War in Ukraine

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Rasputin_Vol said:
No no no... this was always going to be the next logical step. All of this hand-wringing about not sending long range missiles back in 2022 and we went from that to where we are today. Each step of escalation we tried, Russia matched and exceeded.

One more time... its boots on the ground for today. But I guarantee you that Russia is not going to be wasting time fighting in trenches and bunkers with NATO. As soon as NATO makes the decision to go in to Ukraine (expecting Russia to fight them in the same manner as they are fighting fellow Slavs), the hypersonics will fly. They may or may not have nuclear warheads (the kinetic energy alone of these hypersonics is enough to do damage).
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I dont know what the West thinks their endgame is but these arent smart or ethical people making these decisions.
 
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Matt2496 said:
I used to be in favor of sending weapons but not money. My position has changed over the past several months. I think they should be buying our weapons and that we shouldn't just be handing them out.
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I don't see what difference it makes if we hand them over for free or if they pay for them.

We are still a party in the war. That is what should be most concerning.

We are already IN IT...
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
No no no... this was always going to be the next logical step. All of this hand-wringing about not sending long range missiles back in 2022 and we went from that to where we are today. Each step of escalation we tried, Russia matched and exceeded.

One more time... its boots on the ground for today. But I guarantee you that Russia is not going to be wasting time fighting in trenches and bunkers with NATO. As soon as NATO makes the decision to go in to Ukraine (expecting Russia to fight them in the same manner as they are fighting fellow Slavs), the hypersonics will fly. They may or may not have nuclear warheads (the kinetic energy alone of these hypersonics is enough to do damage).
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Matched what you FOS stooge?! Your orc moron homies are still racking up huge losses of surface combatant ships that they cannot replace in their current economic environment against a country without a freaking Navy!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! 😂🤡
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
I don't see what difference it makes if we hand them over for free or if they pay for them.

We are still a party in the war. That is what should be most concerning.

We are already IN IT...
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Why do you never place blame on the party that actually initiated the war?

And I already know your response: "Blah Blah Blah.... it's nato's fault ... blah blah blah...."
 
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Matt2496 said:
Why do you never place blame on the party that actually initiated the war?

And I already know your response: "Blah Blah Blah.... it's nato's fault ... blah blah blah...."
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The West initiated and wanted this war. Over the last 10 years, Russia has made multiple attempts to keep this from where we are today.
 
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Matt2496 said:
Why do you never place blame on the party that actually initiated the war?

And I already know your response: "Blah Blah Blah.... it's nato's fault ... blah blah blah...."
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Hey if the EU is serious about getting directly involved then good on them. This is a European issue and if they take tactical control of the situation I’d say it absolves us of having any leadership role. They have their own equipment and it’s supposed to be for the defense of Europe!
 
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volgr said:
The West initiated and wanted this war. Over the last 10 years, Russia has made multiple attempts to keep this from where we are today.
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LMAO if by invading and occupying land they have no right to qualified as “made multiple attempts” you might have a point. But it doesn’t Larry! 🤡
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
Hey if the EU is serious about getting directly involved then good on them. This is a European issue and if they take tactical control of the situation I’d say it absolves us of having any leadership role. They have their own equipment and equipment and it’s supposed to be for the defense of Europe!
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The EU is about as scary as Vandy is in football. They wouldnt last long vs Russia and it would be our boys jumping in to save them....again. Although this time, I dont know if we would be up to the challenge.
 
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volgr said:
The EU is about as scary as Vandy is in football. They wouldnt last long vs Russia and it would be our boys jumping in to save them....again. Although this time, I dont know if we would be up to the challenge.
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Who you trying to convince Larry? I’ll bet you were clutching your toy Moskva tightly as you said that out loud to yourself. And your boys are already in it they started it in Feb 2021
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
Who you trying to convince Larry? I’ll bet you were clutching your toy Moskva tightly as you said that out loud to yourself. And your boys are already in it they started it in Feb 2021
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Those are western trained troops using western weapons in Ukraine and they are taking HUGE losses. Your confident stupidity is amusing.
 
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volgr said:
Those are western trained troops using western weapons in Ukraine and they are taking HUGE losses. Your confident stupidity is amusing.
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Still see you talking to yourself Larry. The second most powerful army in the world and the most powerful army in Europe has had its navy decimated by a country with no navy 🤡
 
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volgr said:
The West initiated and wanted this war. Over the last 10 years, Russia has made multiple attempts to keep this from where we are today.
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Those western death cults with evil gay nazis that run western gay nazi bio labs.... It's all their fault for crying out loud. Russia is the real victim here. Waaahhhhhhhhhhhh
 
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we talked about this 2 years ago..if bombs are dropping on Paris or London, we gonna be involved if they act unilaterally.

You cant say Western Europe is vital to American NS interests and at same time say “well they made their bed”.
 
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volgr said:
The EU is about as scary as Vandy is in football. They wouldnt last long vs Russia and it would be our boys jumping in to save them....again. Although this time, I dont know if we would be up to the challenge.
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Another laughable post. The Russian military is a paper tiger for obvious reasons, including the fact they have struggled over the past 2 years to gain ground against a much inferior military on paper. They're gaining ground now because of attrition of Ukrainian forces due to Russia's massive amounts of men they've thrown to the front lines to be used as cannon fodder. They do not compare to the German war machine of the 30s/40s. Europe can handle Russia on their own if need be.
 
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Orangeburst said:
we talked about this 2 years ago..if bombs are dropping on Paris or London, we gonna be involved if they act unilaterally.

You cant say Western Europe is vital to American NS interests and at same time say “well they made their bed”.
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We’ve all said all along this is a European issue and they should handle it. It’s entirely possible Europe sees Puddinhead as being completely ineffective and locked up by Congress and they are probably taking Trump at his word that he won’t support the effort if elected (I don’t believe Trump when he says that I think he will flip flop but who knows if Europe is getting proactive). So let them handle it as we said from the start. If any European nation wants to send troops under their flag so be it. Let them have it and handle their own house for once.
 
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Matt2496 said:
Another laughable post. The Russian military is a paper tiger for obvious reasons, including the fact they have struggled over the past 2 years to gain ground against a much inferior military personnel-wise. They're gaining ground now because of attrition of Ukrainian forces due to Russia's massive amounts of men they've thrown to the front lines to be used as cannon fodder. They do not compare to the German war machine of the 30s/40s. Europe can handle Russia on their own if need be.
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It’s clear the Russian military was a paper tiger two years ago. Today it’s a shadow of that early paper tiger now too. Rolling out T-62’s to face western supplied Leopards, Challengers, and Abrams LMAO
 
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