2024 Presidential Race

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

Those clips are cherrypicked by liberals. It's desperate, pathetic and no one's buying the sophomoric "well you are too" defense. Yesterday Trump's entire speech was off the cuff. Biden could not have done that. His handlers wouldn't allow that, for good reason. As much as Trump speaks, there will be missteps but that's not what we're talking about with Biden

^^^^^^^ TRUTH

 

[luthervol]

Not backing off 1 bit. The reason the DNC hasn't pushed someone to run against Biden is they don't want to subject the eventual candidate to a year long campaign and scrutiny. They also don't want you choosing the candidate if one serious candidate jumps in that might have led to more, they know you will end up voting for whoever they chose as Biden's replacement. Smart strategy in my opinion.

They can rest assured that tens of millions will vote against Trump.
But not a single one of them needs to be told to do that......and that's on the idiocy of the repubs.

 

[DC_Vol]

Because they feel that is the best current avenue for beating Trump.

So they support Biden.

 

[hog88]

So they support Biden.

He's doing major contortions trying to avoid admitting the truth.

 

[hog88]

They can rest assured that tens of millions will vote against Trump.
But not a single one of them needs to be told to do that......and that's on the idiocy of the repubs.

Let's say I'm wrong and the DNC doesn't replace Biden then he goes on to lose the election, who's fault will it be?

 

[McDad]

Most have.
You do not view Trump's support from republicans and Biden's support from democrats as comparable do you?

Unless a new poll dropped, you continue to be imprecise in your "most" (majority) claim. Last poll I saw had it slightly less than 50%.

 

[kiddiedoc]

But that means there is obviously some other reason for your narrowmindedness and difficulties with critical thought. I'll keep searching.

That's rich coming from you. Remind me of my batting average through the CV19 nonsense. Or, did mRNA "vaccines" safely eliminate a respiratory virus and it was necessary to close schools and parks? Still wearing a face diaper? 24 day quarantine for exposure? Following the grocery aisle arrows?

The pandemic exposed the narrow-minded sheep, and we are all quite aware which pasture you reside in.

 

[VOLS INC.]

So they support Biden.

@DC_Vol

Clearly you are just too simple and narrow minded. Ya see, this is a presidential election. Nominating, supporting, and voting for the candidate, from those that have declared they are running, is not the way anymore. No no.

Your options:
Vote for a candidate in the party you loathe. The candidate you despise less than the other candidates from that party. Like voting for Nikki Haley in the primary even though you are a proud democrat.

Or

Continually ramble on the VNPF and throw your support behind a candidate that’s not running for President. Like Liz Chaney.

Or

Continually advocating that your party would just cast the current POTUS aside and install a new Candidate to lead your party. Even a candidate that not one person voted for during the primary.

Voting for the candidate in the primary that you like best??? That’s insane!

 

[lawgator1]

Do you ever tire of sounding like a complete dumbass?

It's hyperbole, but he's got a point. Look at the numbers state-by-state. There is a definite Bubba factor at work with Trump and MAGA. Not 100%, but a sizeable portion of the motivated base for Trump, meet at least some part of the caricature.

 

[luthervol]

So they support Biden.

Only as a means of beating Trump.
There is one overriding objective. Every other objective is so far below it practically becomes moot.
That one objective is to beat Trump. Period.

Most dems would prefer it be someone other than Biden (but they do not agree on who that someone should be), but all dems do agree that Biden would be better than Trump.

The safest bet in achieving your only true objective is to have Biden win the primary.

It's like TN fans arguing over who should start at QB against bama. Bottom line, none of them really care as long as we beat bama. If they know that one QB guarantees that win, they will go with it, even if it is not who they see as the best QB moving forward.

 

[luthervol]

Let's say I'm wrong and the DNC doesn't replace Biden then he goes on to lose the election, who's fault will it be?

Shared blame. Dems for nominating him, and repubs who were dumb enough to vote Trump.

 

[luthervol]

Unless a new poll dropped, you continue to be imprecise in your "most" (majority) claim. Last poll I saw had it slightly less than 50%.

? What does that have to do with my question to Hog?

 

[kiddiedoc]

Only as a means of beating Trump.
There is one overriding objective. Every other objective is so far below it practically becomes moot.
That one objective is to beat Trump. Period.

Most dems would prefer it be someone other than Biden (but they do not agree on who that someone should be), but all dems do agree that Biden would be better than Trump.

The safest bet in achieving your only true objective is to have Biden win the primary.

It's like TN fans arguing over who should start at QB against bama. Bottom line, none of them really care as long as we beat bama. If they know that one QB guarantees that win, they will go with it, even if it is not who they see as the best QB moving forward.

Great analogy. Having Biden as your only option reminds me of starting Peterman at UF.

 

[luthervol]

That's rich coming from you. Remind me of my batting average through the CV19 nonsense. Or, did mRNA "vaccines" safely eliminate a respiratory virus and it was necessary to close schools and parks? Still wearing a face diaper? 24 day quarantine for exposure? Following the grocery aisle arrows?

The pandemic exposed the narrow-minded sheep, and we are all quite aware which pasture you reside in.

Please. You'll obviously ride that to your death.

We were all pleased the pandemic didn't turn out to be as catastrophic as appeared possible.

 

[luthervol]

Great analogy. Having Biden as your only option reminds me of starting Peterman at UF.

And Trump is like starting an offensive lineman in the wildcat formation.

 

[VOLS INC.]

It's hyperbole, but he's got a point. Look at the numbers state-by-state. There is a definite Bubba factor at work with Trump and MAGA. Not 100%, but a sizeable portion of the motivated base for Trump, meet at least some part of the caricature.

Stay classy LG. You keep showing your true colors on this forum everyday.

 

[Jackcrevol]

Only as a means of beating Trump.
There is one overriding objective. Every other objective is so far below it practically becomes moot.
That one objective is to beat Trump. Period.

Most dems would prefer it be someone other than Biden (but they do not agree on who that someone should be), but all dems do agree that Biden would be better than Trump.

The safest bet in achieving your only true objective is to have Biden win the primary.

It's like TN fans arguing over who should start at QB against bama. Bottom line, none of them really care as long as we beat bama. If they know that one QB guarantees that win, they will go with it, even if it is not who they see as the best QB moving forward.

No necessarily a Dem. Yes, most anyone would be better than Biden. That said, in how many Countries in the World would a man who tried to overthrow said Country, be allowed to run for office - or even walk freely?

I would rather elect a 4 year old than Trump. And yes there is a corollary.

Id just assume take an ass whipping than vote for that mother ****er, Trump.

 

[luthervol]

Stay classy LG. You keep showing your true colors on this forum everyday.

His highest % was in bama!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hard to deny a bubba factor.

 

[lawgator1]

Stay classy LG. You keep showing your true colors on this forum everyday.

I said it was about the caricature, come on!

Look at Vermont, which is going to be predominantly well-educated, more sophisticated GOP voters.
Haley 49.9 %
Trump 45.9%

Look at Virginia, which will also trend towards better educated:

Trump 63.1 %
Haley 34.8 %






Now, look at Alabama

Trump 83.2 %
Haley 13 %

Or Arkansas

Trump 76.9 %
Haley 18.4 %




It is definitely the case that the lower the level of education and sophistication within the GOP, the more support you see for Trump. Its just a fact.

 

[Jackcrevol]

His highest % was in bama!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hard to deny a bubba factor.

I think there is and always has been a factor for white Americans who feel disillusioned. Trump, like many Nationalists before him feast in a predacious manner, on the fears of those who have something to lose. Those white's with money gravitate toward his rhetoric. Those uneducated white's gravitate toward his mental illness, as an enablement of their own addiction or illness. Racists gravitate because it is what it is.

It sucks that this is who we hve to choose from. It really is tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dumb****.

 

[volfanhill]

I said it was about the caricature, come on!

Look at Vermont, which is going to be predominantly well-educated, more sophisticated GOP voters.
Haley 49.9 %
Trump 45.9%

Look at Virginia, which will also trend towards better educated:

Trump 63.1 %
Haley 34.8 %






Now, look at Alabama

Trump 83.2 %
Haley 13 %

Or Arkansas

Trump 76.9 %
Haley 18.4 %




It is definitely the case that the lower the level of education and sophistication within the GOP, the more support you see for Trump. Its just a fact.

What percentage of college graduates, who now want their debt forgiven, support Biden? That group is a special level of selfish dumbasses.

 

[VOLS INC.]

His highest % was in bama!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hard to deny a bubba factor.

“Bubbas” know what a woman is.
“Bubbas” don’t encourage their young sons to take puberty blockers and wear dresses.
“Bubbas” don’t willingly give up their right bc guns are scary.

I could go on and on. But I’ll bet most would agree.

Give me a nation full of Bubbas over a nation full of Luther’s and LGs! All day. Everyday.

 

[luthervol]

“Bubbas” know what a woman is.
“Bubbas” don’t encourage their young sons to take puberty blockers and wear dresses.
“Bubbas” don’t willingly give up their right bc guns are scary.

I could go on and on. But I’ll bet most would agree.

Give me a nation full of Bubbas over a nation full of Luther’s and LGs! All day. Everyday.

Guns, god, and gays.......still alive and kickin'

 

[VOLS INC.]

I said it was about the caricature, come on!

Look at Vermont, which is going to be predominantly well-educated, more sophisticated GOP voters.
Haley 49.9 %
Trump 45.9%

Look at Virginia, which will also trend towards better educated:

Trump 63.1 %
Haley 34.8 %






Now, look at Alabama

Trump 83.2 %
Haley 13 %

Or Arkansas

Trump 76.9 %
Haley 18.4 %




It is definitely the case that the lower the level of education and sophistication within the GOP, the more support you see for Trump. It’s just a fact.

Edit. NM. You were talking about the “educated” voters within the GOP.

 

[utvolpj]

I said it was about the caricature, come on!

Look at Vermont, which is going to be predominantly well-educated, more sophisticated GOP voters.
Haley 49.9 %
Trump 45.9%

Look at Virginia, which will also trend towards better educated:

Trump 63.1 %
Haley 34.8 %






Now, look at Alabama

Trump 83.2 %
Haley 13 %

Or Arkansas

Trump 76.9 %
Haley 18.4 %




It is definitely the case that the lower the level of education and sophistication within the GOP, the more support you see for Trump. Its just a fact.

The VT vote totals show it was unlikely a straight up GOP vote. Quite a few "crossovers"