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Orange_Crush said:
That's ridiculous. We're talking about the same overall record. And that "cardinal rule" is nowhere on the committee's list of criteria. If it were, there'd probably be less bitching. The fact of the matter is that UT beats Bama in every metric the committee listed, and yet here we are...

I won't lose sleep over it. As mentioned earlier, I'm enjoying seeing the groundswell of media narrative to potential recruits that UT is better than Bama and Bama is just a coddled dinosaur that has to get by on reputation.

But it's pretty lame to completely ignore the committee's self-published criteria for some unwritten "cardinal rule" that the committee then comes out and denies using, while admitting they use, and again deny using.
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It's been obvious for decades that rankings and polls and committees prioritize bad losses over everything else. Barely beating Bama at home doesn't trump a horrific loss to SC in their minds, and if you're surprised by that, you just need to look at history. Couple that with losing Hooker, and it was super obvious that this is what they were going to do.

If you trust any group of humans to behave exactly like they say they will, you REALLY need to look at history more.

And on top of it, the committee rankings don't really matter beyond the top 4. Who cares what a bunch of bureaucrats think? The bowls will choose who they want.
 
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Jimmy Football said:
Rose Bowl, for most of my life: “We’re the biggest game in college sports. We will only take the best teams from the best conferences, and will accept nothing less.”

Rose Bowl, 2022: “We’re the Outback Bowl. Sure, give us Penn State. Whatever.”
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The Red Headed Step-Granddaddy of Them All!!!
 
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Jimmy Football said:
It’s hard to defend a team whose best win was a 1-pt win over an 8-4 Texas team who played most of the game without their starting quarterback. That’s all we’re saying.
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whataboutism. i never said bama deserved anything. only that I could understand why we aren't top ranked anymore.
 
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BigSteve09 said:
looks like the site crashed or they took down voting. i think OSU bots were overwhelming the site and the admin took it down or recognized the practices and took it down to reimplement measures we've seen them use in previous rounds
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Bs. They should've had the captcha the whole time. Now Marvin has a huge lead and they add the captcha again, making it hard to catch him.
 
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jave36 said:
It's been obvious for decades that rankings and polls and committees prioritize bad losses over everything else. Barely beating Bama at home doesn't trump a horrific loss to SC in their minds, and if you're surprised by that, you just need to look at history. Couple that with losing Hooker, and it was super obvious that this is what they were going to do.

If you trust any group of humans to behave exactly like they say they will, you REALLY need to look at history more.

And on top of it, the committee rankings don't really matter beyond the top 4. Who cares what a bunch of bureaucrats think? The bowls will choose who they want.
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And if you expect people to stop pointing out when people don't act according to their own standards, don't expect everyone to fall in line behind you. (All those negatives... Ugh... Don't expect everyone to get in line behind you per lack of accountability to one's own standard.)
 
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Also some food for the thought...

(all based on a minimum of 50 passing attempts)
1st in Career QB Rating: Hooker at 178.3
1st in Career Completion %: Hooker at 68.8%
1st in Career Yards per Attempt: Hooker at 9.6
2nd in Career TD to INT %: Hooker at 0.8% (Milton has yet to throw an INT at TN so he's first)

Hooker also will leave as only the second UT QB to reach 3500 passing yards and 1000 rushing yards in their career (Dobbs being the first)
 
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Batman1948 said:
I voted a little while ago and had to answer the math question---what is 8+4. I had to ask Siri but I must have gotten it right because my vote counted :p:p:p
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Does it still let you vote if you answer wrong, just as long as you answer?

We need to get a mouse movement recorder to get caught up.
 
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mrorange211 said:
whataboutism. i never said bama deserved anything. only that I could understand why we aren't top ranked anymore.
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It's hard to make a nuanced point on the internet. You're either fully in favor or one point of view or fully against.

I think we deserve to be ranked above Bama, but I can see the other side too. When there are so many variables, it's impossible to say objectively one side is 100% right or wrong, even if I'm confident in my point of view.

It's hard for me to care about the opinions of the committee when I've seen how stupid they are, and their ranking doesn't determine anything for certain outside the top 4. Same as the Heisman voters. They've proven to be juvenile in their voting for decades, so who cares what they think?
 
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Orange_Crush said:
And if you expect people to stop pointing out when people don't act according to their own standards, don't expect everyone to fall in line behind you. (All those negatives... Ugh... Don't expect everyone to get in line behind you per lack of accountability to one's own standard.)
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Fair enough. Just seems like everyone is super riled up like it was a shock and we will suffer consequences because of their decision. Yes, the committee are mostly fools. It's hard for me to understand people getting so upset over something they knew was coming.
 
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Batman1948 said:
They've figured out a bot to answer their little math question prior to the vote counting?
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If someone wanted to figure out how to bypass it with a script they could. I’ve never used the common bot software out there so I can’t get into the specifics of what those can handle, but basic script writing from someone that knows what they’re doing wouldn't be terribly difficult.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
Do you think Danny White has that "don't make waves" mentality? To me he comes across as NOT having that mindset.
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He backchannels. I wouldn't mind seeing a little more OTR-- selectively, of course. Can't complain about everything. But when the situation warrants, a few well-placed comments would get the point across. Can people that dislike and criticize UT dislike and criticize us that much more? Playing nice certainly hasn't made us popular. We're hated in all the fun sports.
 
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MoCo_Vol said:
So let me play devil's advocate a bit...

Team A: 10-2 (both losses to teams in top 15 of latest CFP)
3-2 against top 25 teams
both losses on road and both on last play of game, total combined points of losses 4 points
SOS in the top 30
Plays in P5 Conference

Team B: 10-2 (both losses to teams in top 20 of latest CFP)
5-1 against top 25 teams
both losses on road and both losses by at least 2 TDs, total combined points of losses 39 points
SOS in the top 30
Plays in P5 Conference

Team C: 10-2 (both losses to teams in top 5 of latest CFP)
0-2 against top 25 teams
1 loss on road and 1 at home, both losses by at least 2 TDs, total combined points of losses 37 points
SOS in the top 50
Plays in P5 Conference

Team D: 10-2 (both losses to teams in top 25 of latest CFP)
3-0 against top 25 teams
1 loss on road and 1 at home, combined points of losses 22
SOS in the top 60
Plays in P5 Conference
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Let me play devil's advocate, were there any head to head match-ups between any of these teams?
 
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