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[Weezer]

Lol…don’t accept data. Got it.

Not looking to argue, but could you answer one question? What does the data say about teams with lesser talent that play better defense? Makes me think those less talented players are better coached.

 

[VOLSONLY]

Are you Willie Martinez? Lol

 

[Glocker_Alum_2005]

Prayers++

 

[KPT_VFL]

Sadly I am really nervous about this Vandy game. I pray this team didn’t quit. 1 more win and then regroup with a month of rest and bowl prep. I just know a Butch or Pruitt team would lose this game we gotta break that cycle.

 

[peaygolf]

Feeling really bad y’all. Heading to doctor to get flu and Covid tests. Prayer please.

Gods got ya

 

[Weezer]

That's how Saturday night felt.

 

[tnhunter 10]

Let's focus our firing coaches energy toward Kellie Harper. She's horrible

I was just about to ask if DW makes a change. There's a ton of talent on the LV team. Kellie may be worst that Holly.

 

[Govolsman98]

I was just about to ask if DW makes a change. There's a ton of talent on the LV team. Kellie may be worst that Holly.

Yea I know they were supposed to be super talented. 2-4 is a pretty bad. Especially since they've mainly been blown out in these losses. If she misses the tourney that's for sure a fireable offense

 

[smokeyhuntsgators]

Sadly I am really nervous about this Vandy game. I pray this team didn’t quit. 1 more win and then regroup with a month of rest and bowl prep. I just know a Butch or Pruitt team would lose this game we gotta break that cycle.

Well thank God neither one of them is the coach.

 

[JCP201]

Let's focus our firing coaches energy toward Kellie Harper. She's horrible

I saw some improvement from last time I watched them, but Key has regressed terribly.

 

[tnhunter 10]

Sooner or later the topic of her husband being hired as an assistant will come up again…that whole hiring process was definitely questionable from the start…but the rooted long time lady vol big money donors I think was ok with it because she wasn’t Holly and a former player..

Alot of LV faithful believe the only coach can be a LV or a female. Just hire the best coach.

 

[Orangeburst]

Alot of LV faithful believe the only coach can be a LV or a female. Just hire the best coach.

Seems the Admin has been down this road before.

 

[Govolsman98]

I saw some improvement from last time I watched them, but Key has regressed terribly.

Well hopefully they keep getting better and do really well in SEC play

 

[volbeast33]

Not looking to argue, but could you answer one question? What does the data say about teams with lesser talent that play better defense? Makes me think those less talented players are better coached.

Which team are you referring to specifically?

 

[volbeast33]

Alot of LV faithful believe the only coach can be a LV or a female. Just hire the best coach.

DW will make a good hire.

 

[Weezer]

Which team are you referring to specifically?

Do I need to be specific? Are you saying you can't think of ANY teams with lesser talent that play better defense? A paper bag plays better defense than we do.

 

[Glitch]

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He wasn't trying to be unsportsmanlike! He was just giving a shoutout to his fraternity brothers in the Fraternity of Silly Walks.

 

[Smyrna ATL Vol]

Lol…don’t accept data. Got it.

Not arguing with someone who is making their own narrative and wouldn’t know the truth if it hit him in the face.

 

[Enki_Amenra]

Flu A. I get Covid results tomorrow.

I know it sucks to feel sick, but. . . at least it's not July! Summer flu is the worst!

 

[Enki_Amenra]

Sadly I am really nervous about this Vandy game. I pray this team didn’t quit. 1 more win and then regroup with a month of rest and bowl prep. I just know a Butch or Pruitt team would lose this game we gotta break that cycle.

My worry is how much our offense and ability changes without Hooker. I'm chalking the Vandy game up to "it don't matter", since we're without our Heisman candidate QB for the 1st game all season.

 

[Enki_Amenra]

I was just about to ask if DW makes a change. There's a ton of talent on the LV team. Kellie may be worst that Holly.

Holly Jollie just needs a few more years to get her system and players in, right @InVOLuntary ?

 

[jakez4ut]

I don't get it. No one predicted we would beat Bama, LSU, Florida, and Pitt and have a chance to win 10-11 games this year. We have played above our heads all year long. Now, we have a really bad loss to a bad SC team, and we're trying to find something wrong with us. Why can't the reason be that we have played above our heads all year, especially with the lack of talent we have on defense. We went to a road environment at night, we played horrible and also lost our starting QB, both starting corners, and a starting WR while also missing our best LB and at the same time SC played outstanding. Yes, some of that was due to our poor defense, but anyone who watches that game can see that Rattler played at a level he had never played at before. He was dropping dimes, even when on the run he was putting balls on the money. Sometimes that happens. Why do we have to find something wrong?

I don't understand this firing everybody, looking for internal problems, trying to find something to blame. Fact is, we are still a low talent team on defense and SC played above their heads and we played horribly. But this doesn't mean that everything is burning down, or that our program is about to be in shambles, or whatever else I've seen.

Look at other teams. UGA went 8-4 in year 1 with a loss to Vandy. Yes, they went to the NC in year 2, but they played no one to get there. They had a pitiful SOC that year, and they got blown out by AU in the regular season. They got to go to the NC because they played AU again, instead of Alabama in Atlanta and then went on to lose to Bama for the championship game. That playoff appearance doesn't happen if they play Bama in Atlanta.

In year 3, GA went 11-3, with a blowout loss to a mediocre LSU team, a loss to Bama in Atlanta, and a loss to a mediocre Texas team in the bowl game.
In year 4, Kirby lost to a 4-8 (4-8!!!!) SC team in a day time game at Willie B and then got blown out by LSU in Atlanta.

In year 5, Kirby went 8-2 with blowout losses to Florida and Alabama. Uncompetitive losses in both games.

And Kirby did that with far more, far more talent than what Heup has. Our roster would not compete with any of those rosters, especially on defense, and we're wanting to burn the program down looking for answers because of one bad loss. So many are panicked because of one bad loss? Give me a break! That doesn't mean that some changes shouldn't be made on defense, but I just don't understand why there are so many looking for explanations to what happened. It's year 2.

agreed.
nobody needs to be fired because of that game. saying otherwise is lazy and emotional.
Saturday sucked....lots of reasons for that, some of which i would maybe challenge as being a good thing.
lots of reasons to still look at this season as a slam dunk success, w/out question.

to sum up, you can be disappointed at what we lost, as far as the opportunity this season presented, and still be very excited about this season and overall direction of the program. this season has been great. it just can't be....greater...anymore.

can still finish 11-2 and as a top 5-10 program. sign me up for that every year.

 

[Jackcrevol]

Not if Martinez is still coaching them.

just stop

 

[Enki_Amenra]

He wasn't trying to be unsportsmanlike! He was just giving a shoutout to his fraternity brothers in the Fraternity of Silly Walks.

I don't understand why players want to be excessive with showboating, knowing they can and probably will get flagged for it.

 

[Jackcrevol]

I don't understand why players want to be excessive with showboating, knowing they can and probably will get flagged for it.

I know this was posted earlier in the week...