War in Ukraine

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AM64 said:
The Poland thing you project hasn't happened. The borders between Russia and Ukraine were fixed after the USSR disbanded. We both know the problem there, in Crimea, and Sevastopol. Russia needed Black Sea access in two cases and Crimea was the Russian version of Florida or the Riviera - lots of Russians were posted in those places during the USSR's reign - they should have gone home and didn't. Remember Ukraine gave up nuclear weapons as part of a sovereignty agreement - simplified perhaps but basically the fact. I've made the point before that there's a lot of NY and NJ (and more recently Cuban) influence and investment in the S Florida area - doesn't change the fact that it still belongs to FL.
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They should have gone home? They were home. Crimea has been Russian longer than Florida has been American. Also, the only reason Crimea was Ukrainian in the first place was because Khrushchev ceded it to them in the 1950s when it was still the same country. Even after the dissolution of the USSR, the Russians still paid leasing fees to the Ukrainians out of courtesy.
 
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AM64 said:
Name a place - any place without corruption. It's a matter of degree. I guess you could say that the Islamic world is stable if you like post Stone Age theocracy with a little bit of infighting between mostly peaceful Islamic sects, or that Africa is mostly stable if tribal differences and warring warlords are acceptable practice, or that S America and C America are mostly stable if you agree with a different theocratic thought process that overlooks endemic corruption - or maybe just has some of it's own.
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If you remove the influence of The KSA from the Middle East, you wouldn't see the amount of turmoil and chaos. Remove some of the Israeli actions and you would see it improving further. The KSA and Israelis are the major disruptors in that region.

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If you think we're going to resolve all our issues and go to be at night in peace, harmony, and with the same dreams, you are living in some Utopian paradise - it ain't happening. I think there's another phrase somewhere that says democracy (even if we are a modified version) is messy.
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We haven't tried it since WWII, so how do you know? I would argue that this country would have been in a far better position if we would have minded our own business and spent the resources we threw into building our military into more domestic spending and developing our own economy to be more self-sufficient in a manner that Russia is showing right now.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
Why would the Saudis buy Russia oil to resell to whomever when they can just sell their own? Most likely China and India will be the primary consumers of Russian oil left.
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you need to add Pakistan in there. I trust them about as far as I can throw a 2,000 pound bull.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
If you remove the influence of The KSA from the Middle East, you wouldn't see the amount of turmoil and chaos. Remove some of the Israeli actions and you would see it improving further. The KSA and Israelis are the major disruptors in that region.


We haven't tried it since WWII, so how do you know? I would argue that this country would have been in a far better position if we would have minded our own business and spent the resources we threw into building our military into more domestic spending and developing our own economy to be more self-sufficient in a manner that Russia is showing right now.
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Have you ever asked yourself honestly what shape the rest of the world would be in if we had of?
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
They should have gone home? They were home. Crimea has been Russian longer than Florida has been American. Also, the only reason Crimea was Ukrainian in the first place was because Khrushchev ceded it to them in the 1950s when it was still the same country. Even after the dissolution of the USSR, the Russians still paid leasing fees to the Ukrainians out of courtesy.
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A little piece of history that the pro globalist crowd is unaware of.
 
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Well if he said it, it must be true...

Kremlin Makes Announcement Amid Rumors On Putin’s Health | ZeroHedge

Christopher Steele, the former UK spy and reputed author of the infamous and discredited “Steele dossier,” told Sky News earlier this month he believes Putin is “seriously ill” and claimed that factored into the Feb. 24 invasion of Ukraine.

Notably, Steele was hired by organizations on behalf of Hillary Clinton’s 2016 campaign to conduct opposition research against then-candidate Donald Trump, creating the dossier accusing Trump of having connections to Moscow. Most of the claims within Steele’s notes have been debunked by U.S. intelligence officials, although those allegations ultimately made it to corporate American news outlets such as MSNBC and the New York Times.
 
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volgr said:
A) Russia isnt doing that.
B) Yes, we are the bad guys who not only turned a blind eye to atrocities in Donbas for years, but continued funding and supporting the Ukrainian regime in charge of it. When you look at our foreign policy for the last few decades, Vietnam forward, we are the World's bully. We are the bad guys.
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Comrade, if you hate our country so much - you got options - pack up your Yugo and just GTFO.

Mother Russia will take you with open arms. Mexico would fit your budget nicely.

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