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BreatheUT said:
There are some stories that are so gruesome that a person is in horror reading about it. The events that unfolded in that case are haunting and some of the worst that can be imagined. I read every detail available years ago and I was convinced multiple people deserved the death penalty.
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I dated a girl whos Dad was a safety inspector for CSX. He was the one who discovered parts of Newsoms body at the rail yard in Knoxville. Still think it haunts him to this day.
 
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BreatheUT said:
I don't think it was the intentions for their to be a misuse of government. That is why there are as many levers in place to prevent conviction unless it's beyond a reasonable doubt and even then there is an appeals process.
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Of course it wasn’t meant to be misused. But it has been. Since the 70s there have been over 150 people exonerated from death row. If that doesn’t seem like a lot,imagine if it were one of your family members? Clinton was caught on tape, talking about the negative impact it would have on his presidential campaign if he commuted the sentence of a man who had an IQ of 78. He of course denied the appeal and they fried the gentleman. It’s disgusting.
 
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volfanhill said:
we executed innocent people. Hard stop. The state has zero ground to kill people. It's actors have proven to lie, manipulate, and flat out be corrupt for convictions. They have lost any right to kill its civilians.
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Those that I mentioned were not innocent. And as I mentioned earlier, those slam dunk cases are where I stand.
 
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OrangeTsar said:
Their hearts and motivation are in the right place. They see pain and suffering in the world and truly wish to remedy that. Unfortunately they make the mistake of thinking that Government is somehow capable of creating a paradise if only a few more laws are passed. Conservatives recognize that mankind is a fallen creature and that government can function best by allowing maximum individual Liberty in which self interest at least can be used as a tool for good (see Adam Smith). Liberals pretend that government is somehow above self interest and corruption. They believe mankind is capable of perfection and that by replacing selfish moneyed capitalists with mythical selfless government bureaucrats they can right every wrong. It is a pipe dream, doomed to failure and disillusionment wherever it is taken to its logical conclusion in extreme socialism.
The world is a sad and brutal place. But politicians are sad and broken people just like capitalist fat cats or selfish conservatives. Mankind does not have a political problem. Mankind does not have an economic problem. Mankind has a sin problem and the best thing government can do is put up guardrails in the form of civil society and give us maximum individual Liberty to seek our own personal salvation and redemption
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Amen. Beautifully said.
 
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Grand Vol said:
I'm always a bit suspect of the JP...

Having said that to say this. I'm really not sure our media won't spin this is the opposite direction either.
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They were ten years away . At least that is what the media was reporting just a few years ago. I always wondered if Kim Jun Un was selling his test mountain for other regimes to test weapons . Tin foil hat moment.
 
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rekinhavoc said:
They were ten years away . At least that is what the media was reporting just a few years ago. I always wondered if Kim Jun Un was selling his test mountain for other regimes to test weapons . Tin foil hat moment.
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I wouldn't doubt for an instant if it was accurate. But it's more to the point there are almost no media outlets worth trusting these days.
 
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BreatheUT said:
I didn't say it's the basis of our government.
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Hmmm ....
"our government are based"
It's not based on the Bible as much as it is many other actual historical setups
BreatheUT said:
However freedom and liberty are rights given by God.
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Which God? Whose God? Do people who don't believe in that particular God still get to participate in the freedom and liberty?
 
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BreatheUT said:
There are some stories that are so gruesome that a person is in horror reading about it. The events that unfolded in that case are haunting and some of the worst that can be imagined. I read every detail available years ago and I was convinced multiple people deserved the death penalty.
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That story is Helter Skelter level evil. Eric Boyd - Charles Manson only without the high profile victims. I'd be all for bringing back burning at the stake or even crucifixion for those 'people'.
 
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utvolpj said:
Hmmm ....
"our government are based"
It's not based on the Bible as much as it is many other actual historical setups

Which God? Whose God? Do people who don't believe in that particular God still get to participate in the freedom and liberty?
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Not a pagan or Greek God.
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
That story is Helter Skelter level evil. Eric Boyd - Charles Manson only without the high profile victims. I'd be all for bringing back burning at the stake or even crucifixion for those 'people'.
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What is more bothersome is these people come from out of town, settle into the community and reek havoc turning it into the crap holes they left behind.
 
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Weezer said:
I cannot like this post because I support the death penalty for child molesters.
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I support it for thugs who rob fast food joints and convenience stores killing teenagers and others trying to make a living in such risky environments.
 
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