War in Ukraine

[DonjoVol]

QUESTION: Did Ukraine kill its own civilians in Donbas?

GOOGLE RESPONSE:

Did Ukraine kill 14,000 pro-Russians and civilians in Donbass?

"The answer to this question is No. 14,000 is the number of the total victims of the war in Donbass on both sides.

There are several myths used by Russia and its fellow travellers to justify the invasion of Ukraine. One is that a “genocide” was happening in Donbass, where Ukrainians killed “14,000” pro-Russian separatists and civilians since 2014.

This is just another myth, as are others we debunked in a previous Bitter Winter series. Many who repeat this story have only a vague idea of what “Donbass” means. “Donbass” (also spelled Donbas) is not a legal but a cultural and historical expression. The name was coined in the 19th century as an acronym for “DONetsk BASin,” an area in the east of Ukraine renowned for its coal mines. The coal boom of the same 19th century led to the immigration of thousands of Russian-speaking workers from present-day Russia into what was originally a predominantly Ukrainian-speaking area."

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Waiting on your link.

Am I going to have to put you in the same category with your buddy Septic when it comes to lack of reading comprehension skills? I already said links have been posted. It's not my fault you have this religious devotion to mainstream news and anything that speaks favorably of your beloved Kiev. Which causes you to refuse to read anything that proves you wrong or gives you a perspective of the other side. Once you get past your brainwashing let us know.

 

[DonjoVol]

Lol..So all of them?

I'm Russian, comrade. I know exactly what their culture is like.

It's funny you say you're Russian but you have failed to tell us about any of the other ethnic groups that live in Russia, have a very poor knowledge of the history of the country, and refuse to correct your fellow Kiev propagandists on any false information they share. Which happens to be a lot by the way.

 

[DonjoVol]

I hate social, but Ukraine are friends of the us and will give many lives defending of russia. Should we not do the same? That is the fear. Do not fear death. It comes any way. good will beat evil. no body wants to die, we fear dying for the wrong thing.

What?

 

[DonjoVol]

To be fair to Donjo he can only post what he is authorized to post out of his playbook. Hence the same old tired tactics and schoolyard rebuttals that only work in a society with rampant fetal alcohol syndrome or cultures with sub middle school educations.

Lol. Same old tired tactics and schoolyard rebuttals? Take a look in the mirror troll.

 

[NorthDallas40]

It's funny you say you're Russian but you have failed to tell us about any of the other ethnic groups that live in Russia, have a very poor knowledge of the history of the country, and refuse to correct your fellow Kiev propagandists on any false information they share. Which happens to be a lot by the way.

At least you’re finally correctly calling them ethnic groups and not races Curly. Good boy here’s a biscuit.

 

[MontyPython]

Am I going to have to put you in the same category with your buddy Septic when it comes to lack of reading comprehension skills? I already said links have been posted. It's not my fault you have this religious devotion to mainstream news and anything that speaks favorably of your beloved Kiev. Which causes you to refuse to read anything that proves you wrong or gives you a perspective of the other side. Once you get past your brainwashing let us know.

So what you're saying is you have no link.

Roger.

You lose Comrade.

 

[FLVOL_79]

It's funny you say you're Russian but you have failed to tell us about any of the other ethnic groups that live in Russia, have a very poor knowledge of the history of the country, and refuse to correct your fellow Kiev propagandists on any false information they share. Which happens to be a lot by the way.

I am Russian..but I am American as well. Being American > Russian. That's why I don't entertain your Soviet talking points.

I will sit back and watch you make a fool of yourself with your blatantly obvious Soviet inspired/supplied talking points.

 

[IluvdoubleD's]

Russia will not defend it's self against every nation on earth. That is really the end of it. They can do a lot of damage tho, and nobody want's that.

 

[FLVOL_79]

Lol. Same old tired tactics and schoolyard rebuttals? Take a look in the mirror troll.

 

[norrislakevol]

I generally just check this thread to watch @NorthDallas40 deal out the Larry, Curly, Moe, and Shemp names. This has been a highly entertaining thread, and a very interesting one to see different people set up on their hill to die on.

 

[LSU-SIU]

Russia will not defend it's self against every nation on earth.

Most nations don't really give a crap. And yes, I think Russia would send some warm presents to whoever wants to dance.

That is really the end of it. They can do a lot of damage tho, and nobody want's that.

Yes, like destroy the whole planet.

Maybe stick to whatever it is you do best in life, maybe go to the strip club and luv those double Ds.

 

[IluvdoubleD's]

Most nations don't really give a crap

many nations siding with russia. Most do not want to. There are about half the nations that will not get involved until they have to. America is stopping that.

 

[LSU-SIU]

many nations siding with russia. Most do not want to. There are about half the nations that will not get involved until they have to. America is stopping that.

I would say the vast majority of the planet either doesn't give a crap or would be against the United States in just about any action, see the last 25 years of nonsense the United States has been involved with.

None of this is really the business of the United States is it?

The United States doesn't give a crap if every single one of those stupid Ukrainians die. I mean if people want to commit suicide.... go for it.

 

[NorthDallas40]

I generally just check this thread to watch @NorthDallas40 deal out the Larry, Curly, Moe, and Shemp names. This has been a highly entertaining thread, and a very interesting one to see different people set up on their hill to die on.

I know I’m having fun. And I’ll be the first to admit that on Feb 24 I would have never imagined we’d still be talking smack and mocking the utter incompetence of the Russians almost 200 days later

 

[norrislakevol]

I know I’m having fun. And I’ll be the first to admit that on Feb 24 I would have never imagined we’d still be talking smack and mocking the utter incompetence of the Russians almost 200 days later

Very true.

 

[LSU-SIU]

It's funny you say you're Russian but you have failed to tell us about any of the other ethnic groups that live in Russia, have a very poor knowledge of the history of the country, and refuse to correct your fellow Kiev propagandists on any false information they share. Which happens to be a lot by the way.

I'm American and my ancestors came from various parts of Europe. Which obviously means I speak for everyone involved.

I'm from Earth, which obviously means I speak for everyone involved.

 

[LSU-SIU]

What?

Just give that guy a break, probably posting from a strip club. Maybe a few lap dances will help his thinking process and he will figure out how the Russians defend all that territory with left over equipment from the Korean War.

I say we get a fund together and send him to the Ukraine to see some action. Grand Prize: First human to feel 100m+ C temperatures since 1945.

 

[FLVOL_79]

I know I’m having fun. And I’ll be the first to admit that on Feb 24 I would have never imagined we’d still be talking smack and mocking the utter incompetence of the Russians almost 200 days later

I'm still pretty surprised that they infiltrated Volnation. I guess thats what happens when a phishing scam works better than expected and you get to grab up some dormant accounts on a site with decent American traffic.

 

[LSU-SIU]

I'm still pretty surprised that they infiltrated Volnation. I guess thats what happens when a phishing scam works better than expected and you get to grab up some dormant accounts on a site with decent American traffic.

Or they let an insane asylum access to computers again.

 

[DonjoVol]

I'm American and my ancestors came from various parts of Europe. Which obviously means I speak for everyone involved.

I'm from Earth, which obviously means I speak for everyone involved.

Yeah I like calling FL Vol's nonsense. Says he's from Russia but I doubt he could point out Vladivostok on a map.

 

[FLVOL_79]

Or they let an insane asylum access to computers again.

 

[FLVOL_79]

Yeah I like calling FL Vol's nonsense. Says he's from Russia but I doubt he could point out Vladivostok on a map.

Yet..I am sure you could almost instantly..............

 

[NorthDallas40]

I'm still pretty surprised that they infiltrated Volnation. I guess thats what happens when a phishing scam works better than expected and you get to grab up some dormant accounts on a site with decent American traffic.

Eh we’re a pretty eclectic group and they give us a lot of latitude in this particular forum which is fun honestly. Having grown up in rural East TN I am not surprised at all that we’ve got a few malleable smooth brains that bought into Pootin’s stupidity either.

 

[LSU-SIU]

If you say so.

 

[LSU-SIU]

Russia Reportedly Set to Expand Nuclear Arsenal, Underground Bunkers
(Popular Mechanic 2017)

Interesting article on Russia's expansion of its nuclear capabilities in the low yield range.

Russia is reportedly researching a new generation of tactical nuclear weapons in the kiloton (equivalent to 1,000 tons of TNT) to 10 ton range. Some of these weapons would be “clean”, that is releasing relatively little radiation. Others, so-called “neutron bombs,” are the exact opposite, with very little blast effect but releasing a lot of radiation to kill enemy troops protected in bunkers and armored vehicles. The Free Beacon also mentions nukes that release an electromagnetic pulse (EMP), and weapons that release large amounts of x-ray and gamma ray radiation.
Experts differ widely on how many tactical nuclear weapons Russia currently has. The Soviet Union reportedly had more than 20,000 weapons during the Cold War, but most were dismantled as they grew obsolete. Nuclear weapons are also expensive to maintain and Russia had little money to maintain them after the breakup of the USSR. The Free Beacon states that Russia has between 3,300 and 10,000 tactical nuclear weapons. The Federation of American Scientists, however, puts the number at 2,000.

A third, more frightening possibility is that Russia may be preparing to change the way it uses nukes. A ten-ton-yield nuclear weapon, precisely delivered on the battlefield, is much more useful than a megaton-sized weapon that annihilates cities. Russia could look to blend conventional tactical warfare and tactical nuclear weapons with yields and radiation releases so small they would confer a significant battlefield advantage while placing Russia’s enemy on the horns of a dilemma: Let it go or respond with nuclear weapons of its own.

I don't see why the Russians would need to blend because the other side doesn't have them.