The (many) indictments of Donald Trump

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whodeycin85 said:
BREAKING: Manhattan DA Accused Of Concealing Exculpatory Evidence From Grand Jury
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Well at least this time when Trump released the KRAKEN! it didn't turn out to just be a sea monkey like Sidney was. Costello has eliminated even the pretense that there is any prosecutable conduct here. Without Cohen, they have no case at all.

IF Bragg somehow gets an indictment now, it will be even more blatantly clear that this is a show trial on purely political grounds to eliminate a Presidential candidate - straight up 3rd world stuff. A call to man the barricades, etc.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
No worse than the left wing propaganda. That’s where you won’t admit. You lefties are as brainwashed as any right winger. Actually in a much worse way.
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It is worse. I would like to see both sides dial it back. I'm for moving in the correct direction. Trumpism did/does the opposite.
 
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Gandalf said:
Well at least this time when Trump released the KRAKEN! it didn't turn out to just be a sea monkey like Sidney was. Costello has eliminated even the pretense that there is any prosecutable conduct here. Without Cohen, they have no case at all.

IF Bragg somehow gets an indictment now, it will be even more blatantly clear that this is a show trial on purely political grounds to eliminate a Presidential candidate - straight up 3rd world stuff. A call to man the barricades, etc.
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So they don't have him now? Again?
 
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luthervol said:
To the degree that your concerns are appropriately spread, I'll heed your concerns.
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Excellent. Let's hope your original, still-unedited post, which could be taken literally doesn't do any harm. I would hope anyone influenced by your carelessness would continue reading to see your amendment posted later. But we can never be sure of how others engage with our posts, can we?
 
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hog88 said:
Am I correct or not about a DA not being obligated to provide the GJ with everything they have?
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Yes.

That’s pretty standard. The DA’s only incentive to present a fair and balanced accounting of the facts to the grand jury is basically docket management. Keep your felony prosecutors focused on provable cases involving victims and/or violence.

Edit: I will say this is how it works in my corner of the world. I doubt if New York is any different, in this regard, but I’m far from an expert on New York law.
 
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W.TN.Orange Blood said:
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I disagree, though I understand why this person would reach such a conclusion.

Yes this pissed off many of his supporters. But this is just an ongoing tactic to distract the country from what may be the worst administration in recent memory. Banks are collapsing. We are on the brink of WW3. We are being invaded from the south. Medicine and necessities for our children are in short supply etc etc etc. And the people in charge are busy hosting Ted Lasso and awarding biological men trophies on international women’s day as part of some sick diabolical social experiment. Our current “Leader” doesn’t even know where he’s at most moments in the day.

It’s a distraction. That’s all this is. Nothing more.
 
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whodeycin85 said:
I'm in Tennessee
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Must have been somebody else that lives in Hattiesburg.

If you’re retired or have the time and especially if you live in a city, I think it is worth going and watching general sessions court for a morning. Sit in the front behind the prosecutors and see how the sausage is made. Criminal court too, to see the contrast, if you’re really interested.

A lot of the stuff that people associate with the fairness of the criminal Justice system aren’t enforced obligations against prosecutors or police. Even the ones that are obliged are defined narrowly and rarely enforced. They generally have to be raised by the defendant.

The way Chattanooga used to be set up, there were too many cases for the first prosecutor to really know wtf was going on. Generally, the cops told them what they needed to know and the police essentially drove the bus until it got through the grand jury and everything got turned over to the felony prosecutor an defense attorney. General Sessions was a sieve. The system was sorting out most of the minor stuff where there was no dispute of fact and a bit of the more serious stuff where the state was unlikely to win on the facts.

The grand jury is a secret proceeding. I’ve never been on one but just piecing things together it is minimalistic process that may spend a few minutes on each case, they mostly just read them the affidavit and answer any questions.
 
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McDad said:
There are more smokescreens with "we've got the political opponent this time" than there are with UT coaching searches.
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What was that movie with Pearce Bronson and Renne where he steals the art painting and goes back and creates chaos and walk back in to replace? Kind of a chick movie but I liked it.
OMG..wine coolers and chick movies..I am starting to question myself.
 
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RockyTop85 said:
Must have been somebody else that lives in Hattiesburg.

If you’re retired or have the time and especially if you live in a city, I think it is worth going and watching general sessions court for a morning. Sit in the front behind the prosecutors and see how the sausage is made. Criminal court too, to see the contrast, if you’re really interested.

A lot of the stuff that people associate with the fairness of the criminal Justice system aren’t enforced obligations against prosecutors or police. Even the ones that are obliged are defined narrowly and rarely enforced. They generally have to be raised by the defendant.

The way Chattanooga used to be set up, there were too many cases for the first prosecutor to really know wtf was going on. Generally, the cops told them what they needed to know and the police essentially drove the bus until it got through the grand jury and everything got turned over to the felony prosecutor an defense attorney. General Sessions was a sieve. The system was sorting out most of the minor stuff where there was no dispute of fact and a bit of the more serious stuff where the state was unlikely to win on the facts.

The grand jury is a secret proceeding. I’ve never been on one but just piecing things together it is minimalistic process that may spend a few minutes on each case, they mostly just read them the affidavit and answer any questions.
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My wife just finished her 18 month tour of duty on a Federal Grand Jury, one day a month for 18 months. She was the spokesperson and said it was quite the education for her. I think she said only one case was not sent to trial. They went through a few cases each day, pretty short, concise, to the point and here’s the evidence. My bro in law is a litigator in Memphis. I was in town and met him at the courthouse, “the pit”, because he had a court appointment for a couple of cases before we could go to lunch. Eye opening stuff.
 
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