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Just posted about this in another thread, but this is the reason we can’t breakthrough. It’s specifically his offensive plan.

He sticks with the circle motion offense, which is highly effective with a dominant big man (think Grant) that commands a double team. Or at least someone down low that teams at least have to pay attention to and are threatened by that would allow the wings and point to find open threes and driving lanes.

With no teams worried about the post it allows them to play aggressively on our wing motion offense. Not to mention that the pick and roll is ineffective with no big man that has the skill set for them to prioritize. This isn’t an Aidoo or Awaka hate post either. I love the both of them. In a different offensive they would have to be accounted for wherever they are on the floor. Even if we played a slightly adjusted offense they would get their opportunities down low along with the pick and roll being more effective. Which would open it up a lot more for our point and wings.

We have the golden egg we’ve needed the last few years in Knecht. He can do it all. But if Barnes sticks to this circle motion offense in which he’s shown no willingness to adjust in years, it might be more of these games down the stretch this season.

Whole season left to play, including a guaranteed decent to high tourney seed. If Barnes can find it in him and adjust a bit on offense we can make a deep run in March. This is the team and talent we need to breakthrough to a Final Four. But if Barnes continues the stubbornness that he’s shown no signs of changing… I don’t see this team getting to a Final Four even though the talent is there.

He can at least stand the **** up and coach the game. Sick of seeing him sitting on the bench.
 
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BigBabyWilliams said:
Just posted about this in another thread, but this is the reason we can’t breakthrough. It’s specifically his offensive plan.

He sticks with the circle motion offense, which is highly effective with a dominant big man (think Grant) that commands a double team. Or at least someone down low that teams at least have to pay attention to and are threatened by that would allow the wings and point to find open threes and driving lanes.

With no teams worried about the post it allows them to play aggressively on our wing motion offense. Not to mention that the pick and roll is ineffective with no big man that has the skill set for them to prioritize. This isn’t an Aidoo or Awaka hate post either. I love the both of them. In a different offensive they would have to be accounted for wherever they are on the floor. Even if we played a slightly adjusted offense they would get their opportunities down low along with the pick and roll being more effective. Which would open it up a lot more for our point and wings.

We have the golden egg we’ve needed the last few years in Knecht. He can do it all. But if Barnes sticks to this circle motion offense in which he’s shown no willingness to adjust in years, it might be more of these games down the stretch this season.

Whole season left to play, including a guaranteed decent to high tourney seed. If Barnes can find it in him and adjust a bit on offense we can make a deep run in March. This is the team and talent we need to breakthrough to a Final Four. But if Barnes continues the stubbornness that he’s shown no signs of changing… I don’t see this team getting to a Final Four even though the talent is there.

He can at least stand the **** up and coach the game. Sick of seeing him sitting on the bench.
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He stood up long enough to get a T last game.
 
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BigBabyWilliams said:
Just posted about this in another thread, but this is the reason we can’t breakthrough. It’s specifically his offensive plan.

He sticks with the circle motion offense, which is highly effective with a dominant big man (think Grant) that commands a double team. Or at least someone down low that teams at least have to pay attention to and are threatened by that would allow the wings and point to find open threes and driving lanes.

With no teams worried about the post it allows them to play aggressively on our wing motion offense. Not to mention that the pick and roll is ineffective with no big man that has the skill set for them to prioritize. This isn’t an Aidoo or Awaka hate post either. I love the both of them. In a different offensive they would have to be accounted for wherever they are on the floor. Even if we played a slightly adjusted offense they would get their opportunities down low along with the pick and roll being more effective. Which would open it up a lot more for our point and wings.

We have the golden egg we’ve needed the last few years in Knecht. He can do it all. But if Barnes sticks to this circle motion offense in which he’s shown no willingness to adjust in years, it might be more of these games down the stretch this season.

Whole season left to play, including a guaranteed decent to high tourney seed. If Barnes can find it in him and adjust a bit on offense we can make a deep run in March. This is the team and talent we need to breakthrough to a Final Four. But if Barnes continues the stubbornness that he’s shown no signs of changing… I don’t see this team getting to a Final Four even though the talent is there.

He can at least stand the **** up and coach the game. Sick of seeing him sitting on the bench.
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Nothing in this post explains why Tennessee misses so many wide open shots and layups. The point of an offensive system is to get open shots. If Tennessee never got open shots, you’d have a point, but Tennessee gets…and misses…lots and lots of open shots.
 
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I felt like we had really good looks this afternoon, we were just snake bit with a lid on the rim. I didn’t like the long jump shots Gainey and some of the guys took, but the point blank misses and the wide open 3‘s were more than enough opportunity to win this game.
 
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BigBabyWilliams said:
Just posted about this in another thread, but this is the reason we can’t breakthrough. It’s specifically his offensive plan.

He sticks with the circle motion offense, which is highly effective with a dominant big man (think Grant) that commands a double team. Or at least someone down low that teams at least have to pay attention to and are threatened by that would allow the wings and point to find open threes and driving lanes.

With no teams worried about the post it allows them to play aggressively on our wing motion offense. Not to mention that the pick and roll is ineffective with no big man that has the skill set for them to prioritize. This isn’t an Aidoo or Awaka hate post either. I love the both of them. In a different offensive they would have to be accounted for wherever they are on the floor. Even if we played a slightly adjusted offense they would get their opportunities down low along with the pick and roll being more effective. Which would open it up a lot more for our point and wings.

We have the golden egg we’ve needed the last few years in Knecht. He can do it all. But if Barnes sticks to this circle motion offense in which he’s shown no willingness to adjust in years, it might be more of these games down the stretch this season.

Whole season left to play, including a guaranteed decent to high tourney seed. If Barnes can find it in him and adjust a bit on offense we can make a deep run in March. This is the team and talent we need to breakthrough to a Final Four. But if Barnes continues the stubbornness that he’s shown no signs of changing… I don’t see this team getting to a Final Four even though the talent is there.

He can at least stand the **** up and coach the game. Sick of seeing him sitting on the bench.
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Thanks coach. 😊
 
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NighthawkVol said:
Nothing in this post explains why Tennessee misses so many wide open shots and layups. The point of an offensive system is to get open shots. If Tennessee never got open shots, you’d have a point, but Tennessee gets…and misses…lots and lots of open shots.
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Never said anything about missing open shots. But there’s a reason we went 9-33 from three tonight and it isn’t just missing open shots…the point and wings which we run our circle offense through are harassed constantly based on the fact there’s no reason for the defense to be worried about anyone in the paint.
 
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DuckInAPen said:
Now we know who didn't give his all for Tennessee today ...
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Yeah yeah, go back to Oregon! Oooh, I’d love to play Oregon in bball. They’re usually pretty good too.

I was going to go with a yo mama joke but thought you might take it seriously so I adjusted.
 
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I am as frustrated about the lack of shot-making ability as anyone, but it’s fairly clear to me that while we have some limitations on offense I don’t think it’s the scheme. We are pretty frequently getting open shots. We just are equally as frequently missing those shots.

I don’t know how to explain it. We just disappear in big games. This is why I wouldn’t be opposed to Barnes’ sending a message and playing some younger guys. I’d like to see Carr get more minutes. If you aren’t going to hit open shots, you shouldn’t play as many minutes. We have to find a dynamic shot-creator and shot-maker and Card was recruited specifically for that reason. I know he is young but at this point you have to try something new.
 
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James has to stop being passive in big games and take the ball to the rim more. He's got an NBA body--use
it to dribble-drive to the basket or to get into the lane for his nice short jumpers. He must be more aggressive.

The problem with our bigs is that they aren't go-to guys. You can't look for either of them with, say, 10 seconds left on
the shot clock and know that they can create and get a decent shot off. This is why we end up shooting too many threes, which
are only too many lately because our shooting has been embarrassingly bad.
 
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. . . Typically has guys who shoot bricks in big games . . . Don’t know why . . . But it’s undeniable .
 
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