'10 JUCO QB Cameron Newton

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#476
#476
Me personally, I don't believe Stephens could start for anybody in division I football. He might as well finish his career at UT, and maybe try to beg Kiffin for grad asst, but Kiffin wont do it anyway, so NIck, hope u got a good education.
 
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vols5790 said:
Me personally, I don't believe Stephens could start for anybody in division I football. He might as well finish his career at UT, and maybe try to beg Kiffin for grad asst, but Kiffin wont do it anyway, so NIck, hope u got a good education.
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But... if the only other competition on said D I team was Crompton, you must admit, he has a chance. :yes:

Speaking of our QB's, they should absolutely no pressure from fan expectations this year.
 
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vols5790 said:
Me personally, I don't believe Stephens could start for anybody in division I football. He might as well finish his career at UT, and maybe try to beg Kiffin for grad asst, but Kiffin wont do it anyway, so NIck, hope u got a good education.
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I think we are all being overly harsh on both Nick and JC. Both were rated high coming out of HS, and they've been screwed with having to learn 4 different offenses already. If there had been some degree of continuity, both likely would be in much better shape. I thought a lot of Clawson last year...but have come to realize that his overly complex offense was just a disaster in the making...flipping lineman all the time..the 1st yr in?
If these coaches can improve the play of the OL this year, the QB play will be much improved. I'm thinking that Crompton can really come on if he can get some decent protection and start to gain some confidence.
 
#480
#480
do you guys think marve is a better fit than newton? I know marve was young and is very talented but he didnt seem to handle big game pressure to well at Miami
 
#481
#481
i think marve will fit our scheme better..newton was recruited by florida....so as you can tell he has to be pretty mobile..pocket presence isn't that big of a deal with the way they roll them out of the pocket down there
 
#482
#482
Tebow almost NEVER does a designed roll out on a pass play.

He goes wide on the run/pitch option with the tailback and he'll move to escape pressure.
 
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19SEP2009 said:
Who is the competition for Newton here?

I thought I heard MSU mentioned and Mullen was the O-coordiator at UF. Maybe they are going to hook up again?
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I think this is very possible. I believe our chances are better with Marve, even though he would have to walk-on.
 
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19SEP2009 said:
Who is the competition for Newton here?

I thought I heard MSU mentioned and Mullen was the O-coordiator at UF. Maybe they are going to hook up again?
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MSU seems to be the only other school We are competing with for Newton...Please remember however it IS Mississippi St and they won't be competing for any SEC titles anytime in the near future.
 
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VOLnMiami said:
MSU seems to be the only other school We are competing with for Newton...Please remember however it IS Mississippi St and they won't be competing for any SEC titles anytime in the near future.
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He'll use up his eligibilty by 2011. When do you see UT making a serious run at the SEC crown. Especially in light of your OL depth issues.
 
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19SEP2009 said:
He'll use up his eligibilty by 2011. When do you see UT making a serious run at the SEC crown. Especially in light of your OL depth issues.
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Don't bring this logical and rational trash in here.


But seriously, a lot could change in two years at Tennessee. I don't know how much can change at Mississippi State.
 
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TENNaciousUTfan said:
You know, I don't understand what that means...I hear analysts say that, but how in the world do you quantify those remarks?
Either the kid has the goods or they don't. How in the world do you gauge how much potential one has to develop? You don't, IMHO.
With Scroggins, you're talking about the added dynamic that he can hurt an opponent running with the ball when the play starts to break down. If that's what they are referring to, sure...but why not just say it that way instead of using some dubious analyst jargon?
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Scroggins runs a 4.8.
 
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vols5790 said:
Me personally, I don't believe Stephens could start for anybody in division I football. He might as well finish his career at UT, and maybe try to beg Kiffin for grad asst, but Kiffin wont do it anyway, so NIck, hope u got a good education.
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I think that's a ridiculous statement. I'm biased.
 
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19SEP2009 said:
He'll use up his eligibilty by 2011. When do you see UT making a serious run at the SEC crown. Especially in light of your OL depth issues.
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A LOT can change between now and then....A lot...We went 5-6 in 2006 and in 2007 we were in the SEC title game...But hell you already knew that didn't you? :clapping:
 
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19SEP2009 said:
He'll use up his eligibilty by 2011. When do you see UT making a serious run at the SEC crown. Especially in light of your OL depth issues.
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In 2011 the Vols will make a serious run at more than just the SEC crown...
The OL will we loaded with talent and experience (Douglas, Hood, Pope, Thomas, Schofield, Revis, Jose)

Marve will be a Senior QB in his 3rd year in Kiffin's system...

the Vols will have the best backfield in the nation (Bryce, Williams, Oku)...

the WRs will be solid (Nuke, Teague, Green)

the DBs are gonna be top 5 in the nation (Wilks, Waggner, Evans, Raines, Fleming, Janzen, Myles Jr.,Edwards, Gordon, Oliver)...

The LBs are gonna be loaded (Lathers, Donald, Askew, Mitchell-Thornton, King, Hawkins, Nelson, maybe Moody)...

It will be extremely hard for anyone to run up the middle on UT with Broussard, Jeffrey, Walls and Hughes in the middle combined with a couple of JUCOs like James Carmon and John Brown...

DE might be the weakest spot for UT with Bohannon, Fowlkes, and Sykes. Younger players like Jacques Smith will have to step up big...

I only counted the current 2010 commits in this as well, but there are gonna be some more 2010 signees who will have a big impact on the Vols success in 2011...
 
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Lord Vader said:
In 2011 the Vols will make a serious run at more than just the SEC crown...
The OL will we loaded with talent and experience (Douglas, Hood, Pope, Thomas, Schofield, Revis, Jose)

Marve will be a Senior QB in his 3rd year in Kiffin's system...

the Vols will have the best backfield in the nation (Bryce, Williams, Oku)...

the WRs will be solid (Nuke, Teague, Green) the DBs are gonna be top 5 in the nation (Wilks, Waggner, Evans, Raines, Fleming, Janzen, Myles Jr.,Edwards, Gordon, Oliver)...

The LBs are gonna be loaded (Lathers, Donald, Askew, Mitchell-Thornton, King, Hawkins, Nelson, maybe Moody)...

It will be extremely hard for anyone to run up the middle on UT with Broussard, Jeffrey, Walls and Hughes in the middle combined with a couple of JUCOs like James Carmon and John Brown...

DE might be the weakest spot fot UT with Bohannon, Fowlkes, and Sykes. Younger players like Jacques Smith will have to step up big...

I only counted the current 2010 commits in this as well, but there are gonna be some more 2010 signees who will have a big impact on the Vols success in 2011...
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I am not worried at all about the Defensive side of the ball - not with O and Monte.

The only week group there is the WR, but I think after this upcoming recruiting season and next that will be a very solid group.
 
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Lord Vader said:
In 2011 the Vols will make a serious run at more than just the SEC crown...
The OL will we loaded with talent and experience (Douglas, Hood, Pope, Thomas, Schofield, Revis, Jose)

Marve will be a Senior QB in his 3rd year in Kiffin's system...

the Vols will have the best backfield in the nation (Bryce, Williams, Oku)...

the WRs will be solid (Nuke, Teague, Green) the DBs are gonna be top 5 in the nation (Wilks, Waggner, Evans, Raines, Fleming, Janzen, Myles Jr.,Edwards, Gordon, Oliver)...

The LBs are gonna be loaded (Lathers, Donald, Askew, Mitchell-Thornton, King, Hawkins, Nelson, maybe Moody)...

It will be extremely hard for anyone to run up the middle on UT with Broussard, Jeffrey, Walls and Hughes in the middle combined with a couple of JUCOs like James Carmon and John Brown...

DE might be the weakest spot fot UT with Bohannon, Fowlkes, and Sykes. Younger players like Jacques Smith will have to step up big...

I only counted the current 2010 commits in this as well, but there are gonna be some more 2010 signees who will have a big impact on the Vols success in 2011...
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Im moving to Vegas.
 
#498
#498
Looks like a good conversation got sparked up there. I agree that 2011 is a big year for UT and may be a make or break year for Kiffin & crew.

You'll know pretty quick with an early visit to Gainesville whether you're in the hunt. That game will have an enormous amount riding on it.

I think the issues for UT will be on the offensive side of the ball, specifically the OL. This recruiting class is incredibly important for UT. (They all are, but this one even more so.). You'll need a deep OL class.

Also important for 2011 is that it figures to be BB's last year.
 
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19SEP2009 said:
I think the issues for UT will be on the offensive side of the ball, specifically the OL. This recruiting class is incredibly important for UT. (They all are, but this one even more so.). You'll need a deep OL class.
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I agree. Orgeron and Monte are better than anybody you can find on D. The OL should be very good by 2011 imo. There are 5 freshmen and 1 sophmore on the roster this year who will get ALOT of playing time between now and then. I also agree about OL depth, and this 2010 class should provide some nice additions...
 
#500
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I hope Marve doesn't scare him off. Would be great to have him too. And yhen sign Heaps
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