War in Ukraine

#62,051
#62,051
Volsdeep4 said:
And that’s against Ukraine. He should remember last time wagner and 3 militias tried to try and fight the US. 300-0 KD ratio
Click to expand...

Seriously they should. Then they wouldnt keep doing stupid things like attacking without air cover. When Russia/Wagner led Syrian large force tried to attack with armor a 30 man outpost of ours in the Battle of Khasham, they did exactly the SAME STUPID THING AS THEY ARE DOING NOW!

So our guys call the Russians and say, are these your guys? and Ivan says Nope, not us! Ok, we say. Then hellfire and damnation rains from the sky. Basically, F22/F15s do a fly by, followed by helicopters and gunships (AKA armor killers) followed by a QRF that was on its way. What was left of Ivan after the air got through had to deal with the 30 Delta/Ranger SpecOps troops that were there in the first place, now supported by the 20 or so Marines QRF. Thus, not a single 'merican was so much as wounded while Ivan's force was cut to ribbons.

Now how can they not learn from that? but it is clear from current happenings in Ukraine that they have not learned at ALL. Again, I really don't understand. Does Russia actually have an air force/ attack helicopters/ gunships? Its rhetorical. I mean, I am happy for the Ukrainians but just mystified how the ruskies could F things up so badly when they have the overwhelming capability to win.
 
  • Like
Reactions: tbh, AM64, Volsdeep4 and 2 others
#62,052
#62,052
NorthDallas40 said:
Look up two posts from yours. More of that realism.
Click to expand...

I'm not here to defend McGregor or to be favorable toward Russia? He is entitled to his opinion like everyone else.

Are you making an argument for facism when it pertains to a war?

Speaking of war, are people now admitting were in a war since they are worried about what Russia is showing in their country?

My point is two fold: 1) wtf is our strategy, and 2) when there is a moron in the WH then you get more chaos in the world.

Our country has record crime, massive debt, record illegal immigration, a corrupt DOJ, the worst race relations in decades, a weakening military because less people want to and are able to join, and a bad economy with 16 or more months of heightened inflation.

Russia invaded a sovreign nation I get that. That doesn't make it our permanent problem while this country is in the crapper. My guess is people in the intelligence community knew this was coming. You work toward a diplomatic solution before the conflict starts. Instead the Biden Administration has been ******* up everything since it started including the Afghanistan withdrawal. They have been openly poking at Russia since Hillary Clinton of all people along with Jake Sullivan and others created the fake dossier.

Personally I think we need to show strength and confidence but you can't have the person in charge looking inept for a year then be shocked when "territorial" disputes go from simmering to a fire.

A China dispute with Taiwan is also looming. There is nothing about this CIC should give any Americans confidence unless you're a lemming. When you look at they let a spy satellite fly across our country to overreacting and shooting down cheap balloons. Like everything else, they beat their chest early bragging about how they shot down UFO's then Blinklen was no where to be found to correct the record.

I am consistent. If Trump or any Republican was in office and he hadn't done what he can to put water on this conflict then I'd be critical. I'm critical of his childish behavior all the time. We can't keep spending like drunken sailors for multiple reasons and I don't think I need to go over all of those reasons with you why. Most are common sense.

I'm not as versed on this conflict as you folks that follow it daily. I don't really care all that much. I know the jokes about Russia losses. Well Ukrainians are losing to. I hope that behind the scenes there are concessions given on both sides.

I ask you, what are the options being discussed to bring an end to the conflict and not make this a never-ending war for hopefully the next administration?
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: Gandalf
#62,053
#62,053
Gandalf said:
Seriously they should. Then they wouldnt keep doing stupid things like attacking without air cover. When Russia/Wagner led Syrian large force tried to attack with armor a 30 man outpost of ours in the Battle of Khasham, they did exactly the SAME STUPID THING AS THEY ARE DOING NOW!

So our guys call the Russians and say, are these your guys? and Ivan says Nope, not us! Ok, we say. Then hellfire and damnation rains from the sky. Basically, F22/F15s do a fly by, followed by helicopters and gunships (AKA armor killers) followed by a QRF that was on its way. What was left of Ivan after the air got through had to deal with the 30 Delta/Ranger SpecOps troops that were there in the first place, now supported by the 20 or so Marines QRF. Thus, not a single 'merican was so much as wounded while Ivan's force was cut to ribbons.

Now how can they not learn from that? but it is clear from current happenings in Ukraine that they have not learned at ALL. Again, I really don't understand. Does Russia actually have an air force/ attack helicopters/ gunships? Its rhetorical. I mean, I am happy for the Ukrainians but just mystified how the ruskies could F things up so badly when they have the overwhelming capability to win.
Click to expand...
There are rumors that a Specialist scraped a knee when he ate chit while collecting ammo.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Gandalf
#62,054
#62,054
NorthDallas40 said:
Here come Prigozhin’s excuses on why he can’t take Bakhmut 😂 If he’s squawking like this already while fighting continues it would likely indicate he doesn’t expect to prevail and is setting the stage to excuse his merc’s failures.

Prigozhin Says Jealous Kremlin Deliberately Stopped Wagner Taking Bakhmut
Click to expand...

Very clear that the sole reason Russia isnt sitting in Kiev right now is because of this competition between units. It is exactly as the video I posted the other day by Cappy - Russia is not fighting as a single army but multiple ones in competition with each other. Therefore units do not coordinate and the CandC is abysmal. Thats why armor is not supported by air and air by gunship and infantry with armor, etc.
 
#62,055
#62,055
BreatheUT said:
I'm not here to defend McGregor or to be favorable toward Russia? He is entitled to his opinion like everyone else.

Are you making an argument for facism when it pertains to a war?

Speaking of war, are people now admitting were in a war since they are worried about what Russia is showing in their country?

My point is two fold: 1) wtf is our strategy, and 2) when there is a moron in the WH then you get more chaos in the world.

Our country has record crime, massive debt, record illegal immigration, a corrupt DOJ, the worst race relations in decades, a weakening military because less people want to and are able to join, and a bad economy with 16 or more months of heightened inflation.

Russia invaded a sovreign nation I get that. That doesn't make it our permanent problem while this country is in the crapper. My guess is people in the intelligence community knew this was coming. You work toward a diplomatic solution before the conflict starts. Instead the Biden Administration has been ******* up everything since it started including the Afghanistan withdrawal. They have been openly poking at Russia since Hillary Clinton of all people along with Jake Sullivan and others created the fake dossier.

Personally I think we need to show strength and confidence but you can't have the person in charge looking inept for a year then be shocked when "territorial" disputes go from simmering to a fire.

A China dispute with Taiwan is also looming. There is nothing about this CIC should give any Americans confidence unless you're a lemming. When you look at they let a spy satellite fly across our country to overreacting and shooting down cheap balloons. Like everything else, they beat their chest early bragging about how they shot down UFO's then Blinklen was no where to be found to correct the record.

I am consistent. If Trump or any Republican was in office and he hadn't done what he can to put water on this conflict then I'd be critical. I'm critical of his childish behavior. We can't keep sending like drunken sailors for multiple reasons and I don't think I need to go over all of those reasons with you.

I'm not as versed on this conflict as you folks that follow it daily. I don't really care all that much. I know the jokes about Russia losses. Well Ukrainians are losing to. I hope that behind the scenes there are concessions given on both sides.

I ask you, what are the options being discussed to bring an end to the conflict and not make this a never-ending war for hopefully the next administration?
Click to expand...
I’ll admit I didn’t even read your whole post based on your other posts in here I knew it would be a waste of time. And yeah you hopped on propping up Macgregor whether you want to admit it or not.

I did read you last paragraph though. And right now I don’t see a never ending war being possible unless someone props up Russia. Thus far no one has been willing to draw that collective wrath. But Russia could end it today. However since they won’t as I’ve stated before we need to abide by our agreement that we never should have entered and both Obama and Trump are culpable in not arming Ukraine sooner to help them protect their sovereign territory lines just as we agreed we’d do
 
#62,056
#62,056
Gandalf said:
Seriously they should. Then they wouldnt keep doing stupid things like attacking without air cover. When Russia/Wagner led Syrian large force tried to attack with armor a 30 man outpost of ours in the Battle of Khasham, they did exactly the SAME STUPID THING AS THEY ARE DOING NOW!

So our guys call the Russians and say, are these your guys? and Ivan says Nope, not us! Ok, we say. Then hellfire and damnation rains from the sky. Basically, F22/F15s do a fly by, followed by helicopters and gunships (AKA armor killers) followed by a QRF that was on its way. What was left of Ivan after the air got through had to deal with the 30 Delta/Ranger SpecOps troops that were there in the first place, now supported by the 20 or so Marines QRF. Thus, not a single 'merican was so much as wounded while Ivan's force was cut to ribbons.

Now how can they not learn from that? but it is clear from current happenings in Ukraine that they have not learned at ALL. Again, I really don't understand. Does Russia actually have an air force/ attack helicopters/ gunships? Its rhetorical. I mean, I am happy for the Ukrainians but just mystified how the ruskies could F things up so badly when they have the overwhelming capability to win.
Click to expand...

They always do this. They have absolutely no issue with throwing men into the meat grinder. This is what they have done, and this is what they will always do. They won't try to negotiate a peace deal with Ukraine until they have lost close to 500K men. That's probably another 18 to 24 months of combat.

When we see another major war in Asia those nations will go at it kamikaze style. It's what they do. You can kill them at a 10 to 1 ratio and they don't care at all.

Tigers don't change their stripes.
 
  • Like
Reactions: AM64 and Volsdeep4
#62,057
#62,057
Gandalf said:
Very clear that the sole reason Russia isnt sitting in Kiev right now is because of this competition between units. It is exactly as the video I posted the other day by Cappy - Russia is not fighting as a single army but multiple ones in competition with each other. Therefore units do not coordinate and the CandC is abysmal. Thats why armor is not supported by air and air by gunship and infantry with armor, etc.
Click to expand...
The total lack of coordinated combined arms is just another glaring indicator of what a paper tiger the Russian military is and how much everyone grossly overestimated their capability.
 
  • Like
Reactions: AM64 and norrislakevol
#62,060
#62,060
Gandalf said:
Seriously they should. Then they wouldnt keep doing stupid things like attacking without air cover. When Russia/Wagner led Syrian large force tried to attack with armor a 30 man outpost of ours in the Battle of Khasham, they did exactly the SAME STUPID THING AS THEY ARE DOING NOW!

So our guys call the Russians and say, are these your guys? and Ivan says Nope, not us! Ok, we say. Then hellfire and damnation rains from the sky. Basically, F22/F15s do a fly by, followed by helicopters and gunships (AKA armor killers) followed by a QRF that was on its way. What was left of Ivan after the air got through had to deal with the 30 Delta/Ranger SpecOps troops that were there in the first place, now supported by the 20 or so Marines QRF. Thus, not a single 'merican was so much as wounded while Ivan's force was cut to ribbons.

Now how can they not learn from that? but it is clear from current happenings in Ukraine that they have not learned at ALL. Again, I really don't understand. Does Russia actually have an air force/ attack helicopters/ gunships? Its rhetorical. I mean, I am happy for the Ukrainians but just mystified how the ruskies could F things up so badly when they have the overwhelming capability to win.
Click to expand...
The only thing that I’m confused about is. Since this is a “special military operation” does Russia have their trained military in ukraine or is it just conscripts and Wagner? Sorry if it’s a stupid question.
 
#62,063
#62,063
Burhead said:
Click to expand...

That isn’t going to change anything unless Russia capitulates and is forced to recognize their authority. Gerkin or Prigozhin was found guilty in absentia by the ICC and still wanders around. The US doesn’t recognize their authority either. While I’d love to see some Hague war crimes trials without a defeated Russia it’s just more show.
 
  • Like
Reactions: AM64, norrislakevol and tvolsfan
#62,065
#62,065
Volsdeep4 said:
The only thing that I’m confused about is. Since this is a “special military operation” does Russia have their trained military in ukraine or is it just conscripts and Wagner? Sorry if it’s a stupid question.
Click to expand...

AFAIK yes, plenty of Russian regulars there. The problem is that battlegroups like Wagner arent really battlegroups like we have, meaning they are not fully complete fighting groups supported by a larger command (brigade) of complementary forces. I would hazard that Wagner has armor (some) and infantry units but not air and gunships. Same with Chechnya, etc. Meanwhile, the Ivan regulars are moving forward but their officers are more focused on graft and less on getting material into battle - but especialy to support these other units that are more highly paid and showing them up. They also clearly just dont have the comms.
 
  • Like
Reactions: AM64 and Volsdeep4
#62,066
#62,066
"Are banks failing in Russia like they are here in the US?" - Scott Ritter

Good question and I think every honest person knows the answer. The US is badly losing both the physical and economic war. Another huge embarrassment for the Western Death Cult. You hate to see it.
 
#62,067
#62,067
volgr said:
"Are banks failing in Russia like they are here in the US?" - Scott Ritter

Good question and I think every honest person knows the answer. The US is badly losing both the physical and economic war. Another huge embarrassment for the Western Death Cult. You hate to see it.
Click to expand...
Yes. On and off since late February 2022 oddly. And for Ritter to even ask that while knowing there have been shows yet again what a bought and paid for paid shill he is. I thought you orc purists didn’t like pedos?

Long lines at Russia's ATMs as bank run begins — with more pain to come

But at least the Russian central bank didn’t intervene amirite? 🤡

KEY POINTS
  • Russia's central bank announced it would more than double its key interest rate from 9.5% to 20% in an attempt to stabilize the ruble.
  • The central bank also introduced some capital controls to limit how much money could leave the country.
  • "This is a full-fledged bank run that's already underway," Maximilian Hess, a Russian economy expert and fellow at the Foreign Policy Research Institute, told CNBC.
 
  • Like
Reactions: AM64, norrislakevol and tvolsfan
#62,068
#62,068
Gandalf said:
Very clear that the sole reason Russia isnt sitting in Kiev right now is because of this competition between units. It is exactly as the video I posted the other day by Cappy - Russia is not fighting as a single army but multiple ones in competition with each other. Therefore units do not coordinate and the CandC is abysmal. Thats why armor is not supported by air and air by gunship and infantry with armor, etc.
Click to expand...

Russia isnt sitting in Kiev right now only because they choose not to be. Zelensky is still alive currently because Russia allows him to be. There is a time and place for everything.
 
#62,075
#62,075
Gandalf said:
Seriously they should. Then they wouldnt keep doing stupid things like attacking without air cover. When Russia/Wagner led Syrian large force tried to attack with armor a 30 man outpost of ours in the Battle of Khasham, they did exactly the SAME STUPID THING AS THEY ARE DOING NOW!

So our guys call the Russians and say, are these your guys? and Ivan says Nope, not us! Ok, we say. Then hellfire and damnation rains from the sky. Basically, F22/F15s do a fly by, followed by helicopters and gunships (AKA armor killers) followed by a QRF that was on its way. What was left of Ivan after the air got through had to deal with the 30 Delta/Ranger SpecOps troops that were there in the first place, now supported by the 20 or so Marines QRF. Thus, not a single 'merican was so much as wounded while Ivan's force was cut to ribbons.

Now how can they not learn from that? but it is clear from current happenings in Ukraine that they have not learned at ALL. Again, I really don't understand. Does Russia actually have an air force/ attack helicopters/ gunships? Its rhetorical. I mean, I am happy for the Ukrainians but just mystified how the ruskies could F things up so badly when they have the overwhelming capability to win.
Click to expand...

The audio clips from calls concerning the battle of Khasham are echoed by the intercepted calls that Ukrainian intelligence has published. The only difference is that Ukraine doesn't have the artillery numbers, or the air assets necessary to inflict 300-0 K/D ratios, but the tactics being employed by Russia are pretty much the same.
Zakharova Downplays Armed Clash with Americans in Syria, Kremlin-linked Audio Recordings Contradict Her Story
 
  • Like
Reactions: Volsdeep4 and Gandalf
New posts
You must log in or register to reply here.

VN Store



Back
Top