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Report: Titans eyeing trade up to start 2nd round of NFL draft (msn.com) Report: Titans eyeing trade up to start 2nd round of NFL draft (msn.com)

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UpstateVol613 said:
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Colorado bound I bet.

Also I don't know why every draft it seems like Kiper and other ESPN "experts" seem to find someone to hype and then the entire coverage is about them slipping and someone is going to get a steal.

So now tonight's coverage will also be about Will Levis. It's kind of annoying honestly, focus on each pick and those guys no one that's tuning in gives two ***** about any player unless their team drafts them or they are from their favorite college team.

Brady Quinn, Aaron Rodgers, Johnny Manziel, Kenny Pickett, etc.

fabricated drama cause I guess they think it's what the viewers want
 
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Dudleys87 said:
How is it not his fault his film isn’t great and his workouts were worse? The “dude” just doesent have it when the lights come on.
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Think he was just saying not his fault teams used him.

I started to think more about that when Levis shot up and magically disappeared. HH also seemed like a surefire first rounder for about 2 weeks, then suddenly skated off according to some just this past week.

It's all a game of chess (or tiddly winks depending on the franchise) for the GMs and a lot of players get pulled around. Oh well. It's big boy ball, think they can handle it.
 
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Jackcrevol said:
Why do people waste time prognosticating draft picks?
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Because it's just like...


...recruiting.


A huge casino game that is as much art and luck as science. But it's entertainment at the end of the day. And the prognosticators are basically like Jerry Palm and bracketologists, trying to guess what the actual decision makers are going to do. And ofc the decision makers themselves make plenty of uncertain decisions.
 
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volbeast33 said:
It wasn’t just ESPN or Kiper saying….. it was being said by many different analysts and gambling sites…. There probably were some teams that wanted up but minds may have been changed by how the draft went.
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Right. Consensus like that doesn't come from one source. It comes from many varied folks having connections with front offices and hearing it over and over until it sticks with many different folks. It comes back to connections and conversations. These people have sources, whether they're being used or not is another question.
 
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MoCo_Vol said:
I mean geographically, Washington Commanders would be closest to Hendon's family wouldn't it? (other than the Carolina Panthers, who took a QB already). Atlanta and the Titans would be pretty close too.
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Area is split with Washington, Baltimore, and Carolina fans. Some Cowboys fans.
 
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Weezer said:
Probably not, but there are probably plenty of QBs he just never commented on. I think Peyton is from the school of "if you can't say something nice...".
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Good observation. I think so, and it amuses me. Consider further that one might understand restricting one's praise to "measurables" -- where "measurables" have the connotation of bodily measurements (let's include arm strength) -- as damning by faint praise. I know a few people who practice this art to the amusement of connoisseurs.
 
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1. Peyton doesn't talk negatively about anyone. When asked his opinion on something or someone he speaks only of the positive. He's very deliberate about this, and because of it he's not known or hated for his strong or controversial opinions. Kinda like Dolly.

2. Hendon probably doesn't care so much where he goes. I feel like he has the self-belief that he will win anywhere. Obviously that's probably not the case, and winning can be easier at some franchises than others.

3. The Titans were apparently trying hard to trade up into the first last night but couldn't get a deal done. They apparently wanted someone, maybe Nolan Smith, but if they're still trying to trade up that's interesting. I don't think they love Will Levis, so I don't think they'd try to beat anyone out for him. I'd think it'd be for one of the remaining WRs because its a huge need and their top targets already went.
 
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drvenner said:
I am not really qualified to answer. My opinion is the"system" thing is over blown, especially by our opponents.
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Different teams have different blocking schemes but I think the position is pretty much the same. The linemen are evaluated on their size, athleticism, strength, footwork (nearstep, playside step, drop step), their base (inside the shoulders, outside the armpits), how well they use leverage (physical and positional), how they manage their angles, how well they read the defense (the right guy picking up LBs, etc.) and whether or not they're all on the same page. An offensive line has to play with one set of eyes (not five sets). There is only one way to block a play. It's not the right way and it's not the wrong way; it's our way. This is true for any team. One half side of the line could be zone blocking and the back half could be man blocking, it just depends on how that play is designed. It is said that offensive line play is not natural (I assume the footwork part) and that's why it takes a while to get down. You sort of have to think it through to understand how bad footwork even if only occasionally will make the lineman vulnerable and give the defensive guy the edge.

Last year at this time I was wondering how or who we would get to replace Velus Jones. VJ's average depth of throw was about 7.6 yards or so; over 70% of VJ's receiving yards were yards after catch. He was dangerous with the ball in his hands. I figured Hyatt would be the guy but I thought Calloway was the one more like VJ. I've seen "experts" say that Hyatt is the best deep ball receiver in the draft. There's no one better. He's the best. If you throw it to him short he's not really going to do a lot with it. Less than 40% of his yards are YAC; most of his yards are air yards. That's both Heupel and Hooker. That's just the way it is. jmo.

Back to offensive line. From the long time OL coach of the Patriots, he says if you're not seeing your practice drills on game tape then you're doing the wrong drills. I've started watching our OL drills on the short clips we get from practice and then watching our games. I slow down the video so I can see the OL better. It seems to me we're doing the right drills. It's a thing of beauty when the OL is playing well. They say if you keep your hands inside on the pecs of the defender you won't ever get called for holding. If you reach, bang, holding. The idea is to control the defender with your upper body and push them around with your lower body.

By my analysis we had the 2nd best OL in the conference last year, behind Georgia. That includes run blocking and pass blocking. On the whole we were really good. I looked at our performance game by game. The Georgia game we didn't do so good but overall the OL play was critical to our offensive success last year. They weren't penalized a lot. Overall our defense was penalized much more often than our offense. Mincey (new guy last year) was the most penalize guy on the OL; Hadden was the most penalized guy on the team. Experience is critical on the OL but maybe just as critical if not more so is coaching and we seem to be doing good on that part. jmo.

72 pressures allowed was the lowest in the conference last year. Alabama gave up 129, so did Ole Miss. A&M gave up 159. SC was at 113 and UF was at 121. UK was at 107 but they also gave up the most sacks at 46. LSU gave up 45 sacks. (Pressure stats are from SECSTATCAT).

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*Note: I would attribute our low passer rating in the Vandy game to the weather, not to their defense. jmo.
 
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