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[SugarCC]

Dolly and Tina.

On this, UTP...very much agreed.

 

[UTProf]

Tonight, i have found myself in conversations about the Stones being "garbage", The Beatles making "experimental crap", and "Elvis was not a rock n roll star...he was Frank Sinatra". It's my fault...I'm slipping, especially...

...here. I know why you do it, Prof, think the way you do about Elvis...anyone who pays attention knows. Ill end with this, Elvis was more Mississippi Delta than Brown ever was; more so than many others, also. James Brown grew up singing and playing and dancing to the music that he loved and was surrounded by, and he died doing it, too...so did Elvis. Rock n roll wasn't born the day Elvis walked into Sun, not at all; however, it WAS the day that he introduced rock n roll to the world. And, he was as good as ANYONE at doing it.

Wait wat? I never said any of that.

 

[Paper_Towel]

 

[Orange.]

 

[Orangeburst]

It's literally less than a month until football season. If you want to talk about the Almond Brothers or who ever the heck they are take that crap elsewhere

 

[Volsdeep4]

Thanks a lot morans. I had a nightmare about staying at a beautiful house in Alaska and it was infested with copperheads! Everywhere couches, under bed sheets, just started attacking a buddy and no one could here me tell him to get the f up. Oh well..

 

[OGbabyaviVol]

 

[RikidyBones]

Finally after a long day at work and then church, I get to sit down to catch up, and there’s so many pages! Imagine my disappointment when y’all are arguing musical taste…again. LOL I remember my college music professor saying after he went over how the Beatles grew in 10 years what it took classical hundreds of years, and they led the way for many others that came after them, that there were always those that had to make themselves superior to whatever was popular and find ways to put it down. He said we like what we like, and we can also study and appreciate what is excellent without having to mix the two. So someone can have an amazing voice that people love to hear sing because it touches them even if that voice barely goes over an octave. And you can appreciate a singer that hits 4 octaves flawlessly without ever wanting to play a song of theirs again. Y’all brought that back to my memory from 1984!!! Music! “Rocky Top” is the best!

And not a single post about Taylor Swift.

 

[Rishvol]

I woke up and the question for VN is

 

[Devo182]

Which of these people we have talked about tonight is NOT a creep?

Thom Yorke.

Edit: Oh wait he did admit he was a creep

 

[Devo182]

Finally after a long day at work and then church, I get to sit down to catch up, and there’s so many pages! Imagine my disappointment when y’all are arguing musical taste…again. LOL I remember my college music professor saying after he went over how the Beatles grew in 10 years what it took classical hundreds of years, and they led the way for many others that came after them, that there were always those that had to make themselves superior to whatever was popular and find ways to put it down. He said we like what we like, and we can also study and appreciate what is excellent without having to mix the two. So someone can have an amazing voice that people love to hear sing because it touches them even if that voice barely goes over an octave. And you can appreciate a singer that hits 4 octaves flawlessly without ever wanting to play a song of theirs again. Y’all brought that back to my memory from 1984!!! Music! “Rocky Top” is the best!

100%

It is about appreciation of all the greats, the rest is opinion. Always say...there's no such thing as guilty pleasures in music...like what you like. Don't be a hipster and act like your only enjoyment is from the critically acclaimed bin...we all know you like that one Journey song deep down mr hipster man...

'Cept for Nickelback. They still stink.



Now if folks could just appreciate various sports greats and their immense talents the same way, rather than making it personal or whatever every time there's that one discussion.

 

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[Devo182]

I know what the rock n rollers and experts say, but the vast majority of everyday rock n roll fans I know wonder why everyone thinks the Beatles are so great. Personally, I think they truly are among the greats, and I think they deserve a lot of credit as groundbreakers and originalists. However, their early stuff doesn’t seem like much more than bubble gum pop to me, and I can think of as many as 10 other rock acts - including Led Zeppelin - that I would choose to listen to over them.

Jmo but it is the lack of knowledge/care to look further, which is fine...whatever. But if one has never personally delved into them and only saw the videos of the british invasion/girls screaming at them and heard a few songs...I can get why the misunderstanding.

Then you do the research and realize all that is reality and that's when appreciation goes full blown and beyond.

Watching The Yellow Submarine from an altered mental state helps quicken the appreciation process too

 

[drvenner]

I got this. Chuck Berry is the true King of Rock and Roll and also substantially more of a creep than Elvis. That being said Elvis was still a creep.

Jerry Lee Lewis says hold my beer

 

[gainesvol82]

He sounded great at Bonnaroo. And Stevie Nicks even better. Better than ever.

Really really wish I could catch Roger Waters touring right now. Word is it is spectacular.

I can't see, hear or even think about Stevie Nick's without thinking of the South Park goat episode. She has a unique voice but I've never been a big fan. Her music is just kind of boring to me.

 

[gainesvol82]

Saw Dew Bee Brothers, in mid 80's. Then Mars She'll Tuckher at Grandfather Mtn back in the day. Not sure if Blues Traveller and Lenny Kravitz count, but Horde Festival was stout.

Blues Traveler is one of the most underrated bands of the 90s. And then you had all the weird death rumors about the lead singer. I can't remember his name, John Popper or something.

 

[gainesvol82]

Elvis is the most versatile vocalist I've ever heard, and I'm sick of the "derivative"

Elvis did what he loved and he grew up in that culture..the music he loved influenced him...big f'n deal.

I've never understood the criticism of Elvis. I agree that his fame and the lack of others getting attention is a fair criticism of our culture at the time but it doesn't change how great Elvis was and it's not like American culture was his fault.

 

[gainesvol82]

Wait wat? I never said any of that.

 

[volbeast33]

That’s different than what every shoulder and elbow specialist shows. Little league shoulder and elbow comes from too many pitches affecting growth plates. Torque from pitching is more with curves…

Kinetic comparison among the fastball, curveball, change-up, and slider in collegiate baseball pitchers - PubMed

Here is one study on biomechanics…. I have not seen any research that supports curveballs being worse than fastballs but I am very open minded to data.

 

[gainesvol82]

Jmo but it is the lack of knowledge/care to look further, which is fine...whatever. But if one has never personally delved into them and only saw the videos of the british invasion/girls screaming at them and heard a few songs...I can get why the misunderstanding.

Then you do the research and realize all that is reality and that's when appreciation goes full blown and beyond.

Watching The Yellow Submarine from an altered mental state helps quicken the appreciation process too

An altered mental state makes you appreciate all good music more. And I do appreciate Beatles and Stones and love certain songs. Just for my taste they are both vastly overrated because they started 3-4 years before most of the other greats. Their musical catalogs are full of stuff that just doesn't sound good to me.

I can't say the same about The Doors, Jimi, Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, CCR, Floyd, Jethro Tull, etc. And the Beatles music is mostly very simple and one note except for their stuff that was most definitely influenced by psychedelics and what others were doing at the time. I'd probably like the Stones better if Mick Jagger wasn't there lead singer and if I enjoyed much of any of their songs post 1969.

But everyone's tastes they're different and just because I like those bands better than others doesn't make me right.

That said, and IMO, Led Zeppelin and Black Sabbath are the two true innovative giants of Rock and influenced most of the bands I like that came after. And they were both heavily influenced by Blues greats.

 

[volbeast33]

How old is your son?
Overuse is what wrecks their arms. Not following strict pitching limits…even worse is poor mechanics. Regardless of the pitch type , high repetition of poor mechanics is the main culprit.
Most Tommy John surgery pitchers will tell you that in order to return to pitching, they were essentially forced to learn proper mechanics to be successful. Look at Ben Joyce’s mechanics now. Pretty dang good. If you compare it to pre-surgery, then I would bet it’s significantly different.
I read parts of the article, the author throws anecdotal evidence in next to the scientific articles that he quotes…Dr. James Andrews perfected the Tommy John surgery and what I posted above is pretty much verbatim from him. Poor mechanics plus excessive pitching results in injury and damage to these young pitchers.

Here is my son…. He is 11… I do agree that overuse is an issue and mechanics are very important.

 

[drvenner]

I thought this shot was kinda cool.

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Kinda? Very cool, iyam.

 

[drvenner]

Thanks a lot morans. I had a nightmare about staying at a beautiful house in Alaska and it was infested with copperheads! Everywhere couches, under bed sheets, just started attacking a buddy and no one could here me tell him to get the f up. Oh well..

 

[drvenner]

Blues Traveler is one of the most underrated bands of the 90s. And then you had all the weird death rumors about the lead singer. I can't remember his name, John Popper or something.

I saw them at the Bijou in the early 1990s. Fantastic show.

 

[drvenner]

By the way, the Bijou is a fantastic venue for a show, IMO. Seeing the Cowboy Junkies there, again in the early 1990s is one of my very favorite shows.