War in Ukraine

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volgr said:
Maybe Ukraine shouldnt take up positions in residential areas, as they have done throughout this conflict.
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Again, you expect them NOT to defend their cities? Or to be able to evacuate EVERY civilian while the Russians make huge gains on every front all the time constantly?
 
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AM64 said:
So you predicting the Russians will put up a border wall? We've been told those don't work. Where do you think the Viet Cong and N Vietnamese troops often went to regroup when they left the battlefield?
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As ethnic-Russians are watching the Ukraine shelling of their peers in Donetsk, as they have for the last 8 years in Donbas, I dont think those who are left, that are sympathetic to Ukraine, will have an easy time recruiting others for their insurgency.
 
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LouderVol said:
Again, you expect them NOT to defend their cities? Or to be able to evacuate EVERY civilian while the Russians make huge gains on every front all the time constantly?
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Maybe dont shoot your fleeing citizens would be a good place to start. It may be too much to expect the ba$tards not to take up military positions in residential areas.
 
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volgr said:
As ethnic-Russians are watching the Ukraine shelling of their peers in Donetsk, as they have for the last 8 years in Donbas, I dont think those who are left, that are sympathetic to Ukraine, will have an easy time recruiting others for their insurgency.
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Again, it's never been a one sided affair. War never is. Ukraine has shelled, and the Russians have shelled.
 
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volgr said:
Maybe dont shoot your fleeing citizens would be a good place to start. It may be too much to expect the ba$tards not to take up military positions in residential areas.
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Link to them shooting their own civilians?

And yeah it's too much to expect the Ukrainians to leave massive gaping holes in their defenses. Seriously where do you get your talking points, it's from no where with any sort of military background or history.

If they dont defend their cities you would be arguing that they are cowards for not trying to protect their citizens.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
How so?
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I’m at work. I don’t have enough time to list the piss poor management of the Russian Army during their invasion. So off the top of my head
How about the massive loss of life for starters? The loss of their own soldiers, the massive amount paratrooper losses they encountered, they’ve had multiple IL-76’s shot down during ops. The amount of armor they’ve lost. Their naval losses..The amount of Generals theyve lost.. it’s a laundry list of incompetence
 
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RDU VOL#14 said:
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I’m at work. I don’t have enough time to list the piss poor management of the Russian Army during their invasion. So off the top of my head
How about the massive loss of life for starters? Their own soldiers, the massive amount paratrooper losses they encountered,as they’ve had multiple IL-76’s shot down during ops. The amount of armor they lost. Their naval losses..The amount of Generals theyve lost.. it’s a laundry list of incompetence
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Yeah, but you know that's all going to change because Russians have got their chit together now ... and Russians are fighting to liberate their own their own kind now. Besides, according to the Russian stooges here, the Ukrainians have shot their wad, the shot locker is empty, and the allies are leaving them like a jilted lover.
 
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AM64 said:
Yeah, but you know that's all going to change because Russians have got their chit together now ... and Russians are fighting to liberate their own their own kind now. Besides, according to the Russian stooges here, the Ukrainians have shot their wad, the shot locker is empty, and the allies are leaving them like a jilted lover.
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Maybe we can go ahead and ask for our Javelins back.
 
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volgr said:
Russia bombing cities with entrenched Ukrainian military is different than Ukraine bombing a city that doesnt have entrenched Russian forces. There is no military objective in those strikes.
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Lol I was quite confident you would be able to rationalize your invading asshat homies scorched earth policy and you didn’t disappoint Larry! 🤡
 
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RDU VOL#14 said:
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I’m at work. I don’t have enough time to list the piss poor management of the Russian Army during their invasion. So off the top of my head
How about the massive loss of life for starters? The loss of their own soldiers, the massive amount paratrooper losses they encountered, they’ve had multiple IL-76’s shot down during ops. The amount of armor they’ve lost. Their naval losses..The amount of Generals theyve lost.. it’s a laundry list of incompetence
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Yeah, propaganda.
 
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AM64 said:
Yeah, but you know that's all going to change because Russians have got their chit together now ... and Russians are fighting to liberate their own their own kind now. Besides, according to the Russian stooges here, the Ukrainians have shot their wad, the shot locker is empty, and the allies are leaving them like a jilted lover.
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Now you are starting to understand what is really going on.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
How so?
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3 day special operation thats over 100+ days now..Retreated from Kyiv before Western weapons even showed up. Modernized for almost 2 decades just to have to bring out tanks built in the 60's because they have lost so many..all against a vastly outnumbered and outgunned Ukraine with just a smidge of Western training.

Yep..its a joke.
 
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RDU VOL#14 said:
So the Moskva Warship being sunk was propaganda?
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Nope. But in the overall scheme of things, what significance was that in the overall war?

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Nobody is afraid of fighting them in a conventional war.
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Then why are NATO countries like Germany having cold feet every since this thing started and for that matter, why hasn't the US Pentagon shown any ambition to put boots on the ground?
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Nope. But in the overall scheme of things, what significance was that in the overall war?


Then why are NATO countries like Germany having cold feet every since this thing started and for that matter, why hasn't the US Pentagon shown any ambition to put boots on the ground?
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Because they’re afraid a mentally and physically ill Putin will start throwing nukes around.

That’s literally the only reason Russia hasn’t been swept back out of Ukrainian, Georgian, and Moldovan territory.
 
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