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[clt_tiger]

A snail can sleep for three years.

Listen here, you’re not @TheRain. We all have our swim lanes.

 

[BigSteve09]

How did I not know Tillman was the son of an NFL player?!?!?!? I depend on y’all to educate me!

Dad Cadric:

Cedric Cornell Tillman[1] is a former professional American football player who played wide receiver for four seasons for the Denver Broncos[2] and Jacksonville Jaguars.[3] He has two sons, Jamir, who played wide receiver at Navy, and Cedric, who plays wide receiver at Tennessee.

Brother Jamir:

The Las Vegas native from Bishop Gorman high school had an outstanding career for the Midshipmen.

Playing largely in three seasons, he ended his career with 1,626 yards and 10 touchdowns, and was an instrumental component in the 2015 and 2016 teams that claimed a share of the West Division in the AAC in 2015 and played in Navy’s only conference championship game since joining the conference in 2016.

He was Navy’s go-to guy on the outside for three straight years, and ended his career second all-time for the Mids in receiving yards and receiving touchdowns.

Insight into his family from a feature on his brother:

Jamir is what some people might refer to as an “old soul.” Wise beyond his years.

“I know I sound like some old guy, and here I am just having turned 22,” he said last week during a phone interview. “But what’s with the young people and all the tech stuff. I can’t go to Toys ‘R’ Us and buy a present for my (two younger) siblings anymore.”

He talked about summers spent as a child at his grandmother’s home in Gulfport. “She ran a recreation center, and all the kids were always playing. Sweating for no reason. Now all they want to do is sit on the couch and play video games.”

He credits his parents, particularly his dad, who was an assistant coach during Jamir’s career at Bishop Gorman High School.

“He was as hard on me in the classroom as he was on the field, and he was never afraid to take sports away if I wasn’t making good grades,” Jamir said. “He didn’t want sports to be my identity.

“He knows football doesn’t make you a great person, a great father.”

Cedric Tillman learned one of his greatest lessons concerning tough love during his recruitment in 1987-88 out of Gulfport High School, where he was a standout in football, basketball and track.

“My junior year, I committed to the University of Alabama in football,” he said. “I went on a few (recruiting) visits my senior year — Florida, Florida State. But my mind was set on Alabama. Coach (Bill) Curry had recruited me hard from the start.”

His mother was an Alcorn alumnus, along with several relatives. She said little about his choice of schools until the night before signing day.

“Son, you’re signing with Alcorn tomorrow,” she informed him.

“Aw, man, I didn’t like that,” he said. “I signed with Alcorn, but I kept calling the Alabama coaches every day.

I reported to Alcorn my freshman year, but I didn’t go to practice the first two weeks. I kept hoping they would get fed up with me and kick me out of school.

“Finally, my mom showed up at my dormitory. She said. ‘You are getting in this car and I’m driving you to practice.’ ”

He laughed as he told the story. “Turned out, I met some of my best friends at Alcorn. Also, my grandparents lived about an hour away, and I would go to their house on Sundays, wash my clothes, go to church with them. I really got to spend a lot of time with them that I wouldn’t have otherwise.

“I’m grateful my mom stepped in and made that decision for me.”

He teamed with Torrance Small , a receiver out of Tampa, Florida, to form the duo dubbed “The Untouchables.” They were fast, had feather-soft hands and talked more than their share of smack. Both played in the NFL — Cedric four years with the Denver Broncos and Jacksonville Jaguars, Small 10 years with the New Orleans Saints and four other teams. A back injury forced Cedric to retire after the 1995 season.

Jamir chose Navy for a couple of reasons: If he did his classwork, he was guaranteed a job after graduation. Plus, Navy offered the opportunity to play against some of the big-name programs that snubbed him such as Ohio State and Notre Dame. (One of his fondest memories is the Midshipmen’s 28-27 victory over Notre Dame on Nov. 5. He led his team in receptions with 4 for 48 yards.)

“Of course I was upset coming out of high school about the recruiting situation,” Jamir said. “But now I wouldn’t have it any other way. Navy developed me into a man. It’s developed a maturity in me off the field that I’ve been able to carry onto the field.”

Said Navy coach Ken Niumatalolo: “He has been a huge asset for us in recruiting because we can show (prospective) receivers his statistics. But forget the football part. When parents bring their children here to look at Navy and they get an opportunity to meet Jamir, they will say, ‘That’s the kind of person I want my child to be around.’ ”

“I didn’t have to go far to find a role model. My dad was always right there." His dad was there Saturday night, too, along with Jamir’s mom and his siblings. They were treating Jamir to a nice supper “and there won’t be much football discussed,” Jamir said. “I already know how it’ll go. My mom will tell me I played a good game. My dad will say ‘Good game, but here’s what you need to work on.’

“But I cherish my time with them. So no matter what, I’m going to enjoy having dinner with my family. This loss hurts but it isn’t the end of the world.”

And then this going into the Draft, if anyone remembers:

Navy football player Jamir Tillman was expecting to be chosen in the NFL draft at some point Saturday.

Discussions with NFL scouts and general managers led Tillman and his agent to believe the talented wide receiver would be selected in the sixth or seventh round.

Calvin Stanberry, a friend and mentor, hosted a draft party for Tillman at his Prince George’s County home Saturday. Tillman’s parents and grandfather flew in from Las Vegas to attend the party while several friends and supporters were also on hand.

Tillman would have told everyone involved not to bother with such an event had he known the Department of Defense was going to rescind a year-old policy that allowed service academy graduates to pursue professional sports immediately after graduation.

Official word of that decision came down Monday when Secretary of Defense Jim Mattis signed an order stating that service academy graduates must now serve a minimum of two years on active duty before getting an opportunity to play in the NFL, Major League Baseball or any other professional sports league.

The announcement dealt an unexpected blow to the likes of Tillman and Air Force wide receiver Jalen Robinette, both of whom were considered likely NFL draft choices beforehand.

“I don’t think this was handled the right way,” Tillman said Tuesday. “They waited until the first day of the NFL draft to tell people they couldn’t pursue this career choice. If the powers that be wanted to change the policy, there was plenty of time to do that well in advance of the draft. Or at least notify those of us that were trying out for the NFL that there was potential for change.”

“I’m extremely honored and excited to serve in the Marine Corps. That’s what I came to the Naval Academy to do,” Tillman said. “However, we were told last year that we would have the opportunity to live out our dream of playing in the NFL if we were good enough to do so. To turn around and change that policy on the day of the draft isn’t right.”

 

[Devo182]

A snail can sleep for three years.

A leopard can carry two times its body weight into a tree.

Tahoe is west of L.A.

The sun is 45 million degrees farenheit

 

[TheRain]

 

[BigSteve09]

Remember when Narduzzi made the dumbest challenge I've ever seen after watching the replay on the jumbotron that clearly showed his DB pushing Bru out of bounds and his response was, "I didn't think he pushed him out of bounds."?

Seriously, how dumb was that? The DB clearly had his hands on Bru, yet Narduzzi somehow thought he'd win that challenge? Straight up moron.

 

[Odiodin]

That can't be healthy. Really thought we had already paid this clown enough to retire nice.

 

[TheRain]

Listen here, you’re not @TheRain. We all have our swim lanes.

Mine is more of a paddle pool.

 

[Cosmo Kramer]

Jimbo about to go 7-5 with the best recruiting class or he might end up 6-6 and he could get himself Scott Frosted

I’m certainly not defending Jimbo but that class is a bunch of True Freshman.

 

[Weezer]

Listen here, you’re not @TheRain. We all have our swim lanes.

But did you know that? If not, I told you something you didn't know.

 

[Vol464]

I’m certainly not defending Jimbo but that class is a bunch of True Freshman.

But he has averaged 7th ranked class last few years. App state averaged around 90? 54-1 in 4-5 stars? Shouldn’t be close.

 

[swchandler1988]

I’m certainly not defending Jimbo but that class is a bunch of True Freshman.

2018: 17th
2019: 5th
2020: 6th
2021: 9th
2022: 1st

I don’t expect the freshman to do much but dang. They are stacked, especially their upperclassmen

 

[Aesius]

WTF is he doing there? What a clown.

 

[LadyVolette]

I love hippies that don't try to shove their weirdness down your throat.

Agreed.. I like the Earth mama vegans who let their kids act bad and don’t wear deodorant if they don’t expect me to do that also it’s fine for them, just don’t make everyone else do it lol .. unless they want me telling them to get makeup and a Kate Spade purse.. we could just all enjoy our differences lol

 

[Vols2DaWall]

Anger issues

 

[drvenner]

Ohh new words..lol


I am indubitably an incorrigible curmudgeon

Indubitably

 

[Cosmo Kramer]

Not worried about AR, we will more than likely injure him, who’s the backup? Lol.

A Walk on

 

[drvenner]

Hey, look, I went to school in Boulder. There are some kind hippies. Some good folks. They're weird, but they aren't all bad.

Groovy

 

[Vols2DaWall]

@VolsDoc81TX , if I remember correctly you're an ortho surgeon (spine?). Is that correct?

IIRC I think he said he did PM&R but probably works extensively with ortho and spine surgeons

 

[drvenner]

OMG...I am like the biggest redneck country boy you would ever meet..when you look up "opposite of yuppie" there is a picture of me..

Is the lovechild of a yuppie and a hippie called a Yippee?

 

[Cosmo Kramer]

Danny White better not pay that chump’s program one red cent to come to Neyland.

 

[engineerVOL]

@VolsDoc81TX , if I remember correctly you're an ortho surgeon (spine?). Is that correct?

Primarily gender reassignment surgery.

 

[Cosmo Kramer]

Thank y’all. Sounding like it’ll be Cookeville. I’ll start doing a little research tomorrow. Never stayed there. Just drove through.

Eat at Applebees and stay at the Super 8

 

[clt_tiger]

But did you know that? If not, I told you something you didn't know.

Jk. Goodnight moran. See you tomorrow.

 

[Weezer]

A leopard can carry two times its body weight into a tree.

Tahoe is west of L.A.

The sun is 45 million degrees farenheit

All polar bears are left-handed.

It is physically impossible for pigs to look up into the sky.

The strongest muscle in the body is the tongue.

 

[engineerVOL]

That man has got to have a ton of hemorrhoids.