2024 Presidential Race

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#12,378
McDad said:
So, you voting in the primary (if allowed) is you living up to this conviction

The fact that I find that revolting only means that I try my best to change and/or negate those decisions to the best of my ability.

I say, kudos to you. You are doing all you can, unless you are going to donate large sums and campaign for Trump's opponents. Side note, I think I've only read one person who participates in the PF who has admitted to working for a campaign.
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I can't remember his name...the poster who campaigned for Pete. Nice guy. Good contributer. Still posts in the FF

Anybody remember?
 
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McDad said:
If there is a Romney type running and they are failing to connect with the voters in the primary, then fretting over it on your end isn't going to do anything at all except give you worry lines.
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I thought this whole conversation pretty much revolved around the thought process (or lack thereof) of the American voter.
 
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volinbham said:
you think they voted for Trump?
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I would think almost none did.

I'll amend that statement to agree with Hog. There may be some Ds who actually want Trump to run.
After all, it does pretty much guarantee a Dem. victory.
 
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volinbham said:
Trump got almost as many votes as the entire Dem list of candidates (756,851 v 762,697) and 138,425 more than Biden.

Oof.
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I don't think we can read too much into that. Luther might be right for the first time and there are a whole bunch of Dems voting in the R primary wanting Trump to be the nominee.
 
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luthervol said:
I thought this whole conversation pretty much revolved around the thought process (or lack thereof) of the American voter.
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I thought we got on this kick by talking about how all the candidates use bombastic proclamations. Then degrees of despicableness was brought in. Then we morphed about lamenting it's Trump again and who it should be in his stead.

Point is, the nominee no matter how despicable is the choice of the primary voters and no suggestions will change that.
 
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volinbham said:
then the point I made stands - Trump gained significantly more support in the primaries than Biden and D's voting in the R primary didn't boost Trump's numbers
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Not at all...........D's voting in the R primary reduced Biden's numbers - thought it was obvious.
 
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McDad said:
I thought we got on this kick by talking about how all the candidates use bombastic proclamations. Then degrees of despicableness was brought in. Then we morphed about lamenting it's Trump again and who it should be in his stead.

Point is, the nominee no matter how despicable is the choice of the primary voters and no suggestions will change that.
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I'm to the point where I think we should do away with the primary system, go back to the way nominees were chosen at the conventions. Each party holds state caucuses to elect delegates to the conventions and they select the candidates.
 
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volinbham said:
not voting at all is the problem for Biden

Trump got more primary votes than Biden did. Does primary turnout predict election turnout? Not per se but the GOP turned out in larger numbers and even with Trump getting 2/3rds his total exceeded Biden's.

No way to spin the Michigan results as anything but bad for Biden.
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Yeah, but that is not unusual at all when you have an incumbent President, basically running unopposed .... with the presumptive nominee from the other party, still facing a challenger (albeit, a weak one).

There was a well-organized protest vote on the Democratic Party side (uncommitted), but it shouldn't be hard to rally their faction of support against a candidate who wants Muslims banned from entering the country.
 
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hog88 said:
I don't think we can read too much into that. Luther might be right for the first time and there are a whole bunch of Dems voting in the R primary wanting Trump to be the nominee.
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well that doesn't change Trump's total. if it were a couple thousand difference I'd agree but 138K more for Trump than Biden (and Biden only got 616K)

we have to assume that half the Haley votes were actually Biden supporters for there to be parity.

now primaries are not necessarily predictive of the general but this was a bad result for Biden on all fronts
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Yeah, but that is not unusual at all when you have an incumbent President, basically running unopposed .... with the presumptive nominee from the other party, still facing a challenger (albeit, a weak one).

There was a well-organized protest vote on the Democratic Party side (uncommitted), but it shouldn't be hard to rally their faction of support against a candidate who wants Muslims banned from entering the country.
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even if all the protest votes went to Biden he still trailed Trump.

no way to spin this as a positive outcome for Biden
 
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volinbham said:
even if all the protest votes went to Biden he still trailed Trump.

no way to spin this as a positive outcome for Biden
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Biden is an incumbent President who is running unopposed. You are making way too much out of that. There was really no need to vote for Biden in the primary. I'm not wasting my time on it.
 
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