Our food is not safe. I blame Canada!!

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n_huffhines said:
I realized that and changed it but you are johnny on the spot. The original convo was about messing with God's food, which we've always done.

So what are the side effects? Let's see the science.
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Oh, here you go with this. Just like with C19, the "science" is going to be incentivized to lean in favor of who is sponsoring the studies. The "science" is influenced by people with conflicts of interest.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Oh, here you go with this. Just like with C19, the "science" is going to be incentivized to lean in favor of who is sponsoring the studies. The "science" is influenced by people with conflicts of interest.
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Then what are you basing your fears on, if not science? What are the side effects I should be worried about?
 
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n_huffhines said:
I realized that and changed it but you are johnny on the spot. The original convo was about messing with God's food, which we've always done.
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Even in that original discussion, most people understand "messing with God's food" as splicing and dicing DNA in Dr. Frankenstein's lab, not Farmer Joe breeding cattle or Aztecs domesticating maize.

I had to underline most people because you obviously don't seem to see this distinction...

n_huffhines said:
So what are the side effects? Let's see the science. Or is this a claim on the level of big pharma and food producers conspiring to kill us all?
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The conspiracy is in making profits for both groups. Like you said and like anyone with common sense knows, you don't kill your customer base. You have to keep your customers alive for as long as possible.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
The conspiracy is in making profits for both groups. Like you said and like anyone with common sense knows, you don't kill your customer base. You have to keep your customers alive for as long as possible.
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Big food goal = mass produce cheap food people want

Big pharma goal = keep people alive

What is the part they had to conspire about?

Again, what are the side effects I should be worried about?
 
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n_huffhines said:
Then what are you basing your fears on, if not science? What are the side effects I should be worried about?
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I'm basing it on the fear of the unknown, not science in this particular instance. In the same way I rejected the C19 vaccine on fear of the unknown.

Again, two things wrong with "the science":
1. Clear conflicts of interest across the board, so the majority of data is compromised
2. By the time you really could get true data about the effects of laboratory modified foods, you need to have decades of studies... multiple generations of studies to satisfy me or most people.
 
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n_huffhines said:
So they conspired to share profits, even tho they're just doing what normal incentives would drive them to do?



Sounds about right.
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It goes back much further of course, but these last four years have taught us all about "The Science" and more importantly, what we're told about it. It's not good.
 
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n_huffhines said:
So they conspired to share profits
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It is just a mutually beneficial relationship.

n_huffhines said:
, even tho they're just doing what normal incentives would drive them to do?
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You would think that the food and pharma industries are there to provide clean food to people and heal people, respectively...

Just like our MIC is set up to maximize profits with their weapons rather than win wars, the food and drug industry is set up to maximize profits rather than to keep people healthy.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
You would think that the food and pharma industries are there to provide clean food to people and heal people, respectively...

Just like our MIC is set up to maximize profits with their weapons rather than win wars, the food and drug industry is set up to maximize profits rather than to keep people healthy.
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They do provide it. People demand bad food. At no point in my life were people not warning us against a bad, overly processed diet. It's what people want. It's just the market. There are healthy food choices out there. The line at Chick fil a is longer than the line at the Chop Shop (not sure if you have that, but it's healthy food and you get the point).

There is no use in looking for a vast conspiracy when both parties are doing the most obvious profit-seeking behavior....meeting market demand.

I'm not saying there aren't problems with big pharma. Monsanto is a whore because they're gangsters about IP. There are legitimate, founded, and documented gripes to focus on but we're distracted by unfounded fears and conspiratorial lunacy that diminish the cases we should actually be making against these parties. It's pawn behavior, TBH
 
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n_huffhines said:
No side effect at all? Everything has side effects. Even the most natural banana that God made. How about naming a GMO that I'm eating that's gonna harm me?
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I'm guessing that Frankenwheat isn't very nutritious, but at least it tastes like cardboard
 
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n_huffhines said:
They do provide it. People demand bad food. At no point in my life were people not warning us against a bad, overly processed diet. It's what people want. It's just the market. There are healthy food choices out there. The line at Chick fil a is longer than the line at the Chop Shop (not sure if you have that, but it's healthy food and you get the point).

There is no use in looking for a vast conspiracy when both parties are doing the most obvious profit-seeking behavior....meeting market demand.

I'm not saying there aren't problems with big pharma. Monsanto is a whore because they're gangsters about IP. There are legitimate, founded, and documented gripes to focus on but we're distracted by unfounded fears and conspiratorial lunacy that diminish the cases we should actually be making against these parties. It's pawn behavior, TBH
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I'm not removing personal accountability, btw. I'm simply saying that the food and drug industries work together to maximize profits. Also, the govt regulators assist in these efforts with their recommendations.
 
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Here is the US bullying a sovereign country again. Mexico has it right. Why should they feed their people GMO corn?

The US-Mexico Dispute Over GM Corn Safety Could Transform American Agriculture

The trade dispute hinges on a key question: whether genetically modified (GM) corn poses a threat to human health.

U.S. trade representatives argue it does not and wants to force GM corn into Mexico. Given that GM seed is used in 90 percent of U.S. crops, the dispute could have far-reaching effects should Mexico win. Beyond the U.S. agricultural sector, it could damage the German and Chinese companies that make and sell those seeds.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Here is the US bullying a sovereign country again. Mexico has it right. Why should they feed their people GMO corn?

The US-Mexico Dispute Over GM Corn Safety Could Transform American Agriculture

The trade dispute hinges on a key question: whether genetically modified (GM) corn poses a threat to human health.

U.S. trade representatives argue it does not and wants to force GM corn into Mexico. Given that GM seed is used in 90 percent of U.S. crops, the dispute could have far-reaching effects should Mexico win. Beyond the U.S. agricultural sector, it could damage the German and Chinese companies that make and sell those seeds.
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Idiots, good luck finding non GM corn. It doesn’t exist anymore.
 
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Did you see how the state of Pennsylvania went after that Amish farmer for selling food. I believe the judge sided with the farmer
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Here is the US bullying a sovereign country again. Mexico has it right. Why should they feed their people GMO corn?

The US-Mexico Dispute Over GM Corn Safety Could Transform American Agriculture

The trade dispute hinges on a key question: whether genetically modified (GM) corn poses a threat to human health.

U.S. trade representatives argue it does not and wants to force GM corn into Mexico. Given that GM seed is used in 90 percent of U.S. crops, the dispute could have far-reaching effects should Mexico win. Beyond the U.S. agricultural sector, it could damage the German and Chinese companies that make and sell those seeds.
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Ironic as the Mexicans invented GMO corn.
 
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