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Pretty excited about this team so far. No team has zero holes. But linebacker (page being third is terrifying) and some injuries to O line could really hurt us. I want a ten win season so bad I can taste it. Tired of seeing the 2007 star every year.

I keep trying to put this in the context of our past few coaches. Right now, Heupel seems to be ahead of all them. This feels more like 2015 than 2014, and much better than any of the Dooley or Pruitt years.

I wouldn’t put a 10-win expectation on these guys, especially with the schedule. But 8-4 seems achievable, and it’s possible we win more.
 
A closer look at our 2022 talent on paper –

There are 4 public services providing evaluation ratings, ESPN, Rivals, 247 Sports, and On3. On3 provides recruit ratings but in some cases they also provide ratings for players. For example, On3’s college ratings identifies Hendon Hooker, Cedric Tillman, and Byron Young as elite (>95). I looked at our roster using all of the services noted. We get a lot of love from all of them just not always in regards to the same player (composite). This is what I came up with, not including specialists and walk-ons. jmo.

On offense this year 81.82% (9/11) of our projected starters were rated blue chips by one or more of the public services and 45.45% (5/11) would be rated at what I would call elite. 67.57% (25/37) of our entire offensive roster was rated as blue chips by one or more of the public services. 35.14% (13/37) of all our offensive players were considered elite by one or more of the services. jmo.

On defense, again for our projected starters, 81.82% (9/11) were rated as blue chips by one or more service and 54.55% (6/11) were rated as elite. 60.00% (24/40) of all the guys we have on our defensive roster this year were rated as blue chips by one or more of the services. 27.50% (11/40) of all our defensive players were considered elite by one or more of the services. jmo.

Under this analysis our blue chip ratio for the 77 offensive and defensive players on our roster this year would be 63.64% and the total number of elite players on our roster would be 24. There have been at least 10 of our players named to preseason all-sec teams and at least 12 named to award watch lists (including specialists). The number of future NFL draft prospects on our roster could be in the 30’s range or higher. jmo.

Granted, I’m looking at these talent ratings on a selective basis but if one believed there was politics and perception involved in the ratings I think it could be argued we may need to win more on the field in order for the guys we recruit to get more composite love. jmo.

One last note – 23 of the 37 offensive players (62.16%) are redshirt sophomores or older, meaning this will be at least the 3rd year of their college careers. On defense 26 of the 40 players (65.00%) are redshirt sophomores or older. All total 49 of the 77 players (63.64%) on both sides of the ball are 3rd years or older. We have a lot of talent and a lot of experience, at least on paper, going into this year. jmo.

The culture is established. We have development and we have schemes. We have strong and widespread leadership. The buy-in is at a level we haven’t seen in a while. It seems everyone has an ownership stake in this team. The players all have worked extremely hard this offseason. For example, it’s been reported multiple times that our receivers were individually catching 10,000 jugs PER MONTH this summer. Their goal as a unit was 3,000 jugs per man per month. Tillman said he’d go into the facility at 10 o’clock at night and Hyatt and Calloway would be in there catching jugs.

Every position group has invested more time and effort this offseason than perhaps at any other time in their careers. Heupel and his staff are preaching to the players that they have to expect to win when they take the field this year. Caesar’s sports-book in June set our over/under for wins this year at 7.5. There has been a mad rush of money bet on the over. As of today you’ll have to bet 160 to win 100 on the over. It's almost go time. #GBO. jmo.
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I keep trying to put this in the context of our past few coaches. Right now, Heupel seems to be ahead of all them. This feels more like 2015 than 2014, and much better than any of the Dooley or Pruitt years.I wouldn’t put a 10-win expectation on these guys, especially with the schedule. But 8-4 seems achievable, and it’s possible we win more.



I didn’t mean to come across as I believe we will win ten games. I think we will finish 8-4, that is my guess. I was more meaning that I would kill for a ten win season as it has been so long and I’m tired of seeing the 2007 stat about the last time we won ten.
 
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Turned on College Football Live and they were talking UT. They went on to harp on the defense and how they can’t just “outshoot teams”. Then they went on to call Hendon Hooker, Herndon Hooker.

The next segment they went on to praise UF as a dark horse and they will be “way better than people expect.”

Turned that **** off real quick. Garbage.
 
Turned on College Football Live and they were talking UT. They went on to harp on the defense and how they can’t just “outshoot teams”. Then they went on to call Hendon Hooker, Herndon Hooker.

The next segment they went on to praise UF as a dark horse and they will be “way better than people expect.”

Turned that **** off real quick. Garbage.
That’s why I don’t watch anything but the actual games lol
 
Turned on College Football Live and they were talking UT. They went on to harp on the defense and how they can’t just “outshoot teams”. Then they went on to call Hendon Hooker, Herndon Hooker.

The next segment they went on to praise UF as a dark horse and they will be “way better than people expect.”

Turned that **** off real quick. Garbage.

I know every fanbase feels like they are slighted in the media, but I really believe it is legitimate with us. There is some sort of hate there and I don't get it.
 
I know every fanbase feels like they are slighted in the media, but I really believe it is legitimate with us. There is some sort of hate there and I don't get it.
Traces back to fan reaction when ESPN decided to lead the charge to get a defensive player the Heisman and rob Peyton.
 
That game still stands as the greatest comeback ever by any team at South Bend. It's weird to use that last second ND FG attempt instead of Aaron Hayden scoring the winning touchdown on the screen pass.
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I remember Bill Walsh on the call and first half he said ND looked like an NFC team and UT looked like an AFC team..
 
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