Recruiting Football Talk VII

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Guy deserved it ...has done a wonderful job at JMU...
Last JM HC to make the plunge hasn’t fared well at East Carolina…not horribly with two bowls against three losing seasons…but not remotely close to be on any short lists.
 
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As a recovered former Cowboys fanatic, just want to correct a few things:

Payton was never on Jimmys staff. He was there with Parcells in the early 2000s.

Also, Jimmy didn’t go to Miami because of Marino. Jimmy always wanted back in Florida. He wanted the Jaguars job when they were a new expansion team. He always wanted to be in Florida mostly because he was an avid fisherman. The Miami job was perfect for him.

He wanted to trade Marino and have a more heavy run game. He failed because he could never find a replacement for Marino or a quality back. I think he took John Avery thinking he would be the next Emmitt.

Jimmy had an incredible eye for defensive talent but not offense. He wanted to trade Michael Irvin after he had an acl injury. He wanted to trade Aikman and preferred his weaker arm former Hurrican QB who he took in the supplemental draft. Forget his name. And he wanted a linebacker over Emmitt but Cincinatti picked the kid almost immediately before Dallas as on the clock.
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I never said that it was going to happen. I said that it needs to happen. The key would be that you have to make it known that punishment for violations would be swift and extremely punitive.

"Tampering" is just a word for information flow between potential buyers and sellers; virtually impossible to restrict or regulate. Even if you made direct tampering extremely punitive and had a functioning regulatory body to enforce it, agents would still pass along the numbers; "I'm hearing top players at your position can make a half million next year on the open market". Or teams would broadcast their offers; "We're looking for a good edge rusher. That's a very competitive portal market from an NIL standpoint. We'll have to see who's interested in coming weeks." More players would enter the portal to discover their market value.

I'm not an expert on any of this but, IMO, tampering can only be controlled via pay for play contracts, restrictions on free agency, salary caps and/or a draft. Some combination of those is employed by most professional team leagues.
 

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The SEC is our enemy.

*Investigate all the officials (every sport) and Greg Sankey, prosecute for corruption (if possible), and get the SEC headquarters out of Birmingham, AL. Something has to be done. Enough is enough!
 
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It's a fun debate, I personally have Barry and Payton as my 1 & 2. Feel like they were just so good that you could put them in any era or behind any OL and they'd produce. I feel like Emmitt was great, but the OL he was behind that they built around him (to Dallas' credit) really helped him as well as them having a passing game that was good enough to beat teams by itself. Jim Brown I feel like he just had a physical advantage, that size and speed in the era he played in was a huge part of his success.

I think Curtis Martin gets forgotten far too often in the "best of all time" debates as well.

I always come back to Barry finishing his career with a 100 yard a game average (99.8, but rounding to closest whole number lol), 1k rushing yards in every season he played and a career 5 YPC. That's just ridiculous to do that while also having played 10 years.

Jim Brown, Emmitt Smith, Walter Payton, LT, Curtis Martin, etc. didn't do it.
i don’t consider Barry at the top bc he had over 1,100 negative rushing yards…. He also was taken out in a lot of short yardage/goalline runs…. He was the most exciting back ever though…. My personal favorite to watch was Eric Dickerson although his prime was too short.
 


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Downey isn't the series version but this is my choice.
 
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