The Problems with Trans-ideology

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Franklin Pierce said:
The hidden Dangers of 'gender-affirming care': 55% of Trans Women who have 'bottom surgery' are in so much Pain they need medical care years later — and up to a third struggle to use the toilet or have sex, study suggests

More than half of trans women who have 'bottom' surgery are in so much pain a year later they need medical attention, a study suggests.

Up to a third of patients also struggled to use the toilet or suffered sexual issues 12 months after the operation, which sees patients transitioning from male to female given a surgically constructed vagina.

Researchers from the Women's College Hospital (WCH) in Ontario, Canada, analyzed the medical records of 80 patients who sought care from the clinic between three months and five years after having the operation.

Campaigners say the findings demonstrate that complex surgeries like vaginoplasty often carry risks that patients are unaware of - despite a dramatic uptick in the number of gender reconstruction surgeries performed annually in the US.

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Of the 80 trans women sampled in the Canadian study, almost 54% reported ongoing pain up to two years after their vaginoplasty surgery. Many had more than one symptom, which included vaginal dryness, numbness, malodor and issues with the wound's healing

Half of trans surgery patients suffer extreme pain, sexual issues years later | Daily Mail Online
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Hey, sign me up...
 
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Franklin Pierce said:
The hidden Dangers of 'gender-affirming care': 55% of Trans Women who have 'bottom surgery' are in so much Pain they need medical care years later — and up to a third struggle to use the toilet or have sex, study suggests

More than half of trans women who have 'bottom' surgery are in so much pain a year later they need medical attention, a study suggests.

Up to a third of patients also struggled to use the toilet or suffered sexual issues 12 months after the operation, which sees patients transitioning from male to female given a surgically constructed vagina.

Researchers from the Women's College Hospital (WCH) in Ontario, Canada, analyzed the medical records of 80 patients who sought care from the clinic between three months and five years after having the operation.

Campaigners say the findings demonstrate that complex surgeries like vaginoplasty often carry risks that patients are unaware of - despite a dramatic uptick in the number of gender reconstruction surgeries performed annually in the US.

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Of the 80 trans women sampled in the Canadian study, almost 54% reported ongoing pain up to two years after their vaginoplasty surgery. Many had more than one symptom, which included vaginal dryness, numbness, malodor and issues with the wound's healing

Half of trans surgery patients suffer extreme pain, sexual issues years later | Daily Mail Online
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The medical community is failing horrendously here. A real black eye.
 
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Video: Doctors Trained to Affirm Transgender Identity Among Children

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A training video created by the Medical University of South Carolina (MUSC) in partnership with the Fenway Institute encourages doctors to affirm the transgender identification of young children.

Doctors were trained by the MUSC to reaffirm transgender identification among minors, a training video reviewed by Breitbart News reveals.

During the training video, titled “Talking with a Parent and Child About Gender Identity,” a doctor asks a young child, referred to as Sam, what his gender is. “Can you tell me, do you feel like a boy, like a girl, like both, or like neither?” the doctor asks the young child in the video before adding “There’s no right answer.”

Doctors Trained to Affirm Transgender Identity Among Children
 
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utvolpj said:
Sure but I've never heard a nose/chin/etc being called body mutilation or the person called mentally ill
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Youre smarter than this. The underlying mental illness of Gender Dysphoria is the reason behind these hormones and surgeries that are actually mutilating breasts, penises, and vaginas. Getting a nosejob or facelift is people trying to stop the effects of aging, or in a nosejob fixing something they think doesnt look quite right....after the surgery those folks are still either the male or female they were born as, and they arent making up a dozen new fictional genders, trying to force their delusions on ALL sane people who understand that biologically there are only 2 sexes in humans. The facelift/nosejob crowd is also somehow fair game for massive criticism in every celebrity focused media....while the mentally ill folks are supposed to be a new, protected class...AND this transmovement bullcrap is trying to alter everyones way of interacting with eachother by trying to convince folks that you are somehow rude or bigoted for NOT asking about and sharing ones "pronouns"....

It is absolutely hogwash, i will not give these delusions legitimacy nor be part of an attempt to normalize what is clearly NOT normal.

If your 15yo kid looks in the mirror and sees an obese girl, when in reality she weighs 90lbs what would you do? Get her help immediately, due to her mental illness of anorexia right???

Same 15yo daughter looks in the mirror and sees a boy, what should you do? Get her help immediately, because she has a mental illness called gender dysphoria. Same solution.

NOT take her to get put on male hormones, cut off her breasts, and mutilate her vagina trying in vain to make a working penis which she will never actually have!! WTH are these people doing? There is nothing OK or normal about this trans crap being done to minor children. It should be a crime to do any of these things to anyone under 18yo.

That is an apples to apples comparison. Not what you posted bro.
 
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ElvisPelvis said:
Nobody in this thread has ever talked to a trans person in their entire life
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Sure I have. But either way the original intent of the thread was more focused on trans ideology.

Such as the false claims from the left that “trans suicide is because of lack of acceptance”, yet trans suicide rates have not decreased over the years as acceptance has improved.

The entire medical community is currently pushing the claim that we have to “treat” (mutilate) trans youth in order to prevent their suicide, yet there’s been no change in outcome. At some point you have to ask the question, “are we treating the wrong thing”?

If the problem is with the mind, mutilating the body or affirming someone’s delusions is not a solution.
 
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ElvisPelvis said:
All you read is clickbait articles from Glenn Beck (lol) and think thats how the world is
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Interesting. Tell us how the world is? Specifically I’m curious about one aspect of the world as it relates to trans ideology.

Every year the rate of trans youth seems to increase. The claim is “more people are comfortable coming out because acceptance is higher”.

Every year trans suicide rates remain through the roof.

We are told we must “treat” these children otherwise they will kill themselves, yet historically child suicide is lower than today.

How do you explain that? If we have historically undertreated the trans community from a medical perspective, why are youth suicide rates higher today than previous decades?
 
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If adults want to give in to their mental illness and try in vain to "transition " (impossible) from 1 sex to the other...this is still a somewhat free country and they are welcome to mutilate their bodies if they choose.

On the contrary....parents AND any doctors that are caught performing surgeries, prescribing hormones, or in parents cases signing permission for these atrocities while paying for rhem....those adults should be charged with crimes which carry significant sentences as well as being suspended from practicing medicine. We need real, severe penalties to wake these clowns up. Now.
 
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Trans acceptance is absolutely not at an all time high. Just look at this thread. Like the idiot above me, calling it mental illness. I bet he thinks homosexuality is mental illness as well.
 
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marcusluvsvols said:
Youre smarter than this. The underlying mental illness of Gender Dysphoria is the reason behind these hormones and surgeries that are actually mutilating breasts, penises, and vaginas. Getting a nosejob or facelift is people trying to stop the effects of aging, or in a nosejob fixing something they think doesnt look quite right....after the surgery those folks are still either the male or female they were born as, and they arent making up a dozen new fictional genders, trying to force their delusions on ALL sane people who understand that biologically there are only 2 sexes in humans. The facelift/nosejob crowd is also somehow fair game for massive criticism in every celebrity focused media....while the mentally ill folks are supposed to be a new, protected class...AND this transmovement bullcrap is trying to alter everyones way of interacting with eachother by trying to convince folks that you are somehow rude or bigoted for NOT asking about and sharing ones "pronouns"....

It is absolutely hogwash, i will not give these delusions legitimacy nor be part of an attempt to normalize what is clearly NOT normal.

If your 15yo kid looks in the mirror and sees an obese girl, when in reality she weighs 90lbs what would you do? Get her help immediately, due to her mental illness of anorexia right???

Same 15yo daughter looks in the mirror and sees a boy, what should you do? Get her help immediately, because she has a mental illness called gender dysphoria. Same solution.

NOT take her to get put on male hormones, cut off her breasts, and mutilate her vagina trying in vain to make a working penis which she will never actually have!! WTH are these people doing? There is nothing OK or normal about this trans crap being done to minor children. It should be a crime to do any of these things to anyone under 18yo.

That is an apples to apples comparison. Not what you posted bro.
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Youre confusing sex with gender. Please step outside your comfort zone and read a book
 
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marcusluvsvols said:
Youre smarter than this. The underlying mental illness of Gender Dysphoria is the reason behind these hormones and surgeries that are actually mutilating breasts, penises, and vaginas. Getting a nosejob or facelift is people trying to stop the effects of aging, or in a nosejob fixing something they think doesnt look quite right....after the surgery those folks are still either the male or female they were born as, and they arent making up a dozen new fictional genders, trying to force their delusions on ALL sane people who understand that biologically there are only 2 sexes in humans. The facelift/nosejob crowd is also somehow fair game for massive criticism in every celebrity focused media....while the mentally ill folks are supposed to be a new, protected class...AND this transmovement bullcrap is trying to alter everyones way of interacting with eachother by trying to convince folks that you are somehow rude or bigoted for NOT asking about and sharing ones "pronouns"....

It is absolutely hogwash, i will not give these delusions legitimacy nor be part of an attempt to normalize what is clearly NOT normal.

If your 15yo kid looks in the mirror and sees an obese girl, when in reality she weighs 90lbs what would you do? Get her help immediately, due to her mental illness of anorexia right???

Same 15yo daughter looks in the mirror and sees a boy, what should you do? Get her help immediately, because she has a mental illness called gender dysphoria. Same solution.

NOT take her to get put on male hormones, cut off her breasts, and mutilate her vagina trying in vain to make a working penis which she will never actually have!! WTH are these people doing? There is nothing OK or normal about this trans crap being done to minor children. It should be a crime to do any of these things to anyone under 18yo.

That is an apples to apples comparison. Not what you posted bro.
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The surgery in the discussion was absolutely no different than a nose job/ face lift. If one is mentally ill body mutilation then both fit. The difference is your simply more willing to accept one which is very confusing if you want to take a consistent stance.
 
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utvolpj said:
The surgery in the discussion was absolutely no different than a nose job/ face lift. If one is mentally ill body mutilation then both fit. The difference is your simply more willing to accept one which is very confusing if you want to take a consistent stance.
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He had multiple surgeries done to bring about feminine features correct? Isn't multiple plastic surgeries done a mental illness called body dysmorphia...therefore consistency would be applying mental illness to both that and gender dysphoria.
 
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whodeycin85 said:
He had multiple surgeries done to bring about feminine features correct? Isn't multiple plastic surgeries done a mental illness called body dysmorphia...therefore consistency would be applying mental illness to both that and gender dysphoria.
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is it? If so then use it across the board. Quit hiding behind the excuses like "fighting aging" and call all elective plastic surgery a mental illness. You know, for consistency
 
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utvolpj said:
is it? If so then use it across the board. Quit hiding behind the excuses like "fighting aging" and call all elective plastic surgery a mental illness. You know, for consistency
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I agree with you.....I any unnecessary surgeries are a sign of some sort of mental illness whether it be those we spoke of or hypochondria....
 
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utvolpj said:
is it? If so then use it across the board. Quit hiding behind the excuses like "fighting aging" and call all elective plastic surgery a mental illness. You know, for consistency
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Not all plastic surgery is a mental illness, that's asinine. Some surgeries are medically necessary but I would say far too many are a result of mental illness.
 
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hog88 said:
Not all plastic surgery is a mental illness, that's asinine. Some surgeries are medically necessary but I would say far too many are a result of mental illness.
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I said elective. Many of the ones being called mental illness or mutilation in this thread are done all the time in the suburbs but aren't tagged as such.
 
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utvolpj said:
I said elective. Many of the ones being called mental illness or mutilation in this thread are done all the time in the suburbs but aren't tagged as such.
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Not all elective plastic surgeries are a result of mental illness. Breast reductions in most cases are not medically necessary but can be beneficial.
 
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utvolpj said:
I said elective. Many of the ones being called mental illness or mutilation in this thread are done all the time in the suburbs but aren't tagged as such.
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Call a spade a spade. The person that had their entire face done in order to look like the oppo sex more than likely would follow that up with other surgeries performed below the neck line. Guys getting boobs is mental illness, women making them bigger is elective surgery. Having your penis removed is mental illness, have you clitoris pierced is elective. Step up PJ and stopped arguing to argue.
 
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