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[volinokc]

I'm trying to remember the infield. IIRC, Horner was playing first, Hubbard at second, Rafael Ramirez at SS, and Chambliss at 3rd.

I listened to that Braves lineup on the radio as a kid. My granddad actually had cable, so I would get to watch the Braves and Cubs when I visited him. We had to work for sports content back in the day. It was our version of walking 3 miles in the snow or whatever.

 

[volinokc]

Good riddance. Hate people lost their jobs but man, what a dump.

I wonder if they ever cleaned up the puke I left behind.

 

[ChattaTNVol]

There are probably an unlimited number of methods to measure strength of schedule so it’s pretty easy if you don’t like one you can probably find one you do like. Strength of schedule even when measured by computers can be subjective, depending on what data is being measured.

I looked at the standard measurements, offensive rushing yards per attempt, offensive passing rating, total offense in yards per play, and scoring offense. I looked at the same data on the defensive side of the ball.

Georgia’s 5 SEC opponents to date have played a total of 24 SEC games including their game against Georgia. We’ve played 4 SEC opponents to date and collectively they have played 20 SEC games including their game against Tennessee.

Georgia’s 5 SEC opponents have won 6 SEC games on the year out of 24; Tennessee’s 4 SEC opponents have won 11 SEC games on the year out of 20.

The table below shows that our SEC opponents are better against SEC competition in all of the statistical measurements cited than Georgia’s SEC opponents in their SEC clashes. From a scoring perspective, offense and defense combined, Tennessee’s SEC opponents are 15.5 points better in conference than Georgia’s SEC opponents, meaning Tennessee's SEC opponents to date would be expected to beat Georgia's SEC opponents to date by an average of 15.5 points per game.

Note: The averages do not include the Georgia and Tennessee numbers, only their SEC opponents.

Note 2: Even with what is arguably a much stronger strength of schedule Tennessee is #1 in conference against SEC opponents in offensive passing rating, offensive total yards per play, scoring offense, and rushing defense yards per attempt. We really are pretty good, overall #1 in the nation I'm told.

 

[Jackcrevol]

I wonder if they ever cleaned up the puke I left behind.

I recall, a joint, it consisted of a screened in porch, with what can best be described as plastic chairs & tables (some where stacked on top of one another). Now, in this day of pussification, building codes, no smoking, just imagine.

There were no cornhole boards, no video game golf, no charging ports for your Motorola V3M. No sir, there was a buffet style bar, with red plastic cups, several kegs, and a cover charge and some trash cans. There was one purpose, a unified goal. And that was to get trashed. Drinking was their business, and, business was good.

 

[Orange.]

 

[Buddy’s Bandit]

Everybody is saying “we are going to find out how good Tennessee is”, I say we are going to find out where Georgia is.

 

[Big Orange#1]

Princeton Fant could easily have Brock Bowers statline if we had to feature him (against terrible competition) as our main threat because we had no playmakers at WR like Georgia. Too bad we have the best Wide receiver corps in America sooo..

 

[Volnukem]

There are probably an unlimited number of methods to measure strength of schedule so it’s pretty easy if you don’t like one you can probably find one you do like. Strength of schedule even when measured by computers can be subjective, depending on what data is being measured.

I looked at the standard measurements, offensive rushing yards per attempt, offensive passing rating, total offense in yards per play, and scoring offense. I looked at the same data on the defensive side of the ball.

Georgia’s 5 SEC opponents to date have played a total of 24 SEC games including their game against Georgia. We’ve played 4 SEC opponents to date and collectively they have played 20 SEC games including their game against Tennessee.

Georgia’s 5 SEC opponents have won 6 SEC games on the year out of 24; Tennessee’s 4 SEC opponents have won 11 SEC games on the year out of 20.

The table below shows that our SEC opponents are better against SEC competition in all of the statistical measurements cited than Georgia’s SEC opponents in their SEC clashes. From a scoring perspective, offense and defense combined, Tennessee’s SEC opponents are 15.5 points better in conference than Georgia’s SEC opponents, meaning Tennessee's SEC opponents to date would be expected to beat Georgia's SEC opponents to date by an average of 15.5 points per game.

Note: The averages do not include the Georgia and Tennessee numbers, only their SEC opponents.

Note 2: Even with what is arguably a much stronger strength of schedule Tennessee is #1 in conference against SEC opponents in offensive passing rating, offensive total yards per play, scoring offense, and rushing defense yards per attempt. We really are pretty good, overall #1 in the nation I'm told.

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Love these. Thanks for doing them. To expand on this, Georgia averages scoring 10.5 ppg more and giving up 7.5 ppg less against their SEC foes than their averages. That’s a differential of 18 ppg. We average scoring 17.2 ppg more and giving up 3.8 ppg less against our SEC opponents, which is a 21 ppg differential.

 

[Rishvol]

My thing is we've beaten the top 2 SEC West teams and the third best SEC East team. We shouldn't have to worry about little ole uga making the team nervous

 

[MockingVol]

Hadn’t really thought about this, but like usual we faced the top two teams from the West this year.

Unlike the usual, we ripped both of their still beating hearts from their chests.

 

[VolsDoc81TX]

Looking at the Georgia game –

ESPN FPI is what it is as are all other computer models. I think there’s some interesting information that comes out of those models but as I’ve said before I think it’s important to have some idea what the inputs are for those models. As best I can tell the input that probably hurts us the most right now in most computer models is the average recruiting ranking. The models favor subjective talent evaluations. Development is captured in on-field performance and that carries more weight than recruiting but recruiting still has some impact, even this far into the season. jmo.

One of ESPN’s outputs is Game Control. They have Tennessee ranked #1; Georgia is ranked #5 and Alabama is ranked #3.

They also rank strength of schedule and strength of record to date. Our SOS up to this point in the season is ranked #19 and our strength of record is ranked #1. Georgia’s strength of schedule to date is ranked #75 and their strength of record is ranked #5. Alabama’s strength of schedule to date is ranked #10 and their strength of record is at #6 (It’s no crime to lose to Tennessee this year).

The only decent win Georgia has on their resume is Oregon, a team playing in their first game with a new staff (virgin head coach) and a new QB. Oregon has rebounded from their shellacking in Atlanta but in looking at their opponents I’m not that impressed. They did beat UCLA and I looked at that game. That was a good win if any win in the PAC12 can be considered good. I think we would be favored over Oregon by multiple scores. jmo.

Statistically, the best defense Georgia has faced so far this year was Missouri. Statistically Alabama, LSU, and Kentucky are all ranked above Missouri in scoring defense (and so is Tennessee).

Since the Oregon game (which I’ve discounted) Georgia’s pass defense hasn’t faced a single passing offense ranked above #83. Other than Oregon and Missouri Georgia hasn’t faced a single run defense ranked better than #80 and that #80 was Vanderbilt.

For the Kentucky game our defense performed as the #1 defense in the country. I think there are at least two, maybe three, reasons for that but it all comes down to, in my opinion, Josh Heupel. All the things he’s been saying week after week after week since the Ball State game that we need to do on defense, especially in the secondary, we did on Saturday night. Doneiko and Brandon, pressed in to action in the absence of Kamal and Christian, confirmed that in their postgame interviews. The big thing Heupel has wanted was tighter coverage in the secondary. Doneiko said he and Brandon were able to play tighter coverage Saturday because they were in cover 2 so they knew they had help over the top. Maybe we were in cover 2 because we had new guys at the corners and were trying to help them. Whatever the reason the secondary play was unlike anything else we’ve seen this year and everything like what Heupel has said we needed to do. I pointed out last week that we were giving up an average of 16 first downs per game via the pass and if we could cut that to 8 we’d be pretty good. Saturday night we only gave up 6 passing first downs.

Statistically we have a better offense than Georgia and we’ve played against better defenses than they have.

According to ESPN’s efficiency ratings we have much much better special teams than Georgia. Those special teams were incredible Saturday night because between them and the defense our offense’s average starting field position was the 44.5 yard line. Kentucky’s average starting field position for their offense was their 20.6 yard line. When our drives start at or better than our 40 yard line we average 5.27 points per drive. When Kentucky’s offensive possessions start at or behind their 20 yard line they average 0.62 points per drive. Those were the number going into the game. If you can visualize the football field on which we played the game it was only about 55.5 yards long and it was on Kentucky’s side of the field. Kentucky’s offense had 12 possessions in the game; they made it into Tennessee territory just 3 times all night.

Georgia has a statistically better defense than we’ve shown for most of the season but it’s all about the secondary and strength of schedule. Their run defense is 4th best in the nation; Tennessee’s is 9th best. Alabama, when we played them was 4th best. Georgia’s pass defense rating is 3rd best in the nation; Alabama’s pass defense rating was 2nd best before they played Tennessee. Josh Heupel’s pass defense in #1 in the nation. jmo.

Given that Georgia’s strength of schedule is seen as #75 in all of FBS I think maybe the only thing not in our favor for this game is the home field advantage but as we saw with LSU even that may not work out for the home team. jmo.

Translation: WGWTFA!!!

En route to

15-0

 

[Dudleys87]

Everybody is saying “we are going to find out how good Tennessee is”, I say we are going to find out where Georgia is.

Absolutely possible.

 

[Dudleys87]

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Could he have another Heisman moment?

We’ll see…

 

[drvenner]

Good morning, VolNation!! I am working remotely today, so it is time to get to work. And, by "get to work," I mean it is time to switch from my phone to my laptop to peruse VN. GBO!!

 

[OGbabyaviVol]

There are probably an unlimited number of methods to measure strength of schedule so it’s pretty easy if you don’t like one you can probably find one you do like. Strength of schedule even when measured by computers can be subjective, depending on what data is being measured.

I looked at the standard measurements, offensive rushing yards per attempt, offensive passing rating, total offense in yards per play, and scoring offense. I looked at the same data on the defensive side of the ball.

Georgia’s 5 SEC opponents to date have played a total of 24 SEC games including their game against Georgia. We’ve played 4 SEC opponents to date and collectively they have played 20 SEC games including their game against Tennessee.

Georgia’s 5 SEC opponents have won 6 SEC games on the year out of 24; Tennessee’s 4 SEC opponents have won 11 SEC games on the year out of 20.

The table below shows that our SEC opponents are better against SEC competition in all of the statistical measurements cited than Georgia’s SEC opponents in their SEC clashes. From a scoring perspective, offense and defense combined, Tennessee’s SEC opponents are 15.5 points better in conference than Georgia’s SEC opponents, meaning Tennessee's SEC opponents to date would be expected to beat Georgia's SEC opponents to date by an average of 15.5 points per game.

Note: The averages do not include the Georgia and Tennessee numbers, only their SEC opponents.

Note 2: Even with what is arguably a much stronger strength of schedule Tennessee is #1 in conference against SEC opponents in offensive passing rating, offensive total yards per play, scoring offense, and rushing defense yards per attempt. We really are pretty good, overall #1 in the nation I'm told.

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In other words, what you’re saying is we are about to open up a can!

 

[Dudleys87]

Another 5 for Hyatt would be just fine with me.

 

[VolsDoc81TX]

Noon for Mizzu sucks. Was hoping for a night game light show again.

Naw dude, daytime beat downs are awesome in that it takes the opponent longer to get to the next day. They have to see their misery.
Plastered all over every sports show with Tennessee’s highlights.
Remember when we used the brunt of all the other teams’ highlight reels? Time for payback!
One of my partners played for mizzou and asked me to be gentle

One week at a time. All focus is on the dawgs now. The future will take care of itself one game week at a time.

15-0

 

[Dudleys87]

Ace in the hole you ask?

Hook can spend unlimited time with Hype and do what needs to be done to have the most success.

Take that with his HC being laid back and loose and id be worried if I were Georgia.

 

[VolsDoc81TX]

I’m torn on early games, I like night games. but we do dominate in noon games

Who are you trying to fool? We dominate all time slots!

 

[Dudleys87]

Naw dude, daytime beat downs are awesome in that it takes the opponent longer to get to the next day. They have to see their misery.
Plastered all over every sports show with Tennessee’s highlights.
Remember when we used the brunt of all the other teams’ highlight reels? Time for payback!
One of my partners played for mizzou and asked me to be gentle

One week at a time. All focus is on the dawgs now. The future will take care of itself one game week at a time.

15-0

Unfortunately every team is going to throw everything at Tennessee including the kitchen sink. The best thing to do is take an early lead and take their will out of it.

 

[InVOLuntary]

trying to drive everyone to Old City. And, understandeably so, its posh. Very nice place. Dont feel like fist fights are going to break out any moment. I may be in minority, I have no regard for the strip.

I just dont understand how kids can afford Market Square.

 

[TurnoverTrashCan]

 

[TurnoverTrashCan]

Good morning, all you lunaTics! One more day.

 

[csprig9]

Still after what we have done, Everyone keeps telling and saying Tennessee hasn’t seen this front seven, Tennessee hasn’t seen and environment like this, Tennessee hasn’t seen a running game like this, etc, etc……

We beat Pitt, got the Florida monkey off our back, went to Baton Rouge and beat the brakes off them, smoked cigars for the first time in 15 years and beat the supposedly top QB and toughest defense we have seen like they were nothing, all while beating the crap out of our lesser opponents

People need to start saying no one has seen a team like Tennessee and after we beat UGA they gonna learn……

 

[drvenner]

Good riddance. Hate people lost their jobs but man, what a dump.

You have some of the weirdest takes. Everyone I know that went to school at UT, including me, has great memories about the Strip.