangeMojo]

Democrats don't watch Fox News .... and RFK Jr.'s highest profile policy position (anti-vax) is not popular at all with the left-wing. Biden will inspire nothing but apathy, but there isn't going to be some large protest vote for RFK Jr. among Democrats either. Whenever you see positive things being spoken about RFK Jr. on the internet, it is invariably from a right-wing echo chamber such as the VolNation politics forum. It is never on a liberal site.

Maybe RFK goes on to Fox News because CNN and MSNBC wont give him the same time since it hurts Biden...

 

[StarRaider]

 

[WoodsmanVol]

I wonder if someone on the other extreme will now try and target Biden? Or if we'll see more attempts on Trump? The political division in this country is off the rails. You have more and more people clinging to their political ideology as the only way forward. This country was built on the art of compromise, but no one wants to do that anymore. It's become all or nothing.

Expect both. Humans gonna human.

 

[InVOLuntary]

Because those facts came out later.

See how responsible reporting works?

Let me get this straight....So you think CNN reporting that there was an attempted assassination within about 5 min of the shooting would be taking a journalistic leap?

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

 

[lawgator1]

I was agreeing with you

I know, and I was adding to the notion that this is going to end up being a fairly simple thing

 

[LadyVolette]

I won't keep harping on this but what is odd about the left attempting to label people as Hitler or a threat to democracy, is that during 1930's Germany it was the media who helped to demonize the Jews and label them leading to dehumanizing them.

IKR it’s crazy.. it’s like they they trying to bring back into fashion like bell bottoms or wedge shoes.. rampant anti-semitism and calling everyone Nazis, when they are in fact, not Nazis lol

 

[BowlBrother85]

That Biden national speech, just to demonize MAGA, was unconcionable.

What better way to drive home a point than to misspell an adjective that has been employed.

"UNCONSCIONABLE"

 

[Orangeburst]

Frank Luntz just said lets blame ourselves as well. First time I have seen anyone say that.