Gun control debate (merged)

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McDad said:
This seems contradictory.
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InVOLuntary said:
No, the point I'm making is that laws only affect people that obey laws. You're just to dense to comprehend it.
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luthervol said:
That's not true. And even to the small degree that it is true, that in no way invalidates the benefits of the law.
I'm pretty sure that I, and most everyone else drives 50mph or less on the 6 lane highway that I live off of simply because it is the law and it is heavily enforced. And everyone benefits from that.
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Yea, that wasn't very well worded.
The statement that laws only effect people who obey laws is not true.

Had he said laws mostly effect people who obey laws, I would have agreed.
Only - not true
Mostly - true
That was the small degree of truth I gave him.
 
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kiddiedoc said:
Are you really this ignorant?
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In Chicago, for instance, gun homicides in 2019 and 2020 were concentrated in neighborhoods far from the city center that have long suffered from severe disinvestment as a result of white flight, and are now centers of concentrated poverty with predominantly Black residents.
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From a quick Google search.
 
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I practice in a relatively rural community near Knoxville. I talk guns all the time when dads bring their kids for visits (and some cool moms). I take care of the majority of LEOs and military families. I bet my families own 50,000 firearms.

Guess what? Literally zero gun violence, save one suicide in 18 years.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
Lol, you're beyond help. It's 100% true. Liberals are incapable of logic. I've always wondered why they're so inept at logical thinking. I've come to the conclusion that somewhere along the way when they couldn't reconcile their arguments, they just said to themselves "ef it!, it doesn't have to make sense."
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The left sees things as “how they should be” and of course that’s according to their own wishes.
Everyone else sees things as how they are.

Take this issue for example. The left thinks making it harder for law abiding citizens to get guns will somehow reduce gun violence. While everyone else knows that will just emboldened criminal behavior. Violence doesn’t decrease where gun control is enacted. It just changed the method of attack but very little changes in the actual rate. However government tyrannical behavior always goes up in those places
 
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bnhunt said:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...econd-amendment-really-meant-to-the-founders/
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Yes. Nothing like the perspective of the assistant professor of history at the Chinese University of Hong Kong on the 2nd Amendment to sway me...
joevol33 said:
I'm going to need video evidence that the majority of people in any metro Atlanta area obey the speed limit 🤣. I've been all over, and rarely have I seen anyone not speeding 🤣
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Now, now. Luther may have a point. When I go through Atlanta, I am amazed at all the law abiding Luthers managing to drive stop/start on six lane interstates, occasionally reaching speeds of up to 30 mph.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
The left sees things as “how they should be” and of course that’s according to their own wishes.
Everyone else sees things as how they are.

Take this issue for example. The left thinks making it harder for law abiding citizens to get guns will somehow reduce gun violence. While everyone else knows that will just emboldened criminal behavior. Violence doesn’t decrease where gun control is enacted. It just changed the method of attack but very little changes in the actual rate. However government tyrannical behavior always goes up in those places
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The left sees things as how they are compared to how it should be.
The right sees things as how they are compared to how it use to be.
 
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luthervol said:
The left sees things as how they are compared to how it should be.
The right sees things as how they are compared to how it use to be.
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The right sees things, such as a son playing with mama’s lipstick tube while joking he’s a girl like mommy, and thinks “Silly boy! What are doing? Put mommy’s lipstick down.”

The left sees the same thing happening and thinks “Oh, our little Jack is actually a Jill! We should cut off his penis, buy him new clothes, and force the rest of society to buy-in to our ridiculousness!” Then the Democrat ran executive branch comes along and tells all parents they should do the same!

Recap, the left sees things as they are, and figures out a way to completely F it all up!
 
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