War in Ukraine

[dalton_vol]

I thought it was to oust the Nazi's? Then it was to liberate the Ukrainians from the tyrannical leadership they seem to love. Then it was to prevent the expansion of NATO.

Now it's to get them to the negotiating table?

Your excuses seem to have more endings than a choose your own adventure book.

I never understood why Russia would fear Ukraine nazis. I doubt the Ukrainian nazis were going to damage Russia. Russia wants ukraine back in their control, Nothing more

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

I never understood why Russia would fear Ukraine nazis. I doubt the Ukrainian nazis were going to damage Russia. Russia wants ukraine back in their control, Nothing more

The OSS/CIA have been using Ukrainian nationalists since the mid-1940s. First to be an insurgency group in the Soviet Union and then as a destabilizing force inside of Ukraine on the Russian Federation's border. The Moscow terror attack is just one example of why the Russians consider a hostile entity like those Nazis to be dangerous... as would the United States if you had Puerto Rican or Mexican nationalist terror outfits.

 

[volgr]

The hypocrisy of some in this thread to what they post in the Israeli/Palestinian thread is laughable.

Quite a big difference between those conflicts.

 

[Orangeslice13]

The hypocrisy of some in this thread to what they post in the Israeli/Palestinian thread is laughable.

nobody ever believes that it’s them. Clearly you are talking about someone else.

You could probably include me in that

 

[Orangeslice13]

Quite a big difference between those conflicts.

The aggressor is getting destroyed in one and stalemated in the other?

 

[LSU-SIU]

The aggressor is getting destroyed in one and stalemated in the other?

Stalemate is something even the best marketing firm couldn't sell at this point. imo Its not really about land capture, heck, even Israel isn't really capturing land.

No ammo + no men eventually + fabs working west
=
Earth's biggest parking lot (Ukraine)

So, the Ukraine needs a very steady stream of men to learn to sit there and take a fab to the head to prolong it, so as long as they get a steady stream of dummies in there it will take time.

Its all about reserves, capacity and production. $60 billion isn't going solve it and $600 billion isn't going to solve it or even $6 trillion. I do believe it could go on for some time, stalemate, no, moving fast, nope. Grind, yup. Its going to take a long time to flatten that place down to the dirt. Israel and Russia have figured it out... you just flatten everything. You just keep running the cycle over and over, move West, cycle over and over until it looks like you can park your car there, move west, cycle over and over. Its not really all that difficult at this stage.

Both Israel and Russia's goals are really to destroy men and return all those human structures back to the Earth. Russia at this point is simply running the greatest demolishing project the world has ever seen. Its not complex.

 

[NorthDallas40]

We are all about to enjoy some wonderfully hilarious hot takes for a few days before a ball is picked up in a huff and taken home again

 

[apevol]

oh boy, the atomic wonder is back

 

[volfanhill]

Stalemate is something even the best marketing firm couldn't sell at this point. imo Its not really about land capture, heck, even Israel isn't really capturing land.

No ammo + no men eventually + fabs working west
=
Earth's biggest parking lot (Ukraine)

So, the Ukraine needs a very steady stream of men to learn to sit there and take a fab to the head to prolong it, so as long as they get a steady stream of dummies in there it will take time.

Its all about reserves, capacity and production. $60 billion isn't going solve it and $600 billion isn't going to solve it or even $6 trillion. I do believe it could go on for some time, stalemate, no, moving fast, nope. Grind, yup. Its going to take a long time to flatten that place down to the dirt. Israel and Russia have figured it out... you just flatten everything. You just keep running the cycle over and over, move West, cycle over and over until it looks like you can park your car there, move west, cycle over and over. Its not really all that difficult at this stage.

Both Israel and Russia's goals are really to destroy men and return all those human structures back to the Earth. Russia at this point is simply running the greatest demolishing project the world has ever seen. Its not complex.

How is Will Wades lawsuit against LSU going? lol. Please share more of your hot takes

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Looks like the Russians are making advances in Chasiv Yar...

 

[NorthDallas40]

Looks like the Russians are making advances in Chasiv Yar...

Just for S&G’s I pulled up the time lapse map since Jan 1 2024. All it shows is minor movements back and forth on a largely static line. Yes it’s a stalemate much to the chagrin of you and the retread kid’s expectations.

 

[LSU-SIU]

How is Will Wades lawsuit against LSU going? lol. Please share more of your hot takes

I never said he would, I said he could, damages would have been limited as he had very little remaining on the contract minus his current salary. (Pearl never got to that as his remaining contract could have been a disaster which I said at the time, both are still coaching... I said Will probably wouldn't as he would get a good salary elsewhere) Hot takes, you fail to read or can't comprehend. (see the countless suits against the NCAA at the present moment including Tennessee's and which will get worse and than come back and read what I wrote 10+ years ago on the forum)

Hot take you don't know dick even when I spell dick out for you.

As far as Russia, they most likely will continue to flatten that place, you getting your panties in a twist and getting mad at me is not going to change that. Its not really difficult, its obvious observation.

I mean if you are mad at me at least state what you are mad at me about. I have very little to nothing to do with the Ukraine being turned into a parking lot.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Well done @volfanhill

 

[volfanhill]

I never said he would, I said he could, damages would have been limited as he had very little remaining on the contract minus his current salary. (Pearl never got to that as his remaining contract could have been a disaster which I said at the time, both are still coaching... I said Will probably wouldn't as he would get a good salary elsewhere) Hot takes, you fail to read or can't comprehend. (see the countless suits against the NCAA at the present moment including Tennessee's and which will get worse and than come back and read what I wrotthe forum)

Hot take you don't know dick even when I spell dick out for you.

As far as Russia, they most likely will continue to flatten that place, you getting your panties in a twist and getting mad at me is not going to change that. Its not really difficult, its obvious observation.

I mean if you are mad at me at least state what you are mad at me about. I have very little to nothing to do with the Ukraine being turned into a parking lot.

only one person is mad man. And it's the one who made an ass out of himself in a thread about Will Wade. Did LSU fire for him cause? Cause I can't remember your hot take on that issue. Also, when you typed that diatribe out, did you think it made you come off as smart? Or special? Intimidating? What were you going for? You achieved bleep hole pretty successfully. So if that was the goal, congrats my friend.



Try not to rage post.

 

[LSU-SIU]

only one person is mad man. And it's the one who made an ass out of himself in a thread about Will Wade. Did LSU fire for him cause? Cause I can't remember your hot take on that issue.


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Yes. You pointed out that I said he would sue them. I actually said he could sue LSU and the NCAA but probably not likely, Pearl on the other hand had a massive contract . If I remember right, I didn't think LSU would fire him but I was not shocked that he is still coaching. The reason why Pearl wasn't fired was his contract, anti-trust beside having criminal penalties has treble damage penalties. Pearl had a massive contract, nobody was going to fire him for any of that crap as the lawsuit would be in bound. The NCAA went after low hanging fruit, people that were already indicted. The irony of Tennessee suing is they are basically exposing the criminal enterprise they are themselves a part which is what I said on this forum 10-15 years ago.

The schools and the NCAA are and have been a big criminal operation, its just society has refused to go after them in mass however the civil suit are just getting started. The tobacco cases took decades before they really started doing damage.

As far as the Ukraine, there was never a winning real move on the battlefield.... other than someone giving them a nuke and I'm not sure that would produce a win for anyone. Nobody cares about the Ukraine which is why its been selected to be turned into a parking lot. Most of this is quite boring because we already know how this basically turns out, see the last 40-60 years of military engagements the US is involved in. The only thing worse than being the enemy of the U.S. is being their friend.

The song and pony show can go on for some time though. You have a good nite and keep fighting the good fight..... or whatever it is you do.

 

[LSU-SIU]

Looks like the Russians are making advances in Chasiv Yar...

FABs to the southern and northern flanks of the village. Send in assault teams in those flanks (which is going to be heavy losses for Russia in those moves). Establish fire control of the outbound roads to the west. Allow the UA to resupply the center of the village with streams of meat. Artillery them in the center of the cauldron at a steady pace, eventually when they get bored.... Russia just starts FABing the middle of cauldron to grind the meat away in the stew. When the village is flattened they move everyone west. (Rinse and repeat at the next village) The Ukraine really can't retake the village/town/city because it simply doesn't exist anymore.

The largest demolishing site in the history of man.

UA is taking the men off the streets in vans, put them on the front lines within a day or two because the only purpose is for them is to go to the ditch to get a FAB in the forehead.... no training really required at this point.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

UA is taking the men off the streets in vans, put them on the front lines within a day or two because the only purpose is for them is to go to the ditch to get a FAB in the forehead.... no training really required at this point.

You would think that if the available men of Ukraine felt it was necessary to defend the territorial integrity and sovereignty of Ukraine, they would be lining up at recruitment centers from Lviv to Luhansk...

Ukraine has been losing ~1k/day since the beginning of the year.

Russia has been GAINING ~1k/day since the beginning of the year.

This is not sustainable.

 

[LSU-SIU]

You would think that if the available men of Ukraine felt it was necessary to defend the territorial integrity and sovereignty of Ukraine, they would be lining up at recruitment centers from Lviv to Luhansk...

Ukraine has been losing ~1k/day since the beginning of the year.

Russia has been GAINING ~1k/day since the beginning of the year.

This is not sustainable.

I agree but from a different take.

I'm not sure more men even helps, it could help delay. More ammo might help, again it could help to delay. I think I said a year or two ago this could take a decade or two, and but its hard to envision a winning move on the chest board for Ukraine. The pieces just aren't there on the battlefield. It will take a nuke or the U.S. blowing up a nuclear power plants there or something like that to really change the outcome, imo.

No amount of money helps, unless they can print men and ammo faster than they are leaving the battlefield not sure how the outcome changes significantly. There is only so many people that can be taken from the back and sent to the front lines and if those front lines are depleted... that's that.

The U.S. could give the Ukraine 1000 F-16s, 100 F-35s, 3000 Abrahams, 10000 Bradleys, a million drones, etc but what are they going to do with all that? There is no practical way for them to man those, support it and deploy those systems. Every man they take off the back line and put on the front line can no longer support the back line as well.

 

[volinbham]

 

[Orangeslice13]

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Would be funny if it was so damn sad.

 

[volbound1700]

I never said he would, I said he could, damages would have been limited as he had very little remaining on the contract minus his current salary. (Pearl never got to that as his remaining contract could have been a disaster which I said at the time, both are still coaching... I said Will probably wouldn't as he would get a good salary elsewhere) Hot takes, you fail to read or can't comprehend. (see the countless suits against the NCAA at the present moment including Tennessee's and which will get worse and than come back and read what I wrote 10+ years ago on the forum)

Hot take you don't know dick even when I spell dick out for you.

As far as Russia, they most likely will continue to flatten that place, you getting your panties in a twist and getting mad at me is not going to change that. Its not really difficult, its obvious observation.

I mean if you are mad at me at least state what you are mad at me about. I have very little to nothing to do with the Ukraine being turned into a parking lot.

They can't kill 33 million people you moron. It is physically impossible (minus nukes) for Russia to exterminate all of Ukraine. Russia thought Ukraine would fold easy and they didn't. War has turned into a stale mate because Russian logistics suck and they could not secure Kiev. They are trying other fronts but it has mostly stalemated. I think Russia is slowly pushing but nothing spectacular. It is hilarious because Russia has 10-20x the forces of Ukraine.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Ukrainian Men Paying Disabled Women To Marry Them To Avoid Frontlines: Report

Ukrainian men are reportedly paying disabled women in the country to marry them, as a way of avoiding being drafted to fight on the frontlines of the war with Russia.

An investigation by Ukrainian outlet NGL Media found that fighting age men are exploiting a loophole in the country’s martial law that allows them to skip military service.

If they have a disabled dependent, they are able to apply for a deferral from military duty as well as being allowed to cross the border, at which point many are fleeing for good.

The investigation found scores of Facebook and Telegram groups in which men are posting marriage proposals, and disabled women are offering marriage to the highest bidders.

 

[LSU-SIU]

Duplicate post.

 

[LSU-SIU]

They can't kill 33 million people you moron. It is physically impossible (minus nukes) for Russia to exterminate all of Ukraine. Russia thought Ukraine would fold easy and they didn't. War has turned into a stale mate because Russian logistics suck and they could not secure Kiev. They are trying other fronts but it has mostly stalemated. I think Russia is slowly pushing but nothing spectacular. It is hilarious because Russia has 10-20x the forces of Ukraine.

The irony, you call me a moron and make up a whole statement that I never said.
There is no reason to kill 33 million people, only the ones in front of the FABs/artillery, bring everything to the ground. This is the biggest demolition in the existence of man in one location.

The objective is to just flatten everything as they move west, if people die.... they die. It would seem prudent to move West, if they wish to live.

I think Russia is slowly pushing but nothing spectacular.

Exactly what I said, I actually said it was boring. (see other posts) They are speeding up the pace but its same play over and over at this point. Maybe they will switch it up and start using the TUs for delivery of the FABs in larger quantity.... still the same play. Real wars are won by leveling **** down to the ground... lost art until now.

War has turned into a stale mate because Russian logistics suck and they could not secure Kiev.

Well, unless they were successful there is no way of securing a logistics line that far into enemy territory, which is why they are now onto flattening the county mode. I don't think you have to worry about them trying that again as they will just flatten everything. Its a ton easier to just flatten everything, not much different between what Israel is doing except Russia is doing it at a massive scale. It takes time to deconstruct a country of that size, the Ukraine is the size of Texas in area and the amount of energy to flatten is huge - it will take time, resources and energy.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]