Roe vs Wade Overturned

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Forever151 said:
What are your thoughts on possibly banning contraceptions ? Because that’s one the next thing they are coming for
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I highly doubt any serious effort will be made to ban contraceptives in any state. That legislature would be voted out so fast it would make their head spin. I would also be trying to vote them out if TN did that.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
So….the left no longer a fan of Democracy and letting states decide for themselves?
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I think this gets back to the old argument of decentralized v. centralized government. I think local and state governments are best suited to handle most things, but I also think there are some things the Feds should be involved with.

I tend to be of the opinion that if you don't want to smoke weed, don't. You think abortion is a moral sin, don't have one. You think women shouldn't be allowed to use contraception, don't use it. You think gay marriage is wrong, don't have one. You don't like guns, don't buy one.

The problem is the states that will not take this stance. In situations like that, when a state is going to discriminate against a group of people and forcibly remove their rights, essentially making them second-class citizens, then I think the Fed needs to step in and ensure equal protection and rights.

This ruling will have a lot of side effects in the next 5-10 years that no one has thought of yet. And I don't think they will be good ones.
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
Again only a matter of time. I'm sure some southern states will ban abortion altogether.
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So you’re concerned about a hypothetical that has yet to occur and believe it’s some trump card for the other sides position?

Seems logical
 
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hog88 said:
I highly doubt any serious effort will be made to ban contraceptives in any state. That legislature would be voted out so fast it would make their head spin. I would also be trying to vote them out if TN did that.
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And Zep thinks we are becoming a theocracy. So much fear mongering
 
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zeppelin128 said:
I think this gets back to the old argument of decentralized v. centralized government. I think local and state governments are best suited to handle most things, but I also think there are some things the Feds should be involved with.

I tend to be of the opinion that if you don't want to smoke weed, don't. You think abortion is a moral sin, don't have one. You think women shouldn't be allowed to use contraception, don't use it. You think gay marriage is wrong, don't have one. You don't like guns, don't buy one.

The problem is the states that will not take this stance. In situations like that, when a state is going to discriminate against a group of people and forcibly remove their rights, essentially making them second-class citizens, then I think the Fed needs to step in and ensure equal protection and rights.

This ruling will have a lot of side effects in the next 5-10 years that no one has thought of yet. And I don't think they will be good ones.
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The ruling was the correct one. The constitution doesn’t protect abortion. I agree with you in that I’m not my brothers keeper so I’m not going to tell them they can’t have an abortion. That’s now up to the state to decide. Ya democracy! If people believe that it should be a federal issue then there’s a way to amend the constitution and that should be their only recourse. If they can’t meet that threshold then try harder. Again, Ya Democracy.
 
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zeppelin128 said:
The broader issue with this ruling is Thomas's concurrent opinion. Contraception, interracial marriage (which he omitted from his opinion, surprise), same-sex marriage/relationships, basically anything that is based on right to privacy and the right to equality in the 9th and 14th are on the table now. There will be some draconian, discriminatory laws passed in certain states if those are overturned. And if this court is any indication, that will happen. Tennessee will be one of those states. I've lived here my entire life, and I believe you have as well if I recall correctly, and you know the TN state government will not take a libertarian approach to these issues.

This opened a can of worms far more impactful than just Roe.
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Just to be clear you believe the state of Tennessee would ban birth control if allowed?

And Thomas is correct in his opinion, but you should also note he’s the only one giving that opinion
 
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hog88 said:
No, the the abortion pill which is wholly different than the morning after pill must be dispensed by a person with prescription writing authority.
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I couldn't quite remember the law Lee signed a few months back. So morning after pill still readily available, but abortion pill requires a doctor/practitioner visit? I wonder if the abortion pill falls under the TN trigger ban.
 
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zeppelin128 said:
I think this gets back to the old argument of decentralized v. centralized government. I think local and state governments are best suited to handle most things, but I also think there are some things the Feds should be involved with.

I tend to be of the opinion that if you don't want to smoke weed, don't. You think abortion is a moral sin, don't have one. You think women shouldn't be allowed to use contraception, don't use it. You think gay marriage is wrong, don't have one. You don't like guns, don't buy one.

The problem is the states that will not take this stance. In situations like that, when a state is going to discriminate against a group of people and forcibly remove their rights, essentially making them second-class citizens, then I think the Fed needs to step in and ensure equal protection and rights.

This ruling will have a lot of side effects in the next 5-10 years that no one has thought of yet. And I don't think they will be good ones.
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What about the voters? Aren’t they responsible for electing local/state representation that will respect their values and abide by the constitution?
 
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